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Red Devil said:
Yet the ebay ad included this video of the car which he admits is not road legal.
It hasn't been submitted for an IVA test and, if and when it is, may very well fail it.
Oh dear...
I can foresee a furious chav returning to the vendors house to beat him with a failed wishbone It hasn't been submitted for an IVA test and, if and when it is, may very well fail it.
Oh dear...
This thread just keeps on giving. I want to see a video of this doing 0-60 in 2.9 seconds as per the Ebay ad description. I'd also pay good money to see it doing the claimed 187 mph too. In fact I'll be happy to see it doing a mere 87 mph. I'm sure I'm not the only member that wants to see this!
Nick,
I nod my head in respect to you. Most of the comments on here are from people that couldn't even change a spark plug themselves.
You've hand buit a chassis, engineered drive train engine etc. It's a mean engineering feat that you've taken onboard. I really admire this... if you look back at the early journeys of Lotus, Formula racing etc engineers etc, their journeys will be very similar to yours, yes I know from first hand experience.
The comments are aimed at the cosmetic looks, something even todays smaller car manufacturers can't get right. You have an engineering skill, and I hope you continue with your hobby as it's seems to be something of joy for you.
I'm a true petrol head, and I see another fellow petrol head tinkering in his garage, this is unfortunately a rare sight these days as people seem to be happy just bolting on aftermarket bits to their cars. They think this is building cars?
Keep it up mate.
I nod my head in respect to you. Most of the comments on here are from people that couldn't even change a spark plug themselves.
You've hand buit a chassis, engineered drive train engine etc. It's a mean engineering feat that you've taken onboard. I really admire this... if you look back at the early journeys of Lotus, Formula racing etc engineers etc, their journeys will be very similar to yours, yes I know from first hand experience.
The comments are aimed at the cosmetic looks, something even todays smaller car manufacturers can't get right. You have an engineering skill, and I hope you continue with your hobby as it's seems to be something of joy for you.
I'm a true petrol head, and I see another fellow petrol head tinkering in his garage, this is unfortunately a rare sight these days as people seem to be happy just bolting on aftermarket bits to their cars. They think this is building cars?
Keep it up mate.
I wonder, is there a chinese fir or something that can knock out fibreglass body kits for things like the Zonda etc? The reason I say it is because you can get cheap full fairing kits for motorcycles. They usually need a little bit of tinkering with to get things like mounting holes in the right place, but are generaly alright.
johnnnnnnyy said:
Nick,
You've hand buit a chassis, engineered drive train engine etc. It's a mean engineering feat that you've taken onboard. I really admire this...
Keep it up mate.
A chassis that is untested at any speed. Anyone with a wrench can make a frame to sit some plastic piping and an engine on and call it a "chassis". He hasn't engineered anything, what he's done is stick a few components onto a frame from other cars that loosely resembles, in his words, "an Ultima GTR chassis".You've hand buit a chassis, engineered drive train engine etc. It's a mean engineering feat that you've taken onboard. I really admire this...
Keep it up mate.
An engine from an Audi that from the video sounds rather unwell and has blue smoke kicking out of it. Is it any wonder that it hasn't run up to any speed and the turbos haven't been used?
Drivetrain?! It's a bunch of various components welded together that, again going from the video, is barely usable!
Theoretically I could build a car, or do heart surgery . . . probably. Thing is, much like this guy I haven't got the skills or know how to pull it off. I and he certainly hasn't got any form of attention to detail proven by this amazingly poor excuse of a replica / kit-car / shed.
Am I wrong?
nicktruman on page 12 of this thread said:
the car drives and handles really really well, its also very quick and stops on a sixpence.
nicktruman in his eBay advert said:
the car has never been driven faster than a few miles per hour!
There are thick doses of lying and/or delusion creeping into this farce now.Nick, if you're still reading, I strongly advise you to take the earlier comments about the safety of your design on board. Aesthetics aside, it seems there's a very real chance of structural failure, and if by some miracle it manages to get through IVA this could have catastrophic consequences for you or worse, a new owner or innocent bystander.
If anyone fancies seeing how one-off panel work can come out, check out Andy's rather wonderful Noble.
So the winning bidder on Ebay has gone a wall, why does this not surprise me. The problem with cars like this is that they build a life of their own on the internet. It would not take a lot for any potentially interested party to get wind of the storm circulating and back away.
I read Nick's build thread on Ferrarichat and he was warned that his build methodology was setting him up for a fall but he ploughed on regardless. If he had stuck to the tried and tested methods the results would have been infinitely better. I hope he learns from this experience and does not loose heart. His next car could be a blinder
I read Nick's build thread on Ferrarichat and he was warned that his build methodology was setting him up for a fall but he ploughed on regardless. If he had stuck to the tried and tested methods the results would have been infinitely better. I hope he learns from this experience and does not loose heart. His next car could be a blinder
shakotan said:
Oh god, I didn't know there was a video!
Watching that thing rattle, squeak, lurch and cough its way (ILLEGALLY) up the road just compounds the horror!
Video Description by the owner:Watching that thing rattle, squeak, lurch and cough its way (ILLEGALLY) up the road just compounds the horror!
