RE: Ruf Unveils Electric Cayenne
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We all love the IC engine, but let's face it something has to change. This may not be the alternative but its always going to be a 'work in progress'. I personally can't wait for diesel killing linear torque to hit the showrooms. Batteries will get lighter. However it still isn't the solution.
t).Agent Orange said:
125 mile range. Ok for a little city car but an SUV? Then again most SUVs spend their time between the house, school and gym so maybe enough.
Spot on........... pointless except for green yuppies - not for the real world! Oh and all the electricity comes from burning fosil fuels in the uk pretty much and don't even mention the lithium batteries!?!?!?!I wonder about these rechargeable systems - you buy a new cordless drill and it's brilliant, plenty of torque and lasts for ever. 2 years later and it hardly holds enough charge to do up 2 screws in a Mecchano set. The same happens with mobile phones, new ones last for weeks, old ones need charging every day.
Seems as cars will easily last 20+ years and 300k+ miles if you look after them, will be seeing G Whizzes hitting the scrap heaps in huge numbers in a couple of years time because the batteries are nackered? I'm getting the feeling electric cars are becoming disposable items filled with some pretty nasty chemicals you can't just dump ... or have they sorted the problem of degrading battery performance yet?
... but then I suppose G Whizz drivers are London'ites who think a car over 3 years old is past it rather than only just broken in and starting to loosen up.
Seems as cars will easily last 20+ years and 300k+ miles if you look after them, will be seeing G Whizzes hitting the scrap heaps in huge numbers in a couple of years time because the batteries are nackered? I'm getting the feeling electric cars are becoming disposable items filled with some pretty nasty chemicals you can't just dump ... or have they sorted the problem of degrading battery performance yet?
... but then I suppose G Whizz drivers are London'ites who think a car over 3 years old is past it rather than only just broken in and starting to loosen up.
^^ I'd disagree. I've said for years there is no such thing as sustainable with this many people on the earth. Finally good to see Attenborough making the first sensible stab (apart from the Chinese and the one child policy) at highlighting the problem. The answer isn't hybrids, biodiesel, remewables, carbon footprints. There's simply too many of us, all the other animals on the planet naturally regulate their numbers apart from the humans, we keep thinking ways round our problems and we keep on breeding like rabbits
I'm sure they've managed it better than phones that only last a year or so but I'd take manufacturer's bumph of 80% capacity after 10 years with a huge sack of salt. They know full well you won't go back and hold them to it so they'll claim whatever they like
kambites said:
I think these cars will have very carefully managed recharge cycles which will extend the battery life well beyond a relatively simple device like a phone. I'd be surprised if they can't maintain 80% of their charge after ten years of use.
We'll see in 10-20 years time years but I don't imagine there will be a thriving classic car market of them ... or it will be a static display at leastI'm sure they've managed it better than phones that only last a year or so but I'd take manufacturer's bumph of 80% capacity after 10 years with a huge sack of salt. They know full well you won't go back and hold them to it so they'll claim whatever they like
Edited by Dibby on Thursday 10th December 16:09
Dibby said:
^^ I'd disagree. I've said for years there is no such thing as sustainable with this many people on the earth. Finally good to see Attenborough making the first sensible stab (apart from the Chinese and the one child policy) at highlighting the problem. The answer isn't hybrids, biodiesel, remewables, carbon footprints. There's simply too many of us, all the other animals on the planet naturally regulate their numbers apart from the humans, we keep thinking ways round our problems and we keep on breeding like rabbits
I'm sure they've managed it better than phones that only last a year or so but I'd take manufacturer's bumph of 80% capacity after 10 years with a huge sack of salt. They know full well you won't go back and hold them to it so they'll claim whatever they like
I'm 100% certain that people said the same of the reliability of the internal combustion engine 100 years ago. kambites said:
I think these cars will have very carefully managed recharge cycles which will extend the battery life well beyond a relatively simple device like a phone. I'd be surprised if they can't maintain 80% of their charge after ten years of use.
We'll see in 10-20 years time years but I don't imagine there will be a thriving classic car market of them ... or it will be a static display at leastI'm sure they've managed it better than phones that only last a year or so but I'd take manufacturer's bumph of 80% capacity after 10 years with a huge sack of salt. They know full well you won't go back and hold them to it so they'll claim whatever they like
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