Main Dealer Service History Scam

Main Dealer Service History Scam

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Mroad

829 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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As mentioned check out iPlayer for Fake Britian - Fake Cars
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rgh6s/b00r...
36m30s in if you want to skip to the relevant part about fake service histories.

Includes an interview with a VW dealership that is seeing 12 cases a month of people coming in with fake histories from their own group.

Edited by Mroad on Saturday 13th March 22:19

Mojooo

12,744 posts

181 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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be interesting to see what the stamp says exactly

presumably if it names the exact dealership and it is used without their permission then it is somesort of offence. if they are closed then there is probably someother offence

Sir Bagalot

6,486 posts

182 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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If owners go to enough trouble to have their cars serviced by a main dealer and present this book to me when I'm thinking of buying their car then I would also expect to see a pile of invoices for said services. No invoices means I would smell a rat........

Mojooo

12,744 posts

181 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Incidentally.....................................................................................

I have a Ford car. I lost the service book when I last went for a service. but I do have all the receipts. This kind of thing is ideal for me, though I CBA to try it TBH.

matt 2LT

4,382 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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yes i believe this is what happened to mine, after it had been clocked.


it is a shame aswell as it actually had a pretty much full bmw service history anyway, but they threw that away and got a faked one with 2 different stamps, and different milages.

i will always check the mot history online now to check its genuine, or if main dealer stamps - call them and check they are genuine.

ARH

1,222 posts

240 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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Buy a stamp for £10 and stamp your own book. It so easy even car dealer can do it :-)

POORCARDEALER

8,526 posts

242 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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most manufacturers dont hold central databases unfortunatly

honest_delboy

1,505 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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went to see a Toyota this week with "full toyota service history" got there and lo and behold no receipts. The first 7 stamps looked legit but the last 2 were "Toyota Specialist" without the logo on the stamp. during the last 2 services (2 years) the car had done approx 4k miles which sounded low.

I went away and entered the dialing code for the "toyota specialist" in to google - Not a UK dialing code. The same thing for the postcode prefix - Not a UK postcode.

This and a couple of other things made me walk away.

mercGLowner

1,668 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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Sand1 said:
Never assume a car has a full service history from the service book. The only way to prove it is if it comes with wads and wads of invoices and receipts to back up the service book.
The only way to prove it is to speak directly to the servicing dealers who will have all the information on their computer systems.

I did this for a CLK55 I bought. My local MB dealership traced all the history which corroberated the stamps in the (duplicate) service book that was in the car. I also got a full print out of work carried out since the car was new.

GoodDoc

559 posts

177 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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I'm struggling to see the legitimate use for this service.

I'm assuming the arguments is that if you lose you history you can use these to replace the lost service book. I misplaced the service history for an Audi I use to own. I bought a replacement service history book from Audi. It was clearly marked duplicate on all pages but with a record of all services from Audi I was able to get the dealers to stamp the duplicate book.

If you where buying a car with one of these ebay service books all it would take is a call to one dealer to cast enough doubt over the car history's to think twice.

Do BWM and Renault service history books have an info sticker that includes specific details about the car it was supplied with? My Audi and current Skoda service books lists the engine & gearbox type, chassis and engine numbers and the exact supplied specification. It would be obvious it this had been removed or was missing from an official book.

POORCARDEALER

8,526 posts

242 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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mercGLowner said:
Sand1 said:
Never assume a car has a full service history from the service book. The only way to prove it is if it comes with wads and wads of invoices and receipts to back up the service book.
The only way to prove it is to speak directly to the servicing dealers who will have all the information on their computer systems.

I did this for a CLK55 I bought. My local MB dealership traced all the history which corroberated the stamps in the (duplicate) service book that was in the car. I also got a full print out of work carried out since the car was new.
You did well to get the print out of work done in the past, there is actually a data protection issue with them handing that to you.........the world we live in today!

V

Original Poster:

16,032 posts

208 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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They seem to be the original books he has got hold of, not the ones marked duplicate

jasperwade

740 posts

176 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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with BMW and Audi you can just ring the customer care line and corroborate the stamps with their history.
I can not think of a good reason for the other manufacturers to follow suit.

Doesn't stop non-main dealer fraud, but i would expect invoices alongside the stamps.

I dunno how much of a issue it would be. My Audi is now on 85k miles and has only had 4 services, so easy to check.

My bike that is on 6k services would be easier to forge the service history.

Vee

3,099 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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I don't bother with stamps in the book when buying, if there are no invoices showing the car's VIN then as far as I'm concerned it doesn't have full history.

V

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16,032 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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