New tyre laws '11/'12

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HellDiver

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Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Due to the new emission regulations for replacement tyres, which are scheduled to be implemented in 2011, most tyres currently available for under £85/£95 price range in the 16" Tyre size (so no chance for people with 17" and 18") which includes all Budget manufacturers and many mid range tyres will fail to meet the new regulations on Tyre Noise, rolling resistance etc.

Brands slated as failing already on the new figures and not be available to sell (from 2011) are:

Avon ZZ3, Admiral, Chengshan, Falken, Fortuna, Federal, Goodride, Hankook, Kenda, Kumho, Linglong, Matador, Maxiss, Milestone, Nankang NS2, Nexen, Rotalla, Semperit, Sumo firenza, Sunny, Toyo, Triangle, Viking, and Wanli.

Some manufacturers are trying to ready replacement models but the "Tire Industry" say will increase prices by average of 35% across the range.

New regulations for MOT Failures have not as yet been dated

Heres the brief statement on the matter and the official link.

http://www.etrma.org/public/activitiestyreg.asp

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What Does the New S-Marking Law Mean for the Tyre Trade?

With the amount of European legislation about to be unleashed on the tyre market you can be forgiven for thinking you need a law degree to work in the tyre trade.

Since the introduction of the of end-of-life vehicle directive banning lead wheel balancing weights in mid-2006, tyre manufacturers, distributors and wholesalers alike have been bracing themselves for the introduction of the most stringent requirements on tyre rolling resistance, noise, wet grip and product labelling the market has ever seen.

Nevertheless, as important as these rules undoubtedly are, none of them take effect until 2011 for the original equipment market and 2012 for replacement market sales - and even this will be a phased introduction. T

he problem is that before these laws take effect there are at least two other major piece of legislation set to hit the markets. There is the so-called clean oil requirement, which bans the use of aromatic oils in the production of new tyres from Jan. 1, 2010, but again even this law offers the manufacturers it most directly affects another seven months of preparation time before they have to face the music. And what’s more, leading industry sources report that all European manufacturers either are or will be comfortably ready in time for the Jan. 1 deadline. The question is: were you aware that there is yet another bill on the European statute books that is scheduled for enforcement in less than six months?

Directive 2001/43/EEC, or s-marking legislation as it is more commonly known, represents the evolution of the earlier EC regulation or E-mark. In 2001 the European Parliament decided to bolt on noise requirements in addition to the existing requirements. Eight years later, with little publicity on the subject, introduction of this law is set to take effect on Oct. 1, 2009. The details of what is involved in the 22 pages of European law are far from clear, and at the time of going to press T&A was receiving more phonecalls seeking clarification on this than any other subject.

Here’s how we understand it: In the first instance the legislation forces products up to 185 section width to comply with enhanced noise emission standards, with tyres of 210 millimetres-plus width following a year later in October 2010. Sizes larger than this will follow a year later in 2011. At this stage it is worth pointing out that, according to the ETRMA, the first phase covers tyres of any business segment (passenger car, truck and buss etc). However, the 2010 and 2011 deadlines for up to and over 210 width tyres apparently only refers to passenger car products.

Incidentally, the latest round of legislation (which includes labelling rules, etc.) brings with it new regulations covering truck and bus tyre fitments.
To those selling or wholesaling the tyres the technical details of what decibel limits are being brought in are perhaps less important than the implications. And in this respect the rule has one very clear outworking – from October tyres covered by the legislation will have to have an “S” stamped at the end of its seven-digit code on the sidewall and those that don’t will be illegal.

To clarify (and I am indebted to Colin Smith of Sinton’s Tyres for elucidating the labyrinthine legislation on this point) this means your stock needs to have two seven-digit marks – one for the e-mark and one for the s-mark. (Tyres & Accessories/Staffordshire, U.K.) [/b]

I notice a few manufacturers have new tyres out, but there's a LOT of the old tyres still on shelves...

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I'm confused, WTF is going on? confused

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Better clear some space at the back of the garage to build up some stock.

Interesting that this legislation is due to be introduced whilst there are many type approved cars available for sale that come fitted with tyres that might not meet these criteria - e.g. do the Bridgestones that Nissan spec for the GTR meet these noise rules? Do the Pirelli Corsa and Michelin Cup tyres that are loved by BMW / Porsche / Ferrari for their headline ring lap cars meet these regulations?

Does anyone actually give a fk about a bit of road noise?

Have European governments implimented plans to replace all concrete surfaced roads, and alter their road resurfacing policy away from the smear-of-tar-with-a-sprinkling-of-chippings which offer low grip, poor drainage, uneven surface, and most importantly from this point of view, horendous road noise!

