RE: BMW 5-Series: Live PistonHeads Reveal

RE: BMW 5-Series: Live PistonHeads Reveal

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fathomfive

9,950 posts

191 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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carl_w said:
Digga said:
Looks superb IMHO a country mile better than the latest E-class.

There is one possible problem - size.

It might be my eyes and the perspective on this picture (see below), but the new 5 looks bigger (broader) again than the outgoing model. Casrs have been putting on size and weight since the eighties now and I really don't think it's the right way to go. Aside from the environmental issue (that I'd prefer to gloss over), weight always eventually shows up in handling and the size of cars is already an issue for people regularly needing to wedge their motor into the UK's miserly parking spaces.

The existing E60 isn't exactly a small car either -- in some parking spaces you can have both ends overhanging the front and rear of the space. But what that picture also shows is how clean the lines of all of the new model's predecessors are, and how fussy the new one is. Not only does it have all those creases and strakes down the sides, but across the bonnet too. For sure, the E60 is a bit slab-sided, but I prefer it. In fact, we bought it because we didn't like the E90/92 when it came to replacing our E46 coupe. Now the 5-series looks like the E90...
It looks like someone has parked a slightly bigger 3-series next to some nicely designed cars.

I wasn't keen on the previous gen 5-series when launched but I admit it's grown on me over the years.

daveco

4,140 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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To be honest the E60 looked woeful in SE spec and this car does too. With bigger alloys and a more aggressive body it should look the dogs danglies.

MogulBoy

2,937 posts

224 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I'm a big fan of this, paticularly of what they have done to the bonnet surface. Looking forward to seeing one in the real world as to me, the current 7 series is equally well executed and an impressive sight on the road.

CHIEF

2,270 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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This will look a lot lot better in the flesh and they will sell loads.

Love the look if a little understated.

A bit more sober than the previous generation but this wont stop ity selling. The design of the last 5 series was slated when it first came out. It took years for it to grow on people.


Puk

125 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Never been a fan of the old 5 series but I think of Helmut Kohl when I see this new one : it's fat and bland.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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did anyone else hear the collective cheers that went up in Stuttgart, Ingolstadt and Coventry this morning... hehe

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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daveco said:
To be honest the E60 looked woeful in SE spec
That's a good point, most BMWs look a bit lackluster in non-sport spec (E39, E46 etc) - be interesting to see what the Sport model will be like, with more aggressive bumpers, sills etc

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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MiniMan64 said:
I strongly dislike the tendancy in car design these days to use a "family" face, it's so incredibly bland.
1996 Audi A3, A4, A6 and A8? Look at them head on and you'll need to think hard to tell which is which.

Ditto 1990 E30 3 Series, E32 7 Series and E34 5 Series.

A family face is nothing new. Infact, its very old!

KevJ

27 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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As a design exercise I think it has failed, especially considering the ever growing eco-culture.

As a statement of relative wealth it has (unfortunately) succeeded, as a result I can only think that BMW will hit whatever bloated sales targets it has set itself...

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Appart from the size, i dont think it is radically different in any way to the out going model.

meet the new car..... Same as the old car...

Unimpressed.

Dinoboy

2,509 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I like it.Did'nt really like the new 7 when I first saw it in photos but when I saw one in the metal actually really liked it.Think this will look great on the road.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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KevJ said:
As a statement of relative wealth it has (unfortunately) succeeded...
Which pit of envy did you fish that one out from? Is an upper-mainstream saloon really so offensive, especially when many will be the basic model?

As for the design it looks to my eye like a BMW, although happily less "Bangled" than the last 5-series which was IMO horrid.

LuS1fer

41,154 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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john_p said:
daveco said:
To be honest the E60 looked woeful in SE spec
That's a good point, most BMWs look a bit lackluster in non-sport spec (E39, E46 etc) - be interesting to see what the Sport model will be like, with more aggressive bumpers, sills etc
Not sure I've ever noticed a difference to the degree it mattered. You either like these designs or you don't and no fannying up of the basic design helps.

pSyCoSiS

3,606 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I think this looks very good.

Fresh, and in line with the new 3er and 7er.

And whatever people say about it, there has never been a bad 5 Series, they always have top reviews and it will always be the leader in it's class.

It will be the best to drive, no doubt.

The styling may not be to everyone's taste, but come on, nor was the E60 - but look how successful that has become.

Much better-looking that the E60, and I reckon it will look 10 time better in the flesh.

The M5 will be a belter, although they will have resorted to forced induction!

And yes, in my honest, humble opinion, the E34 is till the best looking 5, and one of the best looking BMWs ever made. Still looks muscular, handsome and classy.

pSyCoSiS

3,606 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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nsmith1180 said:
Appart from the size, i dont think it is radically different in any way to the out going model.

meet the new car..... Same as the old car...

Unimpressed.
How is it anything like the old car?!

Looks nothing like it !

daveco

4,140 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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LuS1fer said:
john_p said:
daveco said:
To be honest the E60 looked woeful in SE spec
That's a good point, most BMWs look a bit lackluster in non-sport spec (E39, E46 etc) - be interesting to see what the Sport model will be like, with more aggressive bumpers, sills etc
Not sure I've ever noticed a difference to the degree it mattered. You either like these designs or you don't and no fannying up of the basic design helps.
I disagree. The facelifted E46 coupe with the sport pack is probably the finest looking non-M bimmer to come out of Munich. The SE spec had a strange front bumper a weird strip of black plastic running through the centre of the rear one and looked disproportionate.

The BMW shape responds well to more aggressive styling.

pSyCoSiS

3,606 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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daveco said:
LuS1fer said:
john_p said:
daveco said:
To be honest the E60 looked woeful in SE spec
That's a good point, most BMWs look a bit lackluster in non-sport spec (E39, E46 etc) - be interesting to see what the Sport model will be like, with more aggressive bumpers, sills etc
Not sure I've ever noticed a difference to the degree it mattered. You either like these designs or you don't and no fannying up of the basic design helps.
I disagree. The facelifted E46 coupe with the sport pack is probably the finest looking non-M bimmer to come out of Munich. The SE spec had a strange front bumper a weird strip of black plastic running through the centre of the rear one and looked disproportionate.

The BMW shape responds well to more aggressive styling.
Agree - most standard spec BMWs (especially the more modern ones) don't look brilliant. M-Sport version brighten them up and make them more aggressive.

However, look at the E30, E32 and E34, they looked good even in basic guise!

margerison

736 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I preferred the front lights of the E60 and the back of this new model looks horrifically generic. Any pics of an estate (which was the only good looking incarnation of the previous gen. imo)?

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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As I predicted six or soyears ago, there are people saying they don't like the new and would stick with the E60, just as then people were saying they would stick with the E39. It would be highly amusing to find that these were the same people.

At least one person complained that it looks like a mix between the 3 and the 7. So, just like every previous generation of 5 Series then.

As for relative size, I'm wondering whether this isn't an example of what Father Ted explained to Dougal about the relative size of the toy cow and the cow in the field.


va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Zod said:
As I predicted six or soyears ago, there are people saying they don't like the new and would stick with the E60, just as then people were saying they would stick with the E39. It would be highly amusing to find that these were the same people.
Here is the original E60 unveiled thread hehehttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...