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FraserLFA said:
Beefmeister said:
stigmundfreud said:
Is this school? Can you copyright a cars appearance?
Yes.Yes you can.
And they do. All of them.
This car is clearly a copyright breach, and as such I have emailed this link to Pagani themselves.
You just can't do this. It's against the law, plain and simple.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
The only difference between this and the Zonda replica is that the Zonda replica is perhaps more genuine to the original idea of the car.
I don't see people reporting the Sagaris for putting an engine in thats not supposed to be there just several pats on the back.
On the assumption that we are on a driving enthusiast website I think both would be stunning achievements and I would very much like to test drive both of them.
I find it funny that one guy gets so upset about a kit car with a kit car engine infringing someones rights, and suggestively wouldn't care if the OP got a real Zonda and junked its engine for an LS cos it'd still be an original with no infringement.
Madness.
PATENTCopyright, patent, blah, blah, blah, who gives a f
k what word is used? It's a nasty rip-off of something a talented and creative designer poured their heart and soul into, it's the work of an ape to copy it and pass off as a Zonda. I usually side with the small guy when some faceless corporation tries to hammer them down but in this case I hope Pagani smash this "enterprise" to bits.
k what word is used? It's a nasty rip-off of something a talented and creative designer poured their heart and soul into, it's the work of an ape to copy it and pass off as a Zonda. I usually side with the small guy when some faceless corporation tries to hammer them down but in this case I hope Pagani smash this "enterprise" to bits. As a general rule, replicas irritate me. I do admire all of the time and effort gone into the manufacturing of the moulds but I do not understand why you copied a Zonda. Why didn't you make your own designed kit car/car and compete with a company like Ultima.
The amount of replicas that have done the same thing is truly outstanding though. As this is the case this is not a personal thing about the replica of the Zonda and is about replicas in general I will not belittle the time and effort and money you have put in.
Whats wrong with a bit of originality?!
Things that irritate me beyond belief:
ferrari replicas
porsche replicas
lambo replicas
Things that irritate me:
stratos replicas
Cobra replicas
Le mans replicas
WHATS THE POINT!?
The amount of replicas that have done the same thing is truly outstanding though. As this is the case this is not a personal thing about the replica of the Zonda and is about replicas in general I will not belittle the time and effort and money you have put in.
Whats wrong with a bit of originality?!
Things that irritate me beyond belief:
ferrari replicas
porsche replicas
lambo replicas
Things that irritate me:
stratos replicas
Cobra replicas
Le mans replicas
WHATS THE POINT!?
julian64 said:
FraserLFA said:
Beefmeister said:
stigmundfreud said:
Is this school? Can you copyright a cars appearance?
Yes.Yes you can.
And they do. All of them.
This car is clearly a copyright breach, and as such I have emailed this link to Pagani themselves.
You just can't do this. It's against the law, plain and simple.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
The only difference between this and the Zonda replica is that the Zonda replica is perhaps more genuine to the original idea of the car.
I don't see people reporting the Sagaris for putting an engine in thats not supposed to be there just several pats on the back.
On the assumption that we are on a driving enthusiast website I think both would be stunning achievements and I would very much like to test drive both of them.
I find it funny that one guy gets so upset about a kit car with a kit car engine infringing someones rights, and suggestively wouldn't care if the OP got a real Zonda and junked its engine for an LS cos it'd still be an original with no infringement.
Madness.
Really you don't see the difference?
As a car and driving enthusiast i like to see original ideas, and the companys that make these original ideas NOT getting screwed by someone cheapening the product with these crap copys. Taking a TVR and dropping a different engine into it is so far removed from this topic i'm still struggling to see how you think they are the same thing.
Some cars are exciting because they are exotic and rare, would you not be annoyed as a zonda owner if every chav around the country started dropping a zonda bodykit onto thier fiestas?
Isn't the forum giving this lad a bit much credibility? He's not cloned a Zonda, but made part of a polystyrene statue of one. It's not a mould, otherwise why make windows, handles, scoops built in to the buck.
The quality of the text overlay is also very iffy, is it not more likely that "Envy designs" is a student, and teh "client" is the university of east anglia, or something?
The quality of the text overlay is also very iffy, is it not more likely that "Envy designs" is a student, and teh "client" is the university of east anglia, or something?
Graham E said:
Isn't the forum giving this lad a bit much credibility? He's not cloned a Zonda, but made part of a polystyrene statue of one. It's not a mould, otherwise why make windows, handles, scoops built in to the buck.
