RE: Limping Cat: Dying XJ220 Spotted
Discussion
XitUp said:
williamp said:
Why is the XJ220 so unloved??
Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
213. And the Koenigsegg CCR is also faster. And the actual worlds fastest production car, the SSC Ultimate Aero TT.Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
and the 6R4.
havoc said:
RV8 said:
I'd actually be proud to say I had a 6R4 engine under the bonnet.
tbh the 220 could have had a block of wood and an elastic band with V12 written on it for all most people know about engines, so long as it says V12 on it eh... besides the engine is there to deliver forward momentum, which it did in abundance, in both this and the 6R4.
Some people are never happy though, if they really did feel cheated because they were getting six cylinders less I bet they probably knew very little about engines. IMO the bottom line is that they were shelling out megabucks for a car with super car performance and were getting just that.
I presume that you'd be as happy with a turbo'd I-4 as a V8 in your sports-car then?!?tbh the 220 could have had a block of wood and an elastic band with V12 written on it for all most people know about engines, so long as it says V12 on it eh... besides the engine is there to deliver forward momentum, which it did in abundance, in both this and the 6R4.
Some people are never happy though, if they really did feel cheated because they were getting six cylinders less I bet they probably knew very little about engines. IMO the bottom line is that they were shelling out megabucks for a car with super car performance and were getting just that.
- Name me a V6 that sounds as good as a V12?
- Name me a turbocharged engine that has as good throttle-response as a n/asp enging with twice the capacity and/or twice the cylinders?
- Name me an engine delivering ~200bhp/tonne that will last as long between rebuilds as an engine delivering ~90-100bhp/tonne?
Supercars are NOT just about power. Far from it. The engine must have character and delivery too...things which the Macca F1 engine has in spades, things which Ferrari and Lambo V12s have in spades. Things which a TT V6 doesn't have to the same degree...even that particular engine (which is among the better V6's...).
fireballxl5lyric said:
YOU LEAVE A CAR LIKE THAT IN A DUST STORN IT WILL LOOK LIKE THAT OVER NIGHT ! HE JUST GOT LUCKY ...!
What, dented and battered, with one wingmirror hanging off?!? Damn, that's some hardcore dust they've got over there! 
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
markcoznottz said:
XitUp said:
williamp said:
Why is the XJ220 so unloved??
Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
213. And the Koenigsegg CCR is also faster. And the actual worlds fastest production car, the SSC Ultimate Aero TT.Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
and the 6R4.
Edited by MR2 Jon on Tuesday 6th April 18:04
RV8 said:
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
Are you actually reading what other people are writing? Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
Ecurie Ecosse said:
Well, I think the XJ220 is marvellous, and they look simply spectacular in the flesh, even now.
My Dad's friend had one in the 90s, and it was simply epic. I saw one again recently and it had lost none of the drama.
They seem to be keen value too, and are available for around £100k now for a RHD car.
Yup saw one fairly recently too; absolutely stunning. My Dad's friend had one in the 90s, and it was simply epic. I saw one again recently and it had lost none of the drama.
They seem to be keen value too, and are available for around £100k now for a RHD car.
RedAllOver said:
So why hasn't anyone done anything about it?........guess peeps don't want a jag, and why hasn't the guy that spotted/worked on it it not done anything it?
updates soon...man you guys are impatient! The pictures where taken the day it arrived...and that was only a few days ago.
MR2 Jon said:
markcoznottz said:
XitUp said:
williamp said:
Why is the XJ220 so unloved??
Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
213. And the Koenigsegg CCR is also faster. And the actual worlds fastest production car, the SSC Ultimate Aero TT.Its still a 217mph car- the third fastest production car ever. Only the Mclaren F1 and Veyron are quicker.
and the 6R4.
Edited by MR2 Jon on Tuesday 6th April 18:04
JonRB said:
RV8 said:
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
Are you actually reading what other people are writing? Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
If the 220 was always scheduled to have had a 6R4 V6 would it somehow be a better car? IMO It would have been revered as a super-car with a V6 rather than criticized. My initial post sparked off from criticism made about the installation of a 6R4 engine which was only to the detriment of the owners expectations not the vehicle. Do you follow.
I used to live a few miles from where they built these. On a weekend morning at about 4am, you would hear them going out for a "testing". Some of us used to go out early doors on some of the routes they used, and I recall having one came past me going ridiculously fast, possibly 140mph or so on a rural road with no white lines in the middle!
Maybe it was the shoddy brakes, but they didn't half shift on "real roads"!
I also remember my car being in a local bodyshop where they did some paint rectification and finishing on these (IIRC many had stood undelivered fro some time at the factory). One of the guys there was larking about and lobbed a hammer across the shop at someone, who doged it, hammer bounced and flicked up and landed square in the wing of one of these, making a decent dent / hole in it! Rumour was it was Elton John's, but whoever's it was, it ended up with a lump of "red dog" in the wing!!
Maybe it was the shoddy brakes, but they didn't half shift on "real roads"!
I also remember my car being in a local bodyshop where they did some paint rectification and finishing on these (IIRC many had stood undelivered fro some time at the factory). One of the guys there was larking about and lobbed a hammer across the shop at someone, who doged it, hammer bounced and flicked up and landed square in the wing of one of these, making a decent dent / hole in it! Rumour was it was Elton John's, but whoever's it was, it ended up with a lump of "red dog" in the wing!!
Edited by poo at Paul's on Tuesday 6th April 18:27
RV8 said:
It's just my opinion man.
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
Dave200 said:
Shhhhh. You're ruining havoc's chance of rubbishing a car he's never driven, and in fact has no actual first-hand experience of. Please stop letting petty first-hand obtained fact get in the way of his verbal diarrhoea.
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k me there's some obnoxious tts on PH today.[Duncan Bannatyne]Ahm oot![/DB]
havoc said:
RV8 said:
It's just my opinion man.
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
You are basically saying people felt they were robbed of 6 cylinders? Fair enough, I see it differently. They ordered a performance vehicle and performance is what they received, so then the engine gets flak because of it's size, even though it actually has a heritage.
Do you think I am going to shed a tear for a bunch of sour grapes playboys who put a lot of money down on cars that weren't even in production, then on receiving a fantastic car felt short changed for no real reason.
Dave200 said:
Shhhhh. You're ruining havoc's chance of rubbishing a car he's never driven, and in fact has no actual first-hand experience of. Please stop letting petty first-hand obtained fact get in the way of his verbal diarrhoea.
fk me there's some obnoxious tts on PH today.[Duncan Bannatyne]Ahm oot![/DB]
Yes, I know just what you mean.
good news guys i have just secured the car :yipee:
i have a friend in quatar who has just purchased the car for me and it is now in storage pending shipment.
amazing really, the guy who owns the land it was dumped on, only wanted 15 camels for it, so i managed to get 10 camels and 5 lamas which he said was really nice of me as they are easier to transport about. so just waiting for it to turn up now happy days
i have a friend in quatar who has just purchased the car for me and it is now in storage pending shipment.
amazing really, the guy who owns the land it was dumped on, only wanted 15 camels for it, so i managed to get 10 camels and 5 lamas which he said was really nice of me as they are easier to transport about. so just waiting for it to turn up now happy days
I had the pleasure of seeing two at TWR in Kidlington, Oxford up close and personal. Gorgeous looking car.
Also parked up was the Ford Transit mule used for engine testing, complete with the XJ220 engine in the back!
it's the same one often seen at track days complete with a copy of The Sun and ladder on the roof!
ETA. Found it!
Also parked up was the Ford Transit mule used for engine testing, complete with the XJ220 engine in the back!
it's the same one often seen at track days complete with a copy of The Sun and ladder on the roof!
ETA. Found it!
One of my favourite cars although I'd have it in the classic silver (do we have the XJ220 to thank for the gazillions of silver cars that symbolised the late 90's/early 00's)
Sadly I've never seen one on the roads. In fact along with the F50 it's about the only supercar I've wanted to see in the flesh but haven't (I've seen the usual enzo's, F1's, Veyron's, F40's etc)
Sadly I've never seen one on the roads. In fact along with the F50 it's about the only supercar I've wanted to see in the flesh but haven't (I've seen the usual enzo's, F1's, Veyron's, F40's etc)
the farm it was built at was called lampry a sons in bloxham before jaguar bought the site.
my grandad lived just down t road and we used to sneak over his back fence and walk up the fields and have a little spy with the field glasses, happier days and not a care in the world back then
my grandad lived just down t road and we used to sneak over his back fence and walk up the fields and have a little spy with the field glasses, happier days and not a care in the world back then
Edited by loose cannon on Tuesday 6th April 19:15
Absolutely. Superb.
The vehicle details for G134 XVX are:
Date of Liability 01 11 2010
Date of First Registration 22 09 1989
Year of Manufacture 1989
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3500CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £112.75
12 Months Rate £205.00
Dare say someone will be along in a minute to say it's a disappointment because it lacks a V12...
The vehicle details for G134 XVX are:
Date of Liability 01 11 2010
Date of First Registration 22 09 1989
Year of Manufacture 1989
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3500CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £112.75
12 Months Rate £205.00
Dare say someone will be along in a minute to say it's a disappointment because it lacks a V12...
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