Stop/start technology
Discussion
, then?
My girlfriends KA has it, I quite like using it as it gives you more control than the newer systems do.
It's a little key like device that you put in the right hand side of the steering wheel column. When you want the engine running you turn it clockwise and release. When you're stuck in slow moving traffic or at a long set of lights you can turn it anti clockwise to stop the engine.
It's a little key like device that you put in the right hand side of the steering wheel column. When you want the engine running you turn it clockwise and release. When you're stuck in slow moving traffic or at a long set of lights you can turn it anti clockwise to stop the engine.
Sixpackpert said:
rypt said:
It would mean changing how I drive as I tend to be in gear, clutch down, foot on brakes when in traffic rather than in neutral, clutch up
So it's you that burns my retinas with his brake lights then!My main beams are however about to have some 130W rally lights put in
Edited by rypt on Thursday 27th May 12:30
kambites said:
rypt said:
It would mean changing how I drive as I tend to be in gear, clutch down, foot on brakes when in traffic rather than in neutral, clutch up
That's really not very good for your clutch release bearing. RobM77 said:
If a wasp flew in the car and stung you or something, you could release your feet and fly into the car in front,
Chances of that happening without instantly stalling the engine? 750rpm idle and popping the clutch will stall, plain and simple. Hardly "fly into the car in front".HellDiver said:
Chances of that happening without instantly stalling the engine? 750rpm idle and popping the clutch will stall, plain and simple. Hardly "fly into the car in front".
I imagine if he's the type of mongoloid to keep their foot on the brake during traffic, he's possibly also the type of mongoloid to stop 1" behind the car in front 
rypt said:
Sixpackpert said:
rypt said:
It would mean changing how I drive as I tend to be in gear, clutch down, foot on brakes when in traffic rather than in neutral, clutch up
So it's you that burns my retinas with his brake lights then!Rawwr said:
HellDiver said:
Chances of that happening without instantly stalling the engine? 750rpm idle and popping the clutch will stall, plain and simple. Hardly "fly into the car in front".
I imagine if he's the type of mongoloid to keep their foot on the brake during traffic, he's possibly also the type of mongoloid to stop 1" behind the car in front And I do not stop 1" behind the car in front, I tend to actually leave a large gap ahead of me just because
Cant say I often sit with the handbrake on, in neutral and foot off the clutch... Possibly at set of lights that take for forever to change or a traffic jam i suppose.
So when the engine turns off do the heaters, radio, wipers and lights all continue to work??
Wonder what the maintenance costs are for this when things need replacing?? Same price as a normal battery/starting motor??
So when the engine turns off do the heaters, radio, wipers and lights all continue to work??
Wonder what the maintenance costs are for this when things need replacing?? Same price as a normal battery/starting motor??
Dracoro said:
All well and good in a new reliable car. I wonder what these cars are like in 5/10/15 years time when they struggle to start, things start playing up etc.
My sentiments exactly. I forsee a future full of totally un-servicable 'tech-heavy' cars containing systems which are too complicated for affordable independents to work on and too old for main dealers to even care about.Also, how much battery charge do you use to fire-up an engine? Surely in bad enough stop-start traffic you'll end up with a flat battery because you don't run the engine for long enough between each stop to replace the power discharged the last time you started the engine.
Owners of simple, old cars – Hang on to them!
kambites said:
Several people have said they don't like it now and none of them have given a reason. Would one of you care to enlighten us as to what it actually does wrong?
I gave the stop/start stuff a good try when we first got the car and found that:a) It didn't return any noticeable fuel savings, unless in a long traffic jam which isn't moving, which you could just turn the engine off manually anyway!
b) When pulling away from the lights if you've just started the engine there is occasionally a tendency to stall, where it wouldn't have done if the engine was on.
c) It doesn't cut out early enough, so when you are coasting to the lights in Neutral (I know you shouldn't..) with foot off the clutch the engine won't cut out until you are stationary which is annoying...
d) Looks like you've stalled it pulling up to the lights!
Good things:
a) If in a queue which is on a down hill slope, you can roll down the hill in Neutral and the car will start itself when you get over 5mph!
b) Reduces emissions, so in a lower tax band
rypt said:
Rawwr said:
HellDiver said:
Chances of that happening without instantly stalling the engine? 750rpm idle and popping the clutch will stall, plain and simple. Hardly "fly into the car in front".
I imagine if he's the type of mongoloid to keep their foot on the brake during traffic, he's possibly also the type of mongoloid to stop 1" behind the car in front GFWilliams said:
c) It doesn't cut out early enough, so when you are coasting to the lights in Neutral (I know you shouldn't..) with foot off the clutch the engine won't cut out until you are stationary which is annoying...
Having experienced the unenviable task of trying to bring my car to a halt after a faulty camshaft sensor caused it to cut-out, I can safely say that it would be far more annoying to find myself coasting toward the rear end of another vehicle with unassisted brakes.
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