cable tie snow chains?

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Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

214 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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RichB said:
rocksteadyeddie said:
Roo said:
Thinking about importing a load of this to sell next winter.

Does it work though? Looks like it could be one of those great ideas in theory that is utterly useless in practice.
On the tin it says you spray it on in bands around the tyre and lasts about 100 miles for emergency use...
Is it spray mount adhesive? laugh

Scootersp

3,078 posts

187 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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I heard this works well with something like washing line cable and when you tie it off you leave the knot in the centre of the tread so it acts like a 'stud' ..........not the sort of thing that's going to survive the 20 mile commute from start to finish but may just stop you getting stuck at the bottom of the steep hill somewhere along the way.

i remember

3,296 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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Wouldn't the cables ties just wreck your tyres? confused

grimfandango

372 posts

184 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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LFO said:
wolf1 said:
LFO said:
On a slightly more serious note, Tie wraps would fall apart on a tyre in seconds. Snow or not. They didn't hold up my exhaust very well
That's because exhausts get very hot and plastic has a tendency to melt when in contact with a hot surface.
They were a replacement for missing rubbers, I wouldn't wrap something made of plastic around an exhaust!
Acctually, you can use them to hold exhaust wrap on. I did when I ran out of metal ties, and their still there now! biggrin

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

193 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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rocksteadyeddie said:
Snoop Bagg said:
Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.
yikes

Presumably you are referring to one of those high-tech pig-iron bikes with the solid stone wheels?
With rider!

rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

226 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Snoop Bagg said:
rocksteadyeddie said:
Snoop Bagg said:
Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.
yikes

Presumably you are referring to one of those high-tech pig-iron bikes with the solid stone wheels?
With rider!
Nothing funnier than a fat bloke on a bike hehe

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

177 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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rocksteadyeddie said:
Snoop Bagg said:
rocksteadyeddie said:
Snoop Bagg said:
Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.
yikes

Presumably you are referring to one of those high-tech pig-iron bikes with the solid stone wheels?
With rider!
Nothing funnier than a fat bloke on a bike hehe
Oi, as a fat bd I object to that statement.

rob.e

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2,861 posts

277 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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rob.e said:
luckily the worst of the weather seems to be over now - pretty frustrated that I got stuck twice - both times managed to get the car moving again, shovel and old capet worked a treat but its still a pain to have to resort to this..

i know a proper solution would be winter tyres, snow sock or chains BUT a thought struck me this morning

If i got some long cable ties and looped these around the tyre (through the spokes) this would surely give me a lot more grip on the snow, cost pennies, I can fit them easily/quickly and I don't have to worry about driving on roads that have been cleared (what's the worst that could happen, they wear and fall off?)

Anyone done this? Is there something obvious I'm missing ie it won't work or could damage the whee/tyre?
Replying to my own thread from the last snow we had.. got a chance to try out the mega-sized cable ties on a mate's jag today, stuck in our office car park.

Bad news i'm afraid - they just ping off in seconds frown

Good job I bought some snow socks just in case wink

Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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rob.e said:
Replying to my own thread from the last snow we had.. got a chance to try out the mega-sized cable ties on a mate's jag today, stuck in our office car park.

Bad news i'm afraid - they just ping off in seconds frown
confused Really? I'd have expected them to last many, many miles. wink

Superchickenn

687 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Crusoe said:
A short length of rope crossed over the tyre and round the spokes is easier and faster to put on.
This is why i now carry rope.... havent had the chance to test it yet tho...

y2blade

56,029 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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DaveVXR said:
Do some testing and let us know how long they last smile
don't forget to video it for us too smile

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Superchickenn said:
Crusoe said:
A short length of rope crossed over the tyre and round the spokes is easier and faster to put on.
This is why i now carry rope.... havent had the chance to test it yet tho...
Snow chains will be faster still smile
Though I managed to break one at the weekend because it wasn't on tight enough, like a numpty.

mackie1

8,153 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Not DIY or amazingly cheap (cheaper than chains though):

http://www.autosock.co.uk/

I've gone some in the boot, not had to use them yet though.

y2blade

56,029 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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mackie1 said:
Not DIY or amazingly cheap (cheaper than chains though):

http://www.autosock.co.uk/

I've gone some in the boot, not had to use them yet though.
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

+1 for snowsocks/autosocks yes

Edited by y2blade on Thursday 2nd December 10:31

MOB1

49 posts

161 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Me and one of the lads tried this yesterday at work. He has a c class like me but he has the standard 16" wheels so looping them through the spokes wouldn't work as the calliper guard was snapping the cable ties. So he took it into the workshop and linked them up to go around the tyres and it worked a treat he could drive around the whole car park.

I have 18" wheels so could loop across the tyres and it didn't work at all they just shredded as soon as I moved off. Seemed like a good idea and we were trying anything so we could go home but not worth the hassle to be honest. Wish I put snow tyres on my other set of wheels but its a bit of a gamble in Ireland as we might only get a sprinkle of snow but it would have paid off this yr haha

spaximus

4,229 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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The biggest problem at the moment is no matter what you do, the other dheads don't. You may have a 4x4 equipped with the finest chains, but you are still stuk in the same cue because of the lorries and the cars stuck in front.

But back on thread, cable ties would maybe work for a second, if it was threaded through abit of hose it would work to get moving.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Ive been in touch with this guy but sadly they are not available yet....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XNrV2gTUOM

lance1a

1,337 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I tried using nylon rope on my old E class Merc last year, and that too got tangled up in the dust/backing plate, actually damaged it quite badly. I would have thought that with larger than spec alloys it might work or where there is clearance between the inner alloy rim and the calliper or backing plate.

Bugeyeandy

10,761 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Roo said:
Thinking about importing a load of this to sell next winter.

I've got some in my glovebox, no idea if it works 'cause i've not encountered any deep enough snow yet. It's like spray adhesive and apparently wears off really quickly once you're back on tarmac again.

http://www.sprayontyrechain.co.uk/

Rubin215

2,084 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Can't be bothered quoting all the posts I want to reply to, BUT...


Cable ties as spring compressors: no, you're better using mole-grips... whistle

Cable ties as make do snow chains: yes, it works in an emergency. I have even used them on an HGV to get it out of rim-deep mud. yes

String on motorcycle tyres: my cousin used to do this on his V50 when he was farming in Aberdeenshire, using "tow" (rhymes with now). Baler twine used for holding hay/straw bales together; it is the strongest stuff known to man for its weight (next to carbon fibre...). hehe