No more Falken FK452's

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Riggernut

1,681 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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jon- said:
AB said:
Why is the 452 so cheap?
Because, as a rule, they're not as good as polished all round compared to something like a Michelin Pilot Sport or Goodyear Eagle F1
I'd disagree on the Eagle F1 but agree with you on the Mich. Had all three. Currently have FK452.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Expensive tyres - very good and long life too.

Cheap tyres - avoid like the plague!

Less expensive tyres (Falken, Kumho) - nearly as good as expensive tyres but tyre life can be significantly shorter and less easy to find in stock if you need an urgent replacement. Cost effective solution, especially if you factor in the occasional scrapping of a new tyre due to "puncture too near the side-wall".

Red Devil

13,069 posts

209 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Falken is a brand of Sumitotmo Rubber Industries which formed a joint venture with Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company in the late 1990s to manufacture tires for each other's markets. So, although it is a separate company, Falken is effectively Goodyear's mid price performance tyre in the UK.

FK452s are excellent value, but I prefer Eagle F1s. Not much in it in the dry but the superior wet weather performance of the Goodyears is more than worth it. The price difference is a lot less than the cost of visiting the scenery!

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Red Devil said:
Falken is a brand of Sumitotmo Rubber Industries which formed a joint venture with Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company in the late 1990s to manufacture tires for each other's markets. So, although it is a separate company, Falken is effectively Goodyear's mid price performance tyre in the UK.

FK452s are excellent value, but I prefer Eagle F1s. Not much in it in the dry but the superior wet weather performance of the Goodyears is more than worth it. The price difference is a lot less than the cost of visiting the scenery!
I agree on your point regarding falken vs goodyear. As I said earlier, the premium brands will be better ALL ROUND, so while the FK452 might equal the Eagle F1 in the dry and wet initially, the performance might (and does in the case of the fk452) seem to drop off around mid life.

On a side note, this is from an email from Goodyear late last year: "Falken is no longer a Goodyear Dunlop brand. Sumitomo (who still own 20% of Goodyear Dunlop Europe) have, along with their subsidiary Ohtsu Tire, have taken full ownership of the brand."

Olivera

7,168 posts

240 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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jon- said:
Red Devil said:
Falken is a brand of Sumitotmo Rubber Industries which formed a joint venture with Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company in the late 1990s to manufacture tires for each other's markets. So, although it is a separate company, Falken is effectively Goodyear's mid price performance tyre in the UK.

FK452s are excellent value, but I prefer Eagle F1s. Not much in it in the dry but the superior wet weather performance of the Goodyears is more than worth it. The price difference is a lot less than the cost of visiting the scenery!
I agree on your point regarding falken vs goodyear. As I said earlier, the premium brands will be better ALL ROUND, so while the FK452 might equal the Eagle F1 in the dry and wet initially, the performance might (and does in the case of the fk452) seem to drop off around mid life.

On a side note, this is from an email from Goodyear late last year: "Falken is no longer a Goodyear Dunlop brand. Sumitomo (who still own 20% of Goodyear Dunlop Europe) have, along with their subsidiary Ohtsu Tire, have taken full ownership of the brand."
Very interesting point Jon. I've had loads of Eagle F1 GSD3s on my car, now replaced with Falken 452s. The Eagle F1 and FK452 are very similar in terms of overall performance, but I have definately noticed that as the FK452s wear past say 50% of tread their performance in the wet noticeably drops off vs the Eagle F1. I did a track day in the wet in the Eagle F1s when they only had about 2 mm left of tread and they still performed amazingly well! My 452s now have about the same amount of tread and their performance is definately inferior when worn vs Eagle F1s.

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Falken 452s are very common in Aust.

However, they are a victim of their own success and there is now little price difference between them and Bridgestone Adrenalins etc

Looked at getting them, but it was cheaper for me to import 4 F1 asyms from the US than to buy Falkens here.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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AB said:
Why is the 452 so cheap? I can't get over it.

They're excellent in the wet, have transformed the car over the very worn mid range tyres that were on it before obviously but I think they're better than the GSD3's on the 8 also.
I agree they are very good. I suspect they wont last as long, but who cares at this price! smile