Zonda Replica

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GSP

1,965 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Oh dear god... Clearly some effort has gone into it so why not design you own body work.

Failing that contact the person this thread is about for panels.

nicktruman

93 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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GSP said:
Oh dear god... Clearly some effort has gone into it so why not design you own body work.

Failing that contact the person this thread is about for panels.
Not really sure God can help, but my skills with designing stuff are hopeless!

But I think you are missing my point.

What I am trying to say is that turning a mr2 into anything other than an Mr2 is wierd, but actually building something to mimic another car from the bottom up is a challenge.

I have been in contact with him for a while, the only problem is that he is in Canada, my kitcar is in the UK and I now work in Bahrain frown

Dr_Gonzo

959 posts

226 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Why is it a "very worthy and honourable" project?

Did you have any problems getting it SVA'd and insured for road use?

nicktruman

93 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Dr_Gonzo said:
Why is it a "very worthy and honourable" project?

Did you have any problems getting it SVA'd and insured for road use?
Hi, Dunno, I was trying to make them sympathetic of my cause LOL!

The car is still way from being finished but I see no reason why it shouldn't pass one day. It has abs, power steering but no aircon smile everything is there, just needs a body. Top Gear want to see it when its done, that should be a blast..

Utterpiffle

831 posts

181 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12

nicktruman

93 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!

Edited by nicktruman on Monday 28th June 12:20

RetroCosworth

7,211 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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What happened to the original photo of this replica? The link on the first page leads to nothing.

What's wrong with the Jaguar XJS anyway?

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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nicktruman said:
Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!
OMG! yikes

nicktruman

93 posts

205 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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mat205125 said:
nicktruman said:
Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!
OMG! yikes
I love this forum biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Transmitter Man said:
I like Envy's work.

Have you seen his recreated F40 with 355 power - nice from the photo's I've seen.

Phil
Any links to the F40 recreation please?

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

196 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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The whole chassis looks to have been welded just as well as those wishbones...

I like the custom turbo exhaust manifold though:



At least the bodywork has been planned out properly on CAD:



Never gonna pass an IVA without being rebuilt from the ground up.

Edited by mr_fibuli on Monday 28th June 13:32

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Tim,

Their F40 link is not currently working but you can drop them a line via the other picture links: http://www.enzodesign.co.uk/holding

They're based in Northampton.

They working together with http://www.simpsonmotorsport.co.uk/ who I believe supply the chassis.

New F40LM bodies are coming out of another company in Wales only the new panels are superior in quality to the original albeit in fibreglass.

Same as;



Phil

nicktruman

93 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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mr_fibuli said:
The whole chassis looks to have been welded just as well as those wishbones...

I like the custom turbo exhaust manifold though:



At least the bodywork has been planned out properly on CAD:



Never gonna pass an IVA without being rebuilt from the ground up.

Edited by mr_fibuli on Monday 28th June 13:32
I love you experts biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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mr_fibuli said:
At least the bodywork has been planned out properly on CAD:

Computer Aided Disaster.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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nicktruman said:
mat205125 said:
nicktruman said:
Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!
OMG! yikes
I love this forum biggrin
Nick, I hate to have a go at your work, but that welding is downright dangerous. There does not appear to be any penetration of the welds and the joints have not been prepared properly. Any decent load and these are going to snap, the results of which you can imagine if you are travelling at speed

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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nicktruman said:
mr_fibuli said:
The whole chassis looks to have been welded just as well as those wishbones...

I like the custom turbo exhaust manifold though:



At least the bodywork has been planned out properly on CAD:



Never gonna pass an IVA without being rebuilt from the ground up.
I love you experts biggrin
I don't think that a formal automotive engineering design PHD is required to have an educated guess as to the likely opinion of the the inspecting SVA "expert"

Dave200

3,983 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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MSTRBKR said:
mr_fibuli said:
At least the bodywork has been planned out properly on CAD:

Computer Aided Disaster.
Funniest thing I've read on here for a while.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Streetrod said:
nicktruman said:
mat205125 said:
nicktruman said:
Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!
OMG! yikes
I love this forum biggrin
Nick, I hate to have a go at your work, but that welding is downright dangerous. There does not appear to be any penetration of the welds and the joints have not been prepared properly. Any decent load and these are going to snap, the results of which you can imagine if you are travelling at speed
Certainly from that pic you can't tell much about the penetration of the weld. just because there is an excess of welding material there doesn't mean the weld is underpenetrated. You'd have to see the other side of the weld surely, or at least be looking at it while he's doing it.

I like nick, its the ultimate inverted snobbery thread.

Besides his welding is not his weak point, panel beating, now you might have a point smile.

freecar

4,249 posts

188 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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julian64 said:
Streetrod said:
nicktruman said:
mat205125 said:
nicktruman said:
Utterpiffle said:
Mr Truman, whilst I admire your efforts and envy your free time, this welding is shocking!

Please tell me this is just a mock up?!

Edited by Utterpiffle on Monday 28th June 12:12
ummm yes, I had to make loads of these before I got it right smile the 1st few kind of broke frown Its been together for a while now and so far so good. The 1st wish bones snapped when i took it out for a spin, fortunately the car hasn't far to drop smile

I should add that i used a gasless mig for a while so it looks a great deal worse than when its all scrubbed down..

I used a locost kitcar jig in the end and all was good!
OMG! yikes
I love this forum biggrin
Nick, I hate to have a go at your work, but that welding is downright dangerous. There does not appear to be any penetration of the welds and the joints have not been prepared properly. Any decent load and these are going to snap, the results of which you can imagine if you are travelling at speed
Certainly from that pic you can't tell much about the penetration of the weld. just because there is an excess of welding material there doesn't mean the weld is underpenetrated. You'd have to see the other side of the weld surely, or at least be looking at it while he's doing it.

I like nick, its the ultimate inverted snobbery thread.

Besides his welding is not his weak point, panel beating, now you might have a point smile.
I disagree, although the welds are covered by material and hence the penetration is hidden I think that they can be condemned now.

He mentioned about using a gasless welder for the job and it appears he has. Now, unless he has ground away all the previous (perfectly penetrated) weld and thought "this looks a little weedy I'll weld over it again to make it look a bit stronger" The the welds are definitely ste.

I would wager that the gentleman in question knows nothig about welding technology and has taken the most obvious route to DIY, learn gasless mig. Sadly only an experienced welder (or someone who is quite the natural) can get the best out of a gasless machine, they have far too many compromises to make a good learner machine.

Frankly gasless has a use, outside welding where shielding gas would blow away. That is all.

I would recommend a night course in welding, there you will learn what a good weld looks like and why and how to acheive it.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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I went on a welding course run by the local BOC supplier. The guy in charge used to walk around with a peening hammer smaking the welds.

Any weld he smacked that didn't fall of he called a good weld. Never was very impressed. I would however urge the op to try a hammer on his welds at the very least.

Once I started TIG welding I hated going back to MIG. TIG seems to give you all the time in the world to be pretty, but MIG is much less forgiving because the spool is either running or it isn't. Always feel hurried with MIG. Never tried gassless though.

And if you want pure enjoyment from a welder. TIG aluminium. Its an absolute pleasure.

I'd have been making all those wheel supports in boxed aluminium with lovely edge welds.
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