RE: Fast Audi A1s Could Be On The Way

[Hellbound]

Just call it the A1 Quattro and put my name down.

Ditch the dsg to keep the cost/weight down if you must.

[edo]

Hellbound said:

Just call it the A1 Quattro and put my name down.

Ditch the dsg to keep the cost/weight down if you must.

me too. I'll have mine with the 265bhp S3 engine tweaked to 300bhp, fruity exhaust, lightweight sports seats, no rear seats, plenty of lightened CF panels and parts, quattro, and manual. Keep it relatively stock looking from the outside please.

how much heavier would a 265 4 pot be over any of the current standard engine options?

[jazzdevil]

marcosgt said:

Who cares?

They lost me last weekend...

M.

Why? Because they didn't break like 'that other team'?

[Roman]

va1o said:

danp said:

which seems amazing, or someone has got their figures wrong!

Nope not wrong. All the latest cars are coming out weighing less than their predecessors' it seems, which can only be a good thing.

Many are getting lighter but I really can't see an A1 weighing similar to an old base model Vauxhall Chevette or a Smart Roadster or to put it another way, 300kg less than the kerbweight of a Fiat 500!

[Hub]

So will this be above the inevitable 180BHP 1.4 TSI DSG that is being fitted to every performance version on this platform?

[Twincam16]

I hope this is a proper baby quattro.

If not, that headline might as well read 'Version of Polo GTI for people with more money than sense could be on the way.'

[the-photographer]

[quote=danp
Audi say the gross weight limit of the base A1 is 1490kg .. so:

1040kg - 225kg (half of the full load) - 30kg (for 90% of 45 litres tank) = 785kg unladen (no fuel or EU additions)

Base MINI (online numbers) is 1135kg to EU2 spec, where EU2:

"²The figure quoted includes a 90% tank filling, 68 kg for the driver and 7 kg for luggage."

So .. 1135kg - 27kg (90% of 40 litre tank) - 68kg - 7kg = 1033 kg

quote]

I would calculate the figures to make the A1 equivalent with the Mini as:

Base Mini 1135kg inc driver
Base A1 1040 + 75 for driver/luggage = 1115kg

Polo 1.2T 1088kg inc driver
Polo GTI (DSG) is 1269kg inc driver

[alexpa]

I'll have the original S1 please

[danp]

the-photographer said:

I would calculate the figures to make the A1 equivalent with the Mini as:

Base Mini 1135kg inc driver
Base A1 1040 + 75 for driver/luggage = 1115kg

Polo 1.2T 1088kg inc driver
Polo GTI (DSG) is 1269kg inc driver

Yeah but Audi themselves say it's 1040kg to that Directive 80/1268/EEC (which includes over 250kg of load) ...

I think that they are mistaken, figures near the MINI/Polo would seem more realistic, especially as it doesn't have any lightweight tech at all, or anything clever whatsoever for that matter.

[the-photographer]

danp said:

the-photographer said:

I would calculate the figures to make the A1 equivalent with the Mini as:

Base Mini 1135kg inc driver
Base A1 1040 + 75 for driver/luggage = 1115kg

Polo 1.2T 1088kg inc driver
Polo GTI (DSG) is 1269kg inc driver

Yeah but Audi themselves say it's 1040kg to that Directive 80/1268/EEC (which includes over 250kg of load) ...

I think that they are mistaken, figures near the MINI/Polo would seem more realistic, especially as it doesn't have any lightweight tech at all, or anything clever whatsoever for that matter.

Isnt it based on the Polo platform? If yes, then it must be comparable to Polo weights.

[Chris-R]

The first 'hot' S1 version (arriving next year I think) will get the 1.4 litre turbo/supercharged engine as per Polo GTI but with perhaps a handful more ponies to match the Mini Cooper S which has just been bumped to 184hp.

[Twincam16]

contango said:

Twincam16 said:

I hope this is a proper baby quattro.

If not, that headline might as well read 'Version of Polo GTI for people with more money than sense could be on the way.'

I honestly think they will sell more A1's in that spec in the Uk than Polos, even though the Audi will be priced at a premium, would that be a problem as far as VAG are concerned???

No it wouldn't, although I cannot help but express cynicism at the way VW and Audi ranges effectively blend together whilst marketing screams until it's blue in the face convincing the malleable public otherwise.

I'm well aware that the VW-Audi crossover engineering