RE: PH Heroes: Porsche 911 GT3 Mk1 (996)
Discussion
Matt UK said:
Stuart said:
GravelBen said:
The thing that I don't get about this car...
How on earth is it only an 8.7 on the P.H. o'meter?
How on earth is it only an 8.7 on the P.H. o'meter?
That's actually a very good score. You'd be surprised at how few cars get above 8.5.
Wonderful car. Want one.
The Mk 2 would be in the 9's.
Oh and Henry, step away from the plant with the funny shaped leaves!
monthefish said:
whythem said:
love these cars, especially with the tt such a bargain these days. The only thing Im not sure on is the fried eggs, but I've seen headlamp covers that seem to tidy them up. Techart I think.
If its the things I am thinking of, they were awful Looked like those very naff 'twin headlight conversion' stickers that were popular in the 90's
ETA - these?
the article said:
Rear seats aren't generally required in motorsport - and add unnecessary weight. These were therefore removed which, together with the deletion of other fripperies, brought the weight down to 1350kg.
Was the GT3 not heavier than the standard C2?Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 11th May 11:19
anniesdad said:
Matt UK said:
Stuart said:
GravelBen said:
The thing that I don't get about this car...
How on earth is it only an 8.7 on the P.H. o'meter?
How on earth is it only an 8.7 on the P.H. o'meter?
That's actually a very good score. You'd be surprised at how few cars get above 8.5.
Wonderful car. Want one.
The Mk 2 would be in the 9's.
Oh and Henry, step away from the plant with the funny shaped leaves!
Cheeky fecker !
P.S I did get your PM, sorry I've not responded, too busy biggin up the MK1 on PH
You have done a great job explaining the GT3.
I had the pleasure of working for a Porsche dealer at the launch.
Once I read the subtantial plain printed technical booklet, I called my three best customers and took three deposits. One week later the entire production allocation for Australia had been sold, sight unseen.
The three customers were delighted with the car.
The difference in feel on the road to the standard 996 was like comparing a Mazda to a Ferrari 355. The car didnt vibrate it pulsated. The tiny details like replacing nylon bushes with brass ones for decreased elasicity one example of how the GT3 was a bargain at only about 12% more than a stock 996.
I have driven one on Eastern Creek at a track day and the GT2 was only about 1/2 length per lap quicker. Not bad considering it (GT2)was at about A$400k some 80,000 pounds more expensive.
I proudly told my customers that they were buying a true classic. they were.
I want one when I grow up.
I had the pleasure of working for a Porsche dealer at the launch.
Once I read the subtantial plain printed technical booklet, I called my three best customers and took three deposits. One week later the entire production allocation for Australia had been sold, sight unseen.
The three customers were delighted with the car.
The difference in feel on the road to the standard 996 was like comparing a Mazda to a Ferrari 355. The car didnt vibrate it pulsated. The tiny details like replacing nylon bushes with brass ones for decreased elasicity one example of how the GT3 was a bargain at only about 12% more than a stock 996.
I have driven one on Eastern Creek at a track day and the GT2 was only about 1/2 length per lap quicker. Not bad considering it (GT2)was at about A$400k some 80,000 pounds more expensive.
I proudly told my customers that they were buying a true classic. they were.
I want one when I grow up.
Problem is they are all fairly hard driven and old, AND expensive now
Not a cheap engine to re-fettle either.
And those brass bushes sound like they will give other components a good work out
Still want one, but it's probably going to be expensive to own one and keep it in tip-top fettle! Possibly enough to make something like a Turbo one a much more realistic proposition as they get older and older
Dave
Not a cheap engine to re-fettle either.
And those brass bushes sound like they will give other components a good work out
Still want one, but it's probably going to be expensive to own one and keep it in tip-top fettle! Possibly enough to make something like a Turbo one a much more realistic proposition as they get older and older
Dave
Dan S said:
Whats the next best 996 then for people with smaller wallets? C4S? C2S? or is the next best 996 a 993?
993 c2s is pretty special too IMO, but they are not cheap either, eek!All the best ones cost too much
996tt is possibly the next best 996, especially if bang per buck is a factor
Nice feature, Jeremy. As an owner I am equally enamored with the very first GT3.
A beautifully honed and immediate chassis that imparts magical sensations and forces through the interfaces between it and your body, and an engine that is the culmination of Porsche Motorsport's 25 years experience developing liquid-cooled racing engines. For me, the sweetspot of Porsche homologation. Undoubtably a masterpiece.
A beautifully honed and immediate chassis that imparts magical sensations and forces through the interfaces between it and your body, and an engine that is the culmination of Porsche Motorsport's 25 years experience developing liquid-cooled racing engines. For me, the sweetspot of Porsche homologation. Undoubtably a masterpiece.
Mr Whippy said:
993 c2s is pretty special too IMO, but they are not cheap either, eek!
All the best ones cost too much
996tt is possibly the next best 996, especially if bang per buck is a factor
too right. i saw a 120k mile 993c2s up for almost 30 bags of sand the other day. i know it's condition not mileage (blah blah) but even so it's a lot of money.All the best ones cost too much
996tt is possibly the next best 996, especially if bang per buck is a factor
in answer to the question i'd say the next best thing is to get a 964 and (preofessionally) 'RS' it. that'd cost early £20ks (??) and be worth a bit less (or indeed get your money back if you found a like minded person to pass it on to).
briSk said:
Mr Whippy said:
993 c2s is pretty special too IMO, but they are not cheap either, eek!
All the best ones cost too much
996tt is possibly the next best 996, especially if bang per buck is a factor
too right. i saw a 120k mile 993c2s up for almost 30 bags of sand the other day. i know it's condition not mileage (blah blah) but even so it's a lot of money.All the best ones cost too much
996tt is possibly the next best 996, especially if bang per buck is a factor
in answer to the question i'd say the next best thing is to get a 964 and (preofessionally) 'RS' it. that'd cost early £20ks (??) and be worth a bit less (or indeed get your money back if you found a like minded person to pass it on to).
edit: fairly good list (and motor) here http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1632156.htm
Edited by Dan S on Wednesday 12th May 19:11
CraigW said:
to add to all the comments, at vmax despite some very serious automotive weaponry I'd wager that having passengered with him, there arent many people who'd do a quicker lap than Mr Copp in that GT3. The man can seriously drive.
Yep it was a pax lap in the spring 09 Vmax with Herr Copp which cemented my “gotta get one” over a Mk2.Fabulous cars the Mk1, utterly sublime and just a real delight.
There’s a reason it came 3rd in the 100 greatest drivers cars article in EVO.
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