RE: Radical Smashes Nordschleife Record

RE: Radical Smashes Nordschleife Record

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peter pan

1,253 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Not at all bad for a company which started off making folding sun loungers!

356Speedster

2,293 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Certainly an impressive achievement and great to see Radical keeping the British end up! As someone who drove my Atom 3 to Le Mans this year, I can confirm that driving cars of this ilk on the road isn't as bad as folks often think.... assuming deccent weather!

I'm not sure that an Ultima has the kind downforce that it would need to chase down an SR8LM.. and as for a Caparo, from what I've seen / heard, it might struggle to cope with the 'Ring's surface.

Shame that you very rarely see Radicals out & about on the roads - it seems most of them end up on the track rather than being given numberplates & a tax disc.

williamp

19,264 posts

274 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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jontysafe said:
Incredible driving commitment from Michael Vergers to get that time, he must have balls of steel (or carbonfibre more likely). Yes it is a road car in the "stretchiest" sense of the term. Congratulations to Radical. This won`t be beaten by a more road orientated beast as they just don`t have the downforce/lightweight, its not just about power.
yes I agree. Well done and all that, but its not **really** a road car is it? yes its road legal, but in no way pracrtical for road use. We all know they started with a racing car, and made it road legal rather then take a road car and make it into a racing car.

Roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Mick Hyde doesn't change...! Remember him from Tuscans. Good bloke.

zakelwe

4,449 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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If you normally ride a touring bike cross europe I would imagine this would seem like a Maybach in comparison, so the tag it's not really up to travelling on roads is a bit misplaced.

I wonder what the Arial 500 could do, less downforce but more power isn't it???

Regards

Andy

VladD

7,859 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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williamp said:
jontysafe said:
Incredible driving commitment from Michael Vergers to get that time, he must have balls of steel (or carbonfibre more likely). Yes it is a road car in the "stretchiest" sense of the term. Congratulations to Radical. This won`t be beaten by a more road orientated beast as they just don`t have the downforce/lightweight, its not just about power.
yes I agree. Well done and all that, but its not **really** a road car is it? yes its road legal, but in no way pracrtical for road use. We all know they started with a racing car, and made it road legal rather then take a road car and make it into a racing car.
The thing is, definition of what is and isn't a road car is impossible outside of the current "is it legal on the road". Where do you draw the line? If you say an Elise is but a Radical isn't, then what happens when someone produces something in between. My only suggestion would be that they have to have produced/sold a certain number so that we don't get "specials" claiming the record. If it's road legal but only two were ever built, then it shouldn't count.

What's the fastest mass produced car round the ring? You'll have to determine your own interpretation of mass produced.

Edited by VladD on Thursday 20th August 13:36

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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williamp said:
jontysafe said:
Incredible driving commitment from Michael Vergers to get that time, he must have balls of steel (or carbonfibre more likely). Yes it is a road car in the "stretchiest" sense of the term. Congratulations to Radical. This won`t be beaten by a more road orientated beast as they just don`t have the downforce/lightweight, its not just about power.
yes I agree. Well done and all that, but its not **really** a road car is it? yes its road legal, but in no way pracrtical for road use. We all know they started with a racing car, and made it road legal rather then take a road car and make it into a racing car.
They don't (in that statement at least) say that it is a road car. Its a track car - but one you can actually drive to the track, do your thing, then drive home in. So there is a degree of practicality there (as opposed to taking it on a trailer etc.)

"It is a genuine production sports car."


Edited by tenohfive on Thursday 20th August 13:40

356Speedster

2,293 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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zakelwe said:
I wonder what the Arial 500 could do, less downforce but more power isn't it???
You've just said it, not the same level of downforce, plus the Atom is an aerodynamic brick. Extra power, I don't think is enough, unfortunately.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Good work chaps and chapettes!

Hardly a practical road car though! wink

Antj

1,049 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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shut up all the neg heads, putting it down. its a tremendous achievement,

still got another 37 seconds to go to match old Bellofs race car time of 6m11s, but to drive the car there before doing the record is great, kind of reminds of Kia who drove two Cee'ds from spain last year competed in the Nurburgring 24hr's then drove them back after.

Steve Gunnis

2,929 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Excellent stuff, back with the Brits!

6m 47s, bloody hell!

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Looks like a race car to me. BMW are out of F1 next year, stick some mud guards and a plate on and see if Nick Heidfeld can go quicker in his race car.

HFEVO2

72 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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I wonder how fast the Radical could have gone round with either Jörg Müller or Sabine Schmitz at the wheel ?

No disrespect to Michael Vergers but those two with their intimate knowledge of the track would surely have been able to go quite a bit quicker ?

That would surely have put the record beyond the reach of any more "normal" road car.

shotokan

157 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Fantastic time, excellent to see a small, niche firm reminding the world that light weight, good aerodymanics, sorted chassis AND power to weight means more than outright grunt

'not practical'? obviously not...it's enough that technically the car is road legal. this is about fastest lap not luggage capacity/comfort!

Massive well done to all at Radical & good to see you flying the flag for the UK!

tastyturbo

26 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
Id have been more impressed to learn about the drive to and from the circuit the poor guy must have been in bits, its a long drive.
That's what I was thinking.... Although not as long as drive as when we done it in May and will be doing it in Sept again... from Edinburgh... Via the tunnel

Edited by tastyturbo on Thursday 20th August 14:08

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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I dont get some people. You drive it to the ring, smash the record, then people bemoan that its not a real road car. What are people taking that makes them so silly? Ketamin? Its as much a road car as a R500/Atom. oh and it just took a massive dump on all the ring pretenders. Bravo boys. Bravo

Edited by GingerWizard on Thursday 20th August 14:13

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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smile Excellent result smile

It got me thinking how far that is off Bellof's outright record of 6m11s. If you do the maths, then it's equivalent to just over 3 secs a lap around, for sake of comparison, Brands Indy (1.2 miles). I'm not sure that slicks would do that would they?

dkennedyvxt

242 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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SpunkyM said:
Yeh, whatever. I got a 6min 35sec last month in my 335D with tuning box - but don't want to brag about it.
Remapped 335D's don't count as they are too quick to be time accurately......

I saw a remapped 335D at the lights the other day with the Millenium Falcon and chewy was left nursing his pride after.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Will the Dutch and ze Germans recognise this? They seem to have their fingers in their ears when anyone mentions Radical...

Menguin

3,764 posts

222 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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GC8 said:
Will the Dutch and ze Germans recognise this? They seem to have their fingers in their ears when anyone mentions Radical...
Indeed, the Gumbperbt is not exactly roomy when it comes to suitcases either, is it?