"Another short video of the Zonda, all cleaned up and shiny.. ready for ebay! This is the first time the car has run since Nov 2014, sounds sweet.."
The tyres are filthy and white. But they are clean to him.
Car runs like a tractor. Actually, tractors sound very smooth running in comparison. Sounds sweet to him.
The guy is delusional and a chronic tale-teller. I knew someone like him once. Living in la-la land. Calling black, white, and defensive if you even dared to point out the obvious. He had a 944 Lux, around 84 vintage, yet he claimed it was a 1990 (IIRC) Turbo even though you can very easily tell them apart, and there was no turbo under the bonnet.
Back to the Zonda owner. I guess it's not his fault that he is the way he is. But the car is!
Edited by 996TT02 on Friday 16th January 22:12
nicktruman, I think you are a star.
I always wanted to build a Triumph TR5 with a new shell and modern engine and suspension.
This will never happen.
There is some doubt that Red Bull Racing will want to use your chassis and suspension design, probably because of your Ferrari advice. I know not.
Your homage design will not concern Pagani for obvious reasons, but you went out and built something you wanted to build.
A true petrolhead and I am jealous.
My father was asked to play a violin that a prisoner had built in a local prison. He came home, looked sad, and when asked by mother what was wrong, he said "I have spent most of my life working to look after you and the children. This man murdered his wife, went to jail and built a bad violin and now is going to build a cello. I always wanted to do that but have never had the time. Where did I go wrong?"
Maybe I should build the new tech TR5 but I probably won't.
nicktruman did.
I always wanted to build a Triumph TR5 with a new shell and modern engine and suspension.
This will never happen.
There is some doubt that Red Bull Racing will want to use your chassis and suspension design, probably because of your Ferrari advice. I know not.
Your homage design will not concern Pagani for obvious reasons, but you went out and built something you wanted to build.
A true petrolhead and I am jealous.
My father was asked to play a violin that a prisoner had built in a local prison. He came home, looked sad, and when asked by mother what was wrong, he said "I have spent most of my life working to look after you and the children. This man murdered his wife, went to jail and built a bad violin and now is going to build a cello. I always wanted to do that but have never had the time. Where did I go wrong?"
Maybe I should build the new tech TR5 but I probably won't.
nicktruman did.
That's a very good and thought-provoking analogy, FBW. From reading through this thread, I think there has been a tone throughout that people have a lot of respect for someone who actually attempts to convert their dreams into reality, especially on such a large project. The problems only arise when it seems the end product could be dangerous, and yet the creator is completely unable to accept any advice, suggestions or criticism - no matter what the expertise of the person offering it.
PH is full of people with amazing skill sets, and most are really willing to help people where they can. We'd all love to see a project like this come off, and you only have to look at some of the phenomenal build threads in here to see that. But when you take the time to try to impart some of your knowledge to someone who could really put it to good use, and they chuck it back at you calling you an "armchair expert" or a "troll" as if nobody could possibly ever do better than their (decidedly not) wonderful creation, you get pretty hacked off pretty quickly.
PH is full of people with amazing skill sets, and most are really willing to help people where they can. We'd all love to see a project like this come off, and you only have to look at some of the phenomenal build threads in here to see that. But when you take the time to try to impart some of your knowledge to someone who could really put it to good use, and they chuck it back at you calling you an "armchair expert" or a "troll" as if nobody could possibly ever do better than their (decidedly not) wonderful creation, you get pretty hacked off pretty quickly.
996TT02 said:
Video Description by the owner:
"Another short video of the Zonda, all cleaned up and shiny.. ready for ebay! This is the first time the car has run since Nov 2014, sounds sweet.."
The tyres are filthy and white. But they are clean to him.
Car runs like a tractor. Actually, tractors sound very smooth running in comparison. Sounds sweet to him.
The guy is delusional and a chronic tale-teller. I knew someone like him once. Living in la-la land. Calling black, white, and defensive if you even dared to point out the obvious. He had a 944 Lux, around 84 vintage, yet he claimed it was a 1990 (IIRC) Turbo even though you can very easily tell them apart, and there was no turbo under the bonnet.
Back to the Zonda owner. I guess it's not his fault that he is the way he is. But the car is!
I've just noticed that the first suggested video to watch on the right hand side is entitled "Top 10 Worst Car Replicas Part 2"."Another short video of the Zonda, all cleaned up and shiny.. ready for ebay! This is the first time the car has run since Nov 2014, sounds sweet.."
The tyres are filthy and white. But they are clean to him.
Car runs like a tractor. Actually, tractors sound very smooth running in comparison. Sounds sweet to him.
The guy is delusional and a chronic tale-teller. I knew someone like him once. Living in la-la land. Calling black, white, and defensive if you even dared to point out the obvious. He had a 944 Lux, around 84 vintage, yet he claimed it was a 1990 (IIRC) Turbo even though you can very easily tell them apart, and there was no turbo under the bonnet.
Back to the Zonda owner. I guess it's not his fault that he is the way he is. But the car is!
Edited by 996TT02 on Friday 16th January 22:12
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