RE: Audi RS5 Breaks Cover

RE: Audi RS5 Breaks Cover

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Lil' Joe

1,548 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I really hope this a great driver's car, as they have nailed the looks with the A5, and this RS5 look's even better IMO. Interested to hear more on the engine too, I wonder why they have developed it from the R8's V10?

Darren, care to explain more on the torque issue's in the V8 RS4? I'd be most interested. smile

iluvmercs

7,541 posts

228 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Lil' Joe said:
Darren, care to explain more on the torque issue's in the V8 RS4? I'd be most interested. smile
Hi Lil' Joe,

At certain times, I've just found the engine left wanting for torque, unless of course you rev the nuts off it. (OK, I know some people out there will be cursing at me, thinking that's the whole point of the engine.)
For example, a 50mph, 3rd gear rolling start with a friend in 350Z didn't result the pulling away I was expecting. However, changing down gears resulted in expect anhiliation driving
Maybe it's me being a tad lazy and picky, but it's quite nice, on accasion, not to have work the gears so much.
But being caught in the wrong can leave one with egg on his or her face hehe
The peak torque seems to come in rather high in the rev range.

Also compared the C63 AMG it is massivly deficient on torque (by almost 140 lb/ft). I've driven a CLS63, and that was noticably quicker in the mid-range.

OK, the primary point just means you have put more effort in for the desired results.
But my second point became very obvious when behind a C63 on the track. It simply thundered away!

I would have assumed, given a new RS model with newer, more powerful V8, they would have increased the torque, too confused

Darren

E21_Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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nice car, but is it really worth 8 grand more than an M3 which i reckon will be just as quick and probably more fun to drive?

E21_Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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iluvmercs said:
The peak torque seems to come in rather high in the rev range.


Darren
people say the M3 is too low on torque, but the RS4 peak torque is actually it 5500 rpm, whereas the M3 (although *only* 297) gets peak at 3900, but 85% of it across 6500rpm band so it seemingly has more mid range. maybe that is the RS4's problem?

i've been in an RS4 many times (thousands of miles worth) and it never seems slow when getting revved really hard, it still pulls well in any gear, maybe it's my imagination but the M3 just seems that little little bit quicker. not much though, but it does.

can only compare with the M3 because i've not been in a C63, just an RS4 and M3's.

McAndy

12,487 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I need to see it in the flesh. Original A5 did nothing for me in photos but I loved it soon as I saw it on the road! Good to see an engine under the bonnet as well instead of the recent trend in the miraculous 'powered by a sheet of plastic'.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Sub 8 minute lap at the 'Ring?

red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I dont dislike it, but I dont really see the RS5 being as desirable as the 4 or the 6.
I think Audis image has been damaged a little over the last few years TBH.
Fairly boring styling and poor customer image is starting to rub off - IMHO.

I think its a half hearted effort - compared to RS's of old.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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At £58k i can really see this hurting sales of the TT-RS. That's £10k less, but a whole lot weaker than this...

Gr1fff

32 posts

172 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I love this car looks understated but... people know, looks like a muscle car in its s5 form so this should look even better?

parapaul

2,828 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Seems quite a disparity between the power and torque figures... nearly 450bhp but only 317lbft? For all its glossy looks I can't help but feel that it would feel a bit gutless...

Mannginger

9,072 posts

258 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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This was the one that was missing from their line up - looks lovely!

magnus911

584 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Looks gorgeous but it needs a flat bottom steering wheel. Every other S/RS Audi has one at the moment, why the regression here?

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Any figure for the weight?

broker1

11,718 posts

177 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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magnus911 said:
Looks gorgeous but it needs a flat bottom steering wheel. Every other S/RS Audi has one at the moment, why the regression here?
You can spec it...

RichardD

3,560 posts

246 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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parapaul said:
Seems quite a disparity between the power and torque figures... nearly 450bhp but only 317lbft? For all its glossy looks I can't help but feel that it would feel a bit gutless...
It isn't a bad torque figure for a naturally aspirated 4.2 litre engine smile

tim200sx

452 posts

208 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I've been looking forward to this ever since the A5 came out, looking at the pictures and spec and it seems like it's everything I hoped it would be. And then read further down and...........it's auto only cry wtf were they thinking?
Oh well it's not as if I could afford one till they were ten years old anyway... rolleyes

Edited by tim200sx on Wednesday 24th February 09:13

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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So, here's the question:



OR



Both c.450bhp, both 4wd, Audi slightly more expensive.

I think it may be more pertinent to ask though:



OR


FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Flog me if you want but I'd be more excited if this was an estate (sorry avant hehe)...

More in keeping with the Q-car image of Audi's from days yonder etc...

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Good comparison there, I bet the GTR is still a lot quicker

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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FWDRacer said:
Flog me if you want but I'd be more excited if this was an estate (sorry avant hehe)...

More in keeping with the Q-car image of Audi's from days yonder etc...
A coupe estate?