GreigM

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249 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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soad said:
I'm confused, WTF is going on? confused
The consumer is getting fked for more green ste

the_lone_wolf

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186 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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All those soon-to-be illegal tyres are going to create a helluva lot of emissions when they get taken out back and burned...

HellDiver

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Wednesday 17th February 2010
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To the best of my knowledge, the only Bridgestone that meets the regs currently is the Turanza ER300 Ecopia.

The only others I'm aware of are:

Michelin Energy Saver
Vredestein Ultrac Cento
Pirelli P7 Cinturato

There may be more, but it's an alarmingly small number.

At least this should get rid of some of the junk tyres like the P6000, Wanli, Yellow Sea, etc. Shame about all the good tyres it also kills off.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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What about classic cars?? That sounds a bit bizarre

HellDiver

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Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Fire99 said:
What about classic cars?? That sounds a bit bizarre
Since when does European legislation ever make sense?

parapaul

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198 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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So, effectively overnight, tyres that were legal will become illegal solely because they don't bear this 'S' mark?

mmm-five

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284 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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It doesn't say why those manufacturers don't meet the new requirements, but I'd guess that some of the 'funny name' brands will not meet them due to them being crap tyres in the first place, so good riddance.

Maybe this will stop people sticking on £25/corner ditchfinders just to pass an MOT on tread depth.

jon-

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216 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I would be surprised if this came "into force" any time soon. The tyre labelling laws showing the "green" credentials of the tyres was meant to have been introduced years ago. I've still yet to see one.

I'm sick of all this green profiteering.

ukzz4iroc

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174 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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fk I hate this constant moving backwards. Are we a democracy or not? Like being in fking China. s

Fire99

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229 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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mmm-five said:
Maybe this will stop people sticking on £25/corner ditchfinders just to pass an MOT on tread depth.
Really?? I'd rather affordable, road legal tyres (which are up to B.S) were being used by those on a budget rather than people being pushed towards dodgy MOT's and driving around in illegal cars with bald tyres.

Contrary to popular belief, generally, people who buy cheap tyres do so because they are short on cash. Not just tight.

robm3

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227 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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ukzz4iroc said:
fk I hate this constant moving backwards. Are we a democracy or not? Like being in fking China. s
I agree, and the people making the rules are isolated from the people they effect. In this instance, do you think any EU minister drives and pays for his own car??

Papa Hotel

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182 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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HellDiver said:
Avon ZZ3, Admiral, Chengshan, Falken, Fortuna, Federal, Goodride, Hankook, Kenda, Kumho, Linglong, Matador, Maxiss, Milestone, Nankang NS2, Nexen, Rotalla, Semperit, Sumo firenza, Sunny, Toyo, Triangle, Viking, and Wanli.
For the most part, that's fine.

Chris71

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242 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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the_lone_wolf said:
All those soon-to-be illegal tyres are going to create a helluva lot of emissions when they get taken out back and burned...
yes

It's just the same as perfectly serviceable cars being disposed of for the scrappage scheme while heavy industrial plants produce their replacements.

Tangent Police

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176 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Hang on a second.....

I usually have something running very noisy mud tyres.

I imagine "road legal cut slicks" are less than optimal.



Edited by Tangent Police on Wednesday 17th February 12:15

dylan0451

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191 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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i heard about this a while back, i think the biggest issue is that summer tyres, road legal slicks etc. are a lot quieter so would be ok to pass acoustics, unfortunately they'd all fall flat in aquaplaning/wet weather testing.

which means, we've seen the pinnacle of tyre technology (as with car performance?) and from now on (2011/2012) everything we use, for whatever purpose will be just a compromise for the greens. and lo and behold for a worse product we get charged more, probably won't last as long etc.

maybe as stated above road condition should be looked at before doing everyone for apparently illegal tyres

havoc

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235 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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ukzz4iroc said:
fk I hate this constant moving backwards. Are we a democracy or not? Like being in fking China. s
rofl

1) Democracy is a lovely term to describe how you get your population to cow themselves into submission. It doesn't really exist! wink

2) Move to China (try rural/industrial China, not the big cities or the tourist areas), THEN make that comment. Even on his worst day Winky (or the Eurocrats) aren't as bad as the Chinese authorities...nowhere NEAR!

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Federal are my prefered 'budget' tyre is 595 SS guise which I can get for £50 a corner now from camskill. I am also quite liking the Falken now they are run in.

this is a fking liberty