The quality of the text overlay is also very iffy, is it not more likely that "Envy designs" is a student, and teh "client" is the university of east anglia, or something?
Well it certainly isn't Coventry, that I am sure of. It would have been shot down before it hit the paper.The quality of the text overlay is also very iffy, is it not more likely that "Envy designs" is a student, and teh "client" is the university of east anglia, or something?
Beefmeister said:
stigmundfreud said:
Is this school? Can you copyright a cars appearance?
Yes.Yes you can.
And they do. All of them.
This car is clearly a copyright breach, and as such I have emailed this link to Pagani themselves.
You just can't do this. It's against the law, plain and simple.
RJDM3 said:
Beefmeister said:
stigmundfreud said:
Is this school? Can you copyright a cars appearance?
Yes.Yes you can.
And they do. All of them.
This car is clearly a copyright breach, and as such I have emailed this link to Pagani themselves.
You just can't do this. It's against the law, plain and simple.
Your not alone. Emailed them earlier today also. Working in car design and manufacturing myself this kind of blatant copying really gets my goat
slomax said:
Things that irritate me:
stratos replicas
Cobra replicas
Le mans replicas
WHATS THE POINT!?
I don't mind replicas like that (what about all the Lotus 7 replicas?) as they are replicas of cars that are no longer in production and have not been for some time. I'll never see a real Stratos on the road, but I've seen a replica and it cheered me up stratos replicas
Cobra replicas
Le mans replicas
WHATS THE POINT!?
stigmundfreud said:
Stig takes picture
picture ends on internet
national press use picture
stig still out of pocket
you could send them an invoice... And it would get paid, if you water mark them and they remove them you can really take them to town.picture ends on internet
national press use picture
stig still out of pocket
Some people on 28dayslater have made some serious money after papers have used their images.
koolchris99 said:
i think its brilliant, cant wait to see it finished.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
1. Make it a couple of centimentres longer or shorter.
2. Make it a few millimetres wider or narrower.
3. Make it a few millimetres taller or lower.
4. Make the wheelbase a few millimetres longer or shorter.
5. Don't put an OEM exhaust on it.
6. Don't put an OEM gearknob in it.
7. Don't put OEM seats in it.
And that would make it ok? What utter b
ks. Papa Hotel said:
koolchris99 said:
i think its brilliant, cant wait to see it finished.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
1. Make it a couple of centimentres longer or shorter.
2. Make it a few millimetres wider or narrower.
3. Make it a few millimetres taller or lower.
4. Make the wheelbase a few millimetres longer or shorter.
5. Don't put an OEM exhaust on it.
6. Don't put an OEM gearknob in it.
7. Don't put OEM seats in it.
And that would make it ok? What utter b
ks. koolchris99 said:
i think its brilliant, cant wait to see it finished.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
That is such a load of si doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
t. The judge decides if a design infringes on the specific clauses of each patent as each one is unique to the product it belongs to.As this car is a replica and therefore clearly an attempt to produce a exact copy, it would easily infringe a patent that protects the car's exterior looks.
Look at this iPhone 3GS patent granted yesterday:http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/apple-granted-design-patent-for-iphone-3g-3gs/
It is worded so that any device that looks "substantially similar" to it is in breach. I'm not saying that's what Pagani have secured because we don't know, but the wording of patents is what's important.
Edited by MSTRBKR on Wednesday 5th May 00:54
MSTRBKR said:
koolchris99 said:
i think its brilliant, cant wait to see it finished.
i doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
That is such a load of si doubt hell get done for breach, as long as there are 7 things different its ok legally, and im sure its not a 100% replica.
t. The judge decides if a design infringes on the specific clauses of each patent as each one is unique to the product it belongs to.As this car is a replica and therefore clearly an attempt to produce a exact copy, it would easily infringe a patent that protects the car's exterior looks.
Look at this iPhone 3GS patent granted yesterday:http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/apple-granted-design-patent-for-iphone-3g-3gs/
It is worded so that any device that looks "substantially similar" to it is in breach. I'm not saying that's what Pagani have secured because we don't know, but the wording of patents is what's important.
Edited by MSTRBKR on Wednesday 5th May 00:54
its how primark work, its how you see copies of designer furniture,
i think the substantially similar can be argued that 7 differences makes it substantially different.
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