New Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TDI CR - should I buy one?

[MrLou]

CaptainSlow said:

MrLou said:

I make it that a 2.0T vRS at a list of £19904 could be had for £14420. (£19904*0.825) - £2000 = £14420

The prices are good for sure.

One point to note in your calculation above, assuming you're trying to get the net amount, is that it should be £19,904/1.175 (not £19,904*0.825).

Thanks for that, I was having a stoopid moment.

[MrLou]

CaptainSlow said:

It must have killed the used market

Those were the exact words the sales guy said to me last weekend.

If I was thinking of buying I'd want to know if this is a short-term offer, or does it reflect the long-term pricing for Octavia?

Edited by MrLou on Wednesday 17th March 10:52

[james_tigerwoods]

Republik said:

CaptainSlow said:

DJFish said:

My initial enquiry to a local dealer resulted in this offer:
"based on a Octavia Estate vRS 2.0 FSI (Petrol) with metallic paint and rear parking sensors...
The on the road price should be £20660 but with the VAT saving the price is bought down to £17702.88."
But that's without haggling.

There's a DSG TDi for sale just up the road from me, I'm tempted to go and have a look...........

It must have killed the used market, I wouldn't have been too pleased if I had bought before the offers were introduced.

The attractive offers and the finance deals make this used example look a bit expensive:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1559613.htm

Edited by CaptainSlow on Wednesday 17th March 10:27

To quote the last line of the advert.

"I paid nearly £21K for this car in September 09 so somebody will grab a bargain...Am looking for £16,250ovno"

He obviously didn't shop around.

I wonder what the "very special after market extra" is...

ETA - Probably just a remap?

Edited by james_tigerwoods on Wednesday 17th March 12:01

[DJFish]

james_tigerwoods said:

Republik said:

CaptainSlow said:

DJFish said:

My initial enquiry to a local dealer resulted in this offer:
"based on a Octavia Estate vRS 2.0 FSI (Petrol) with metallic paint and rear parking sensors...
The on the road price should be £20660 but with the VAT saving the price is bought down to £17702.88."
But that's without haggling.

There's a DSG TDi for sale just up the road from me, I'm tempted to go and have a look...........

It must have killed the used market, I wouldn't have been too pleased if I had bought before the offers were introduced.

The attractive offers and the finance deals make this used example look a bit expensive:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1559613.htm

Edited by CaptainSlow on Wednesday 17th March 10:27

To quote the last line of the advert.

"I paid nearly £21K for this car in September 09 so somebody will grab a bargain...Am looking for £16,250ovno"

He obviously didn't shop around.

I wonder what the "very special after market extra" is...

ETA - Probably just a remap?

Edited by james_tigerwoods on Wednesday 17th March 12:01

'Very Special Extra' brings to mine something completely unrelated...........

I went looking to buy used, Skoda salesperson pretty much said I could have a new one for what I was looking to spend, yet they're still trying to sell 2/3 yr old cars for premium money?

[MrLou]

DJFish said:

I went looking to buy used, Skoda salesperson pretty much said I could have a new one for what I was looking to spend, yet they're still trying to sell 2/3 yr old cars for premium money?

I think I might not have got the whole truth at the weekend.

I was told that the VAT free promo and the 2k/2.5k allowance could be used together, this seems not to be the case.

Shame.

[CaptainSlow]

What's the 2k/2.5k allowance?

[MrLou]

CaptainSlow said:

What's the 2k/2.5k allowance?

When I went to the dealer this weekend the guy explained that, as well as the well known 17.5% discount, Skoda were offering a psuedo-scrappage deal, £2k or £2.5k off selected models. He told me the two offers could be combined, seems that this was a mistake, I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.

The 17.5% discount promo ends on 31/03/2010, presumably the new 'scrappage' promo will take it's place.

[MrLou]

Confirmed that the VAT offer and the 'scrappage' offer can't be combined, it did seem to good to be true.

[mercGLowner]

My vRS CR should be built next month and hopefully I will see it in early May!

MrLou said:

Blown2CV said:

So I'm thinking 2.0TFSi DSG Hatch, MSFW+BT, leather, heated seats, maxidot, light asst, MDI, rear parking sensor. Colour Corrida red. Still only £18-odd K.

Has anyone successfully managed to get the DTD price AND the Skoda current low rate finance deal? It says on DTD FAQ that mfr finance deals are generally available through them, but it is a bit vague. Oh and are the finance deals only until end March? Apparently the zero-rate finance deals is for 50% dep and over 2 years, not sure I can quite manage that one, but the 4% low rate sounds like a goer.

I think there are better deals than DTD.

I was at my local dealer on Saturday, as we're shopping for either a Superb Estate or an Octavia Estate.

As the Superb estate is so new there are no real deals to be had yet, but the Octavia is a different matter.

The current deal is VAT free + either 2k off petrol or 2.5k off diesels, and can be combined with finance.

I make it that a 2.0T vRS at a list of £19904 could be had for £14420. (£19904*0.825) - £2000 = £14420

As this seems like such a good deal, I'm tempted to drop the idea of the superb and get an Octavia instead.

Please tell me where you get the vRS for the VAT free price and then a further £2.5K off. I think that is simply not possible on a new order. I got mine for £16195 (Diesel vRS hatchback in solid white, rear sensors, maxidot, MDI and full size spare wheel. That was with an Armed Forces discount of about 20% in total combined with the finance offers.

[Blown2CV]

basically the £2/2.5k offer is only realisable if you turn up with a PX you somehow acquired for free...

from what it sounds like it can't be used at the same time as the VAT free deal, and certainly wasn't mentioned by the salesman i spoke to today.

Incidentally, the monthly payments came out a lot cheaper than DTD, even though the headline price was more. I plan to order the car through DTD and then use Skoda finance to get a lower rate. It's PCP so I can't get the ultra-low rate, but its still lower than DTDs finance example that uses something like 10.6% APR. Possibly residuals are slightly higher too which brings the payment down.

[mercGLowner]

Blown2CV said:

basically the £2/2.5k offer is only realisable if you turn up with a PX you somehow acquired for free...

from what it sounds like it can't be used at the same time as the VAT free deal, and certainly wasn't mentioned by the salesman i spoke to today.

Incidentally, the monthly payments came out a lot cheaper than DTD, even though the headline price was more. I plan to order the car through DTD and then use Skoda finance to get a lower rate. It's PCP so I can't get the ultra-low rate, but its still lower than DTDs finance example that uses something like 10.6% APR. Possibly residuals are slightly higher too which brings the payment down.

I see! I am financing on the 7.9% PCP rate, it is pretty competitive I think and the monthly payments are very reasonable. There should even be some equity at the end, unlike my Mercedes which was handed back at the end of the contract. I managed to save about £400 or so over the DtD price (with no px).

[Blown2CV]

mercGLowner said:

Blown2CV said:

basically the £2/2.5k offer is only realisable if you turn up with a PX you somehow acquired for free...

from what it sounds like it can't be used at the same time as the VAT free deal, and certainly wasn't mentioned by the salesman i spoke to today.

Incidentally, the monthly payments came out a lot cheaper than DTD, even though the headline price was more. I plan to order the car through DTD and then use Skoda finance to get a lower rate. It's PCP so I can't get the ultra-low rate, but its still lower than DTDs finance example that uses something like 10.6% APR. Possibly residuals are slightly higher too which brings the payment down.

I see! I am financing on the 7.9% PCP rate, it is pretty competitive I think and the monthly payments are very reasonable. There should even be some equity at the end, unlike my Mercedes which was handed back at the end of the contract. I managed to save about £400 or so over the DtD price (with no px).

That's pretty good going. The dealer I went to today told me they had £900 margin in the deal so there was basically 'no room' for any further discounts. Firstly the DTD deal and what you have said proves this to be horsest, but secondly even if it was true they have to get their numbers in for end of month and end of quarter. Plus he told me they make no money on finance, which is also bullst as they are targetted on that too. I think what he meant was "we are making no extra money on you than we make on the next guy, so therefore we can't discount". Oh he also showed me a 2.0TFSi, told me it was a diesel and that they didn't have a petrol in stock. The whole way round the test drive he kept telling me about the torque and mid-range, despite it not actually being a diesel. I said I would go elsewhere for a test drive on a petrol despite him telling me it was crap and no-one ever bought it. He then 'found' some keys for a petrol and discovered it was the one we had already been out in. He promptly threw me the keys to the diesel and claimed he was too busy. I didn't buy and walked.

[Targarama]

Blown2CV said:

mercGLowner said:

Blown2CV said:

basically the £2/2.5k offer is only realisable if you turn up with a PX you somehow acquired for free...

from what it sounds like it can't be used at the same time as the VAT free deal, and certainly wasn't mentioned by the salesman i spoke to today.

Incidentally, the monthly payments came out a lot cheaper than DTD, even though the headline price was more. I plan to order the car through DTD and then use Skoda finance to get a lower rate. It's PCP so I can't get the ultra-low rate, but its still lower than DTDs finance example that uses something like 10.6% APR. Possibly residuals are slightly higher too which brings the payment down.

I see! I am financing on the 7.9% PCP rate, it is pretty competitive I think and the monthly payments are very reasonable. There should even be some equity at the end, unlike my Mercedes which was handed back at the end of the contract. I managed to save about £400 or so over the DtD price (with no px).

That's pretty good going. The dealer I went to today told me they had £900 margin in the deal so there was basically 'no room' for any further discounts. Firstly the DTD deal and what you have said proves this to be horsest, but secondly even if it was true they have to get their numbers in for end of month and end of quarter. Plus he told me they make no money on finance, which is also bullst as they are targetted on that too. I think what he meant was "we are making no extra money on you than we make on the next guy, so therefore we can't discount". Oh he also showed me a 2.0TFSi, told me it was a diesel and that they didn't have a petrol in stock. The whole way round the test drive he kept telling me about the torque and mid-range, despite it not actually being a diesel. I said I would go elsewhere for a test drive on a petrol despite him telling me it was crap and no-one ever bought it. He then 'found' some keys for a petrol and discovered it was the one we had already been out in. He promptly threw me the keys to the diesel and claimed he was too busy. I didn't buy and walked.

So are you telling me neither you or the salesman could tell you were test driving the petrol version?

[Blown2CV]

Targarama said:

Blown2CV said:

mercGLowner said:

Blown2CV said:

basically the £2/2.5k offer is only realisable if you turn up with a PX you somehow acquired for free...

from what it sounds like it can't be used at the same time as the VAT free deal, and certainly wasn't mentioned by the salesman i spoke to today.

Incidentally, the monthly payments came out a lot cheaper than DTD, even though the headline price was more. I plan to order the car through DTD and then use Skoda finance to get a lower rate. It's PCP so I can't get the ultra-low rate, but its still lower than DTDs finance example that uses something like 10.6% APR. Possibly residuals are slightly higher too which brings the payment down.

I see! I am financing on the 7.9% PCP rate, it is pretty competitive I think and the monthly payments are very reasonable. There should even be some equity at the end, unlike my Mercedes which was handed back at the end of the contract. I managed to save about £400 or so over the DtD price (with no px).

That's pretty good going. The dealer I went to today told me they had £900 margin in the deal so there was basically 'no room' for any further discounts. Firstly the DTD deal and what you have said proves this to be horsest, but secondly even if it was true they have to get their numbers in for end of month and end of quarter. Plus he told me they make no money on finance, which is also bullst as they are targetted on that too. I think what he meant was "we are making no extra money on you than we make on the next guy, so therefore we can't discount". Oh he also showed me a 2.0TFSi, told me it was a diesel and that they didn't have a petrol in stock. The whole way round the test drive he kept telling me about the torque and mid-range, despite it not actually being a diesel. I said I would go elsewhere for a test drive on a petrol despite him telling me it was crap and no-one ever bought it. He then 'found' some keys for a petrol and discovered it was the one we had already been out in. He promptly threw me the keys to the diesel and claimed he was too busy. I didn't buy and walked.

So are you telling me neither you or the salesman could tell you were test driving the petrol version?

Ha, well it doesn't look good on me does it, but in my defense it did occur to me at first that it couldn't be a diesel, due to being incredibly smooth, but I clearly don't drive one every day and I trusted what he was telling me (first mistake). Also, it is a turbo'd petrol so there is some mid-range thrust rather like a derv burner. Finally, I drive a diesel at the mo, but it is the most clattery old taxi POS that I figured the drive was more a reflection of what I was used to rather than it being the wrong car. In short, I didn't feel the incongruence was significant to challenge what I was being told. When I drove the diesel later I was surprised by how laggy it was, and it just made me want the FSi. All in all, yea it did make me feel a bit of a dick , but not as much as the clueless sales tosser should feel!

[Targarama]

Fairynuff. At least you didn't buy a diesel expecting it to be like the petrol one you test drove (thinking it was a diesel), then collect the car and find out later !

[Taita]

Diesel revving to 8k!

Edited by Taita on Sunday 21st March 20:17

[Blown2CV]

Targarama said:

Fairynuff. At least you didn't buy a diesel expecting it to be like the petrol one you test drove (thinking it was a diesel), then collect the car and find out later !

well exactly, i was a bit dismayed with myself, but really pissed off at the salesman. Especially as the diesel wasn't actually that impressive due to the lag. Probably a very good open road tool but not much usable shove under normal driving conditions (I won't say the location of the dealership, but it was urban). Also a bit clattery... but then the one I drove was an 06 reg which is older than mine might be when the contract ends.

[MrLou]

mercGLowner said:

Please tell me where you get the vRS for the VAT free price and then a further £2.5K off. I think that is simply not possible on a new order. I got mine for £16195 (Diesel vRS hatchback in solid white, rear sensors, maxidot, MDI and full size spare wheel. That was with an Armed Forces discount of about 20% in total combined with the finance offers.

As I said in previous post, it was a mistake by the salesman, the deals can't be combined.

Your deal seems to be as good as is possible at the moment.

[Blown2CV]

MrLou said:

mercGLowner said:

Please tell me where you get the vRS for the VAT free price and then a further £2.5K off. I think that is simply not possible on a new order. I got mine for £16195 (Diesel vRS hatchback in solid white, rear sensors, maxidot, MDI and full size spare wheel. That was with an Armed Forces discount of about 20% in total combined with the finance offers.

As I said in previous post, it was a mistake by the salesman, the deals can't be combined.

Your deal seems to be as good as is possible at the moment.

but not available to the public...

[mercGLowner]

Blown2CV said:

MrLou said:

mercGLowner said:

Please tell me where you get the vRS for the VAT free price and then a further £2.5K off. I think that is simply not possible on a new order. I got mine for £16195 (Diesel vRS hatchback in solid white, rear sensors, maxidot, MDI and full size spare wheel. That was with an Armed Forces discount of about 20% in total combined with the finance offers.

As I said in previous post, it was a mistake by the salesman, the deals can't be combined.

Your deal seems to be as good as is possible at the moment.

but not available to the public...

Maybe not, but a deal within £300 of that price is available to anyone who goes to Drive the Deal.