which is better 1.8 MX5 or 3.0 Z3?
Discussion
300bhp/ton said:
asuppel said:
cheers neil bolton have you owned or driven either? anybody driven the 3.0 Z3 or owned one?
Isnt the Z3 a 2.8??As for which is best for you, it really depends what you are after. The MX5 is a very capable everyday sort of car. Doesn't really do anything wrong and should be fun. But by the same measure it's not massively striking at anything either. Ok it handles nice. But it's not that quick, doesn't sound a that great and looks ok rather than stunning.
A 2.8 Z3 is a different performance league really. A lot faster and nicer sounding and arguably better looking.
Drive both and see what you prefer.
The 2.8 is not so powerful, the 3.0l not so restricted at birth, however as mines been modified with the usual bits, it's got similar power as the 3.0l's, hence the comparison.
asuppel said:
cheers neil bolton have you owned or driven either? anybody driven the 3.0 Z3 or owned one?
Isnt the Z3 a 2.8??As for which is best for you, it really depends what you are after. The MX5 is a very capable everyday sort of car. Doesn't really do anything wrong and should be fun. But by the same measure it's not massively striking at anything either. Ok it handles nice. But it's not that quick, doesn't sound a that great and looks ok rather than stunning.
A 2.8 Z3 is a different performance league really. A lot faster and nicer sounding and arguably better looking.
Drive both and see what you prefer.
asuppel said:
so how well does and MX5 stand up as a daily commuter?
Absolutely fine.The later mark models are more refined and better on the motorway, but they're all generally ok places to be, either top up or down. The heaters are like furnaces, so top down in the winter is more than doable. Boot space is adequate, even better if you remove the spare wheel - the MX5 was designed to take 2 golf bags.
The mx5 is a great car I have owned 2.
I was out in the Elise at the weakened driving in the peak district and more than once I thought, "I wish I was in the 5" the Elise is better but there is something just so compelling about the 5, handling, amassing gear change, an engine that loves to rev and all this happens at speeds that legal.
I was out in the Elise at the weakened driving in the peak district and more than once I thought, "I wish I was in the 5" the Elise is better but there is something just so compelling about the 5, handling, amassing gear change, an engine that loves to rev and all this happens at speeds that legal.
DangerousMike said:
they are well known for ample boot space, it is well known that gangsters often use them for the transportation of dead victims to a location suitable for the dumping of bodies. They are also sometimes used for kidnapping.
Same time at the docks later? You bring the marigolds and secateurs this time.Depends on the model, but on the whole they are fine.
My Mk.1 S-Spec has Bilstein suspension which gives a hard ride so around town and on motorways it's a bit compromised. Then again, my dad's standard Mk.2 was fantastic - great ride, fine on the motorway, and still fun on the twisties!
My Mk.1 S-Spec has Bilstein suspension which gives a hard ride so around town and on motorways it's a bit compromised. Then again, my dad's standard Mk.2 was fantastic - great ride, fine on the motorway, and still fun on the twisties!
neil_bolton said:
DangerousMike said:
they are well known for ample boot space, it is well known that gangsters often use them for the transportation of dead victims to a location suitable for the dumping of bodies. They are also sometimes used for kidnapping.
Same time at the docks later? You bring the marigolds and secateurs this time.asuppel said:
oh no I cant make the decision, I like the idea of the dont mess with me looks of the Z3 and want the handling of the Mazda anything else out there?
Nope. Cos' if there were, I'd be driving it.ETA: As in, based on the fact I can't afford a TVR or something 15k +
Edited by neil_bolton on Monday 12th April 11:07
asuppel said:
OK an MX5 it is then, next question is 3100 too much for a 1.8 97 ltd edition with FSH and 67,000 miles on the clock and leather seats????
yeshttp://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/MAZD...
27,000 miles
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/MAZD...
asuppel said:
oh no I cant make the decision, I like the idea of the dont mess with me looks of the Z3 and want the handling of the Mazda anything else out there?
What cars have you driven or owned previously?Also I'm not convinced they are so far apart. Sure the Mazda is fairly light and very well balanced and its low HP makes exploiting the handling all the easier.
But I'm not convinced the Z3 is as wet as some are making it out to be, and I'm sure the extra grunt would most of the time make up for it.
So it then comes down to what you want and what you are after.
Making a guess on the price range, there are other open top sports cars that I suspect might be in budget:
-Toyota MR2 MKIII
-MG F
-Lotus Elan M100
-Classic MGB
-MB Midget
-Triumph Spitefire
-Triumph TR7 V8
-TVR 350i
-Corvette C4
-Fiat Barchetta
-smart Roadster
Remember with the classics it's probably possible to buy a "modernised" or improved version these days, either running a V8 or more modern powerplant, so could well be quite comparable to a newer car.
Sounds about right, although you might do a bit better if you're not fussy about the leather. For example:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1631351.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1631351.htm
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