RE: Subaru's Small Coupe Revealed

RE: Subaru's Small Coupe Revealed

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Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Subaru, being the smaller company, should put in twice as much effort considering this model could save them. Their tardiness means a production ready model will be around in 2012. Surely Toyotas R&D department have far more on their plates than Subaru's, so what's with the delay?

Design a freakin shell please.


Unless....Subaru want their version to handle significantly better....hmmm....

Bourj

209 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Small scooby revealed and named @ www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzkLSUsWuhg

Sorry!

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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elster said:
GravelBen said:
elster said:
Who to believe...

Announcement by Toyota, or "leaked" drawings to Autocar.

This is a tough one.

The manufacturer, or the magazine that must of printed 15 million made up sketches.
I don't see anything too contradictory about the two reports confused They've been clear all along that the Toyota and Subaru versions will look different.
Only the shells.

You think one car will be ready for the Tokyo Motor Show and the other wont even be a clay model?
Agreed re release dates/design process etc - I thought you were suggesting the Subaru can't look like the pictures because the Toyota doesn't. I'm not suggesting at all that it will look like those sketches mind you, this is Autocar we're talking about.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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GravelBen said:
elster said:
GravelBen said:
elster said:
Who to believe...

Announcement by Toyota, or "leaked" drawings to Autocar.

This is a tough one.

The manufacturer, or the magazine that must of printed 15 million made up sketches.
I don't see anything too contradictory about the two reports confused They've been clear all along that the Toyota and Subaru versions will look different.
Only the shells.

You think one car will be ready for the Tokyo Motor Show and the other wont even be a clay model?
Agreed re release dates/design process etc - I thought you were suggesting the Subaru can't look like the pictures because the Toyota doesn't. I'm not suggesting at all that it will look like those sketches mind you, this is Autocar we're talking about.
No I was stating they are actually a bit further ahead than Autocar suggests.

Johnpidge

588 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Andy T said:
Nice to see that Subaru employ the "school children using crayons" design philosophy.
Er thats exactly what I thought when I looked at the pics!

Lets hope its better in the metal!

Belfast Boy

855 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Not being funny , but I applied for internship with alot of Car makers for an internship and got turned away, Subaru being one of them!?

This kinda fooks me off a bit, I 've done better DRUNK!

RESULT>



SleeperCell

5,591 posts

243 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Snoggledog said:
Note to Subaru.

The following examples are of nice looking 2 door coupes.




The following is an example of how it should not look.




Take note Subaru.
EFA

Snoggledog

7,073 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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SleeperCell said:
Snoggledog said:
Note to Subaru.

The following is an example of how it should not look.




Take note Subaru.
EFA
frown

I take it you're not a fan of the Nuvola?

dapprman

2,327 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Hellbound said:
Subaru, being the smaller company, should put in twice as much effort considering this model could save them. Their tardiness means a production ready model will be around in 2012. Surely Toyotas R&D department have far more on their plates than Subaru's, so what's with the delay?

Design a freakin shell please.


Unless....Subaru want their version to handle significantly better....hmmm....
Sad to say it may well be too late. Subaru were in a certain amount of trouble before the financial crash and it is conceivably possible that they can no longer afford to create the show model, but are rather on a shoe string until they can either find funding or finally go under.

Still the car industry does have some unlikely survivors - Mitsubishi (the automotive company, not the whole zaibatsu it split off from in the 1990s) should have folded a good few years ago and still show no sign of going under.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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dapprman said:
Hellbound said:
Subaru, being the smaller company, should put in twice as much effort considering this model could save them. Their tardiness means a production ready model will be around in 2012. Surely Toyotas R&D department have far more on their plates than Subaru's, so what's with the delay?

Design a freakin shell please.


Unless....Subaru want their version to handle significantly better....hmmm....
Sad to say it may well be too late. Subaru were in a certain amount of trouble before the financial crash and it is conceivably possible that they can no longer afford to create the show model, but are rather on a shoe string until they can either find funding or finally go under.

Still the car industry does have some unlikely survivors - Mitsubishi (the automotive company, not the whole zaibatsu it split off from in the 1990s) should have folded a good few years ago and still show no sign of going under.
A lot of that has to do with Japaneese culture and their unwillingness to foreclose on businesses.

Riyazc

1,068 posts

243 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Now that Toyota and Subaru seem to be resurrecting the small jap coupe segment, can someone knock on Hondas door and ask them to make another Integra Type R?

A proper 'R' not the wishy washy crap with an R badge stuck on it that we get in a Civic format.


JonRB

74,602 posts

273 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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I want a new Honda CRX, but with 4WD and properly serious performance. A bit like the Prodrive P2 in fact. hehe

Sean 2000

105 posts

184 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Bourj said:
Small scooby revealed and named @ www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzkLSUsWuhg

Sorry!
Cock!

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Speaking as someone with an Industrial Design degree, I call BS on those pics being representative of what it will look like.

They're either:

a) a selection out of several hundred other concept doodles - they're too rough to be anything else. no self respecting designer would produce a concept sketch that has wheels that are SO out of perspective it looks like a 13 year old has drawn it.

Or

b) a 13 year old drew them and someone has been hoaxed.

If they are proper Scooby design team drawings, they really are fked as a company.

Checkmate

631 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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rhinochopig said:
b) a 13 year old drew them and someone has been hoaxed.
Thats what it looks like to me. Those really are awful drawings.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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JonRB said:
I want a new Honda CRX, but with 4WD and properly serious performance. A bit like the Prodrive P2 in fact. hehe
I think we'd all be happy if Honda decided to create an entirely new sub-brand called Type R with the sole purpose of manufacturing reproductions of the CRX VT and Integra DC2, adding safety features and perhaps trimming a little more weight.

R34

13,986 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Bourj said:
Small scooby revealed and named @ www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzkLSUsWuhg

Sorry!
That brings back so many memories...


DrRazzle

91 posts

194 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Hellbound said:
Subaru, being the smaller company, should put in twice as much effort considering this model could save them. Their tardiness means a production ready model will be around in 2012. Surely Toyotas R&D department have far more on their plates than Subaru's, so what's with the delay?

Design a freakin shell please.


Unless....Subaru want their version to handle significantly better....hmmm....
I would have thought that being beaten into production by a Toyota coupe would be impossible

angus54

344 posts

199 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Don't be fooled by this 'leak' business one bit.

Its pure automotive PR - dressed up as a leak to make more outlets print it / post it online as if its some sort of naughty coup and therefore illicit and exciting.

Which generally it is not.

Snore...


NDT

1,753 posts

264 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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JonRB said:
I wish Prodrive had made the P2.



(It had Subaru underpinnings, BTW)

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 8th October 12:34
(It was totally unmakeable, BTW)