RE: Driven: Tesla Roadster
Discussion
Beefmeister said:
Ah, I may have forgotten to mention in the article that the Tesla costs a cool £92,000!!!!!
Hmmm, Tesla or Elise R and £60,000 of fuel...
Or Exige S2 for £15k, A LOT of fuel and a car that you can sell on. No one will want electric cars secondhand because buyers will know the technology is redundant pretty much after being put in the car.Hmmm, Tesla or Elise R and £60,000 of fuel...
I see a green future, where cars depreciate like a flaming brick. But it's OK, because these are powered by electricity, derived from burning Western based fossil fuels (oh let's ignore that fact), and not that nasty highly efficient climate killing oil.
Tesla's UK distributor has been in touch to re-iterate the point that the Ecurie25 loan car is an early version, and quite different to their latest model which has a new interior and various technical changes. They've offered us a chance to review the latest car, so we're looking forward to having a go in it.
(And we did get the weight wrong initially - it's now been corrected in the article to 1238kgs. Sorry!)
(And we did get the weight wrong initially - it's now been corrected in the article to 1238kgs. Sorry!)
[quote]There is a huge amount of retardation when you come off the accelerator, which takes a lot of getting used to in town - it's about equal to pressing the brake pedal about 30% down in traffic.
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And no brake lights... Sounds worse than dangerous, more like "illegal"
30% brake on the motorway with no brake lights?
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And no brake lights... Sounds worse than dangerous, more like "illegal"
30% brake on the motorway with no brake lights?
Anubis said:
> The CEO of Aston Martin is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.
You can't have hydrogen until you have electric. Hydrogen cars will be plug-in electric cars with a fuel cell range extender... if they ever come to market.This is the car's evolutionary tree as I see it:
1) Horse & cart
2) Internal combustion
3) Hybrid IC
4) Electric cars, many with IC range extenders
5) Electric cars with alt-fuel range extenders, possibly bio-fuel, methanol and least-likely of all, H2.
As yet, we have only just taken the first steps towards step 3.
The Wookie said:
Anubis said:
The CEO of Aston Marting is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.
Real vehicle technology is being developed for both Hydrogen and Electric Vehicles. Which will prevail will depend on technological breakthroughs as currently neither EV or H2 tech is viable to completely compete with regular vehicles. At the moment electric tech is winning, with the added bonus that it doesn't require complete abandonment of Fossil Fuel electricity to improve well to wheel efficiency.H2 has a lot of problems as an energy storage medium
Does anyone know how long they have been in the UK for? I took this photo on the 29th of September, I think it must have been one of the first over here.
It will be interesting to see just how quickly elecctric powered vehicles can develop, battery technologies are forever moving forward. I really hope petrol powered cars will be around for a lot longer, I can't imagine an electric car with much 'soul'.
Mr Gear said:
Anubis said:
> The CEO of Aston Martin is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.
You can't have hydrogen until you have electric. Hydrogen cars will be plug-in electric cars with a fuel cell range extender... if they ever come to market.This is the car's evolutionary tree as I see it:
1) Horse & cart
2) Internal combustion
3) Hybrid IC
4) Electric cars, many with IC range extenders
5) Electric cars with alt-fuel range extenders, possibly bio-fuel, methanol and least-likely of all, H2.
As yet, we have only just taken the first steps towards step 3.
spot on
Gridl0k][quote said:
There is a huge amount of retardation when you come off the accelerator, which takes a lot of getting used to in town - it's about equal to pressing the brake pedal about 30% down in traffic.
And no brake lights... Sounds worse than dangerous, more like "illegal"30% brake on the motorway with no brake lights?
Gridl0k said:
..and as I keep hammering on about, the quicker we can get people out of Corsas and Picassos and into some sort of duracell bunny car, the more petrol there'll be left for those of us who choose to drive V8s
That is the most sensible comment made in here today!!Surely that is whole point of the Tesla Roadster.
Making that technology exciting enough to inspire it's breakthrough to the mainstream. It has to to happen otherwise you can say goodbye to performance cars as we know them.
No, when you come off the accelerator the brake lights do come on.
I did a couple of checks in the rear view when there was a car with big headlights behind me, adn sure enough they do come on, at least a bit. When you press the brake pedal, there appeared to be 'more' light, if you understand me?
I think there must be a 2-stage system.
I did a couple of checks in the rear view when there was a car with big headlights behind me, adn sure enough they do come on, at least a bit. When you press the brake pedal, there appeared to be 'more' light, if you understand me?
I think there must be a 2-stage system.
CMB123 said:
The Wookie said:
Anubis said:
The CEO of Aston Marting is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.
Real vehicle technology is being developed for both Hydrogen and Electric Vehicles. Which will prevail will depend on technological breakthroughs as currently neither EV or H2 tech is viable to completely compete with regular vehicles. At the moment electric tech is winning, with the added bonus that it doesn't require complete abandonment of Fossil Fuel electricity to improve well to wheel efficiency.H2 has a lot of problems as an energy storage medium
Naked ladies drive all technological advances...
I dont see why this car is getting a hammering:
a) its better- by miles desipte the price difference- to a G-Whizz.
b) As mentioned earlier, the faster these become everyones A-B cars, the more fun people can have with weekend petrol cars.
Do I need a 280bhp Petrol rwd etc car for the small drive to the gym, or to the supermarket? NO. Its just a means to an end.
Any none fuel car will suffice.
The Sunday blast, or the Friday night hoon- the fossil fuel burner will do nicely. The drive itself is what matters, not where I am going (unless its on route to Brands, Croft, The Ring, etc)
a) its better- by miles desipte the price difference- to a G-Whizz.
b) As mentioned earlier, the faster these become everyones A-B cars, the more fun people can have with weekend petrol cars.
Do I need a 280bhp Petrol rwd etc car for the small drive to the gym, or to the supermarket? NO. Its just a means to an end.
Any none fuel car will suffice.
The Sunday blast, or the Friday night hoon- the fossil fuel burner will do nicely. The drive itself is what matters, not where I am going (unless its on route to Brands, Croft, The Ring, etc)
Ralf Rockefeller said:
I dont see why this car is getting a hammering:
a) its better- by miles desipte the price difference- to a G-Whizz.
b) As mentioned earlier, the faster these become everyones A-B cars, the more fun people can have with weekend petrol cars.
Do I need a 280bhp Petrol rwd etc car for the small drive to the gym, or to the supermarket? NO. Its just a means to an end.
Any none fuel car will suffice.
The Sunday blast, or the Friday night hoon- the fossil fuel burner will do nicely. The drive itself is what matters, not where I am going (unless its on route to Brands, Croft, The Ring, etc)
My point is that it should really be in a practical body. Say take a Fiesta and add the Tesla's tech.a) its better- by miles desipte the price difference- to a G-Whizz.
b) As mentioned earlier, the faster these become everyones A-B cars, the more fun people can have with weekend petrol cars.
Do I need a 280bhp Petrol rwd etc car for the small drive to the gym, or to the supermarket? NO. Its just a means to an end.
Any none fuel car will suffice.
The Sunday blast, or the Friday night hoon- the fossil fuel burner will do nicely. The drive itself is what matters, not where I am going (unless its on route to Brands, Croft, The Ring, etc)
Then you'd have a good looking city car, with 120 mile range, fantastic performance and all the smug grins you can muster.
My issue is that the two different parts of the car (electric / sports car) don't seem to gel very well...
I am interested if they've improved the car, genuinely.
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