RE: Porsche Panamera - First UK Drive
Discussion
ZesPak said:
Fittster said:
Can anyone think of an example of a powerful 4 seater that hasn't depreciated like a stone? Fine if the company is paying but not something I would want to buy from my own pocket (not that my pocket is anywhere near deep enough).
LM002450hp V12
A1GOY said:
ZesPak said:
Fittster said:
Can anyone think of an example of a powerful 4 seater that hasn't depreciated like a stone? Fine if the company is paying but not something I would want to buy from my own pocket (not that my pocket is anywhere near deep enough).
LM002450hp V12
They have halved in value!
pritt stick said:
A1GOY said:
ZesPak said:
Fittster said:
Can anyone think of an example of a powerful 4 seater that hasn't depreciated like a stone? Fine if the company is paying but not something I would want to buy from my own pocket (not that my pocket is anywhere near deep enough).
LM002450hp V12
They have halved in value!
5 USA said:
Garlick said:
PH are driving one of these to the Frankfurt show in a week or two. I must admit that I'm looking forward to it as that cabin looks like a nice place to be.
Gotta love it when the biggest attraction of a new car from Porsche is "that cabin looks like a nice place to be"....
I'm looking forward to the driving experience too (ahem)
If I had a spare £100k and needed a 4-door with practicality on offer here, this would definetly be the car I would order. I think it looks fantastic and as always, will look even better in the metal. I think it oozes class and is very different from anything else that tries to offer the same. The Jag XF is £50k less for a reason and can't be compared to the Panamera at all.
Completely agree with previous poster on here. Pictures really don't do this car justice. They have demo in Canary Wharf in mid blue with cream leather - it's stunning!!
I really wasn't convinced, especially given the f'ugly Cayenne - but this is fantastic in the metal. Can't wait to see it in black with black leather.
I really wasn't convinced, especially given the f'ugly Cayenne - but this is fantastic in the metal. Can't wait to see it in black with black leather.
pritt stick said:
Do those buttons either side not remind you of a Nokia mobile....?
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Such a shame the car is so pug ugly. I put a deposit down for one and quickly withdrew it when I saw the first images.
Edited by G4HKS on Thursday 3rd September 21:47
ZesPak said:
Fittster said:
Can anyone think of an example of a powerful 4 seater that hasn't depreciated like a stone? Fine if the company is paying but not something I would want to buy from my own pocket (not that my pocket is anywhere near deep enough).
LM002450hp V12
noneedtolift said:
It really is a totally different story when you see one in the flesh - in the pictures I saw beforehand, I didn't like it at all. Actually standing next to it is a totally different story, even the rear looks cool in the flesh.
Starting to really like it. The driving expieriance is purely Porsche, too. I think it's going to sell quite well, although the leasing deals they do (at least in Germany) are shocking compared to the rest of the Porsche range which means it could probably do better given the current climate.
Saw one in the flesh at the Nurburgring a few weeks ago, in a sand colour... F-ing ugly.Starting to really like it. The driving expieriance is purely Porsche, too. I think it's going to sell quite well, although the leasing deals they do (at least in Germany) are shocking compared to the rest of the Porsche range which means it could probably do better given the current climate.
Seems the Germans, the Saudi's and Asians will like this. Ok then...
I rather trusted Mr. Towler's PH (ex-chief road tester at Autocar) review more...
"Gearshifts quicken, suspensions firm up and soon it’s possible to push this limo hard – harder than seems logically possible. Naturally, there’s understeer initially, but with the roads slick following a rain shower, it’s surprisingly easy to feel the rear moving around through the tighter stuff. The trouble is, you really find yourself worrying about taking up so much road space, and the width is constantly on your mind, with regular sharp intakes of breath when a truck comes the other way.
Admirable then, but engaging? Perhaps not. With 395bhp hauling 1,860kg it’s rapid, but there’s the feeling that it’s more noise than stupendous acceleration – worrying when our test car costs nearly £90,000 with extras and with all those 500bhp+ sports saloons existing at up to thirty grand less. The PDK gearbox is generally impressive, but it occasionally gets caught out by rapid shifting near the red line; the gap between second and third gear seems a bit of a hollow and the user interface is still annoying (and back to front). And while you can’t really fault the way the major controls ultimately work, they seem to lack that special quality you’d associate with a Porsche. The steering is okay, but (particularly on those cars equipped with Servotronic steering - which we only found out about after the drive) it’s not especially communicative, while the brakes (carbon on this 4S) grab very quickly and then have quite a long pedal travel. That’s not very Porsche-like....
But at any rate, however impressive it is, at some point you’ve got to park and climb out of it, at which point you re-enter the debate about how it looks, and that – coupled with the way it drives – has so far left me cold. That lack of passion, with that badge on the nose, is as surprising as it is disappointing."
I rather trusted Mr. Towler's PH (ex-chief road tester at Autocar) review more...
"Gearshifts quicken, suspensions firm up and soon it’s possible to push this limo hard – harder than seems logically possible. Naturally, there’s understeer initially, but with the roads slick following a rain shower, it’s surprisingly easy to feel the rear moving around through the tighter stuff. The trouble is, you really find yourself worrying about taking up so much road space, and the width is constantly on your mind, with regular sharp intakes of breath when a truck comes the other way.
Admirable then, but engaging? Perhaps not. With 395bhp hauling 1,860kg it’s rapid, but there’s the feeling that it’s more noise than stupendous acceleration – worrying when our test car costs nearly £90,000 with extras and with all those 500bhp+ sports saloons existing at up to thirty grand less. The PDK gearbox is generally impressive, but it occasionally gets caught out by rapid shifting near the red line; the gap between second and third gear seems a bit of a hollow and the user interface is still annoying (and back to front). And while you can’t really fault the way the major controls ultimately work, they seem to lack that special quality you’d associate with a Porsche. The steering is okay, but (particularly on those cars equipped with Servotronic steering - which we only found out about after the drive) it’s not especially communicative, while the brakes (carbon on this 4S) grab very quickly and then have quite a long pedal travel. That’s not very Porsche-like....
But at any rate, however impressive it is, at some point you’ve got to park and climb out of it, at which point you re-enter the debate about how it looks, and that – coupled with the way it drives – has so far left me cold. That lack of passion, with that badge on the nose, is as surprising as it is disappointing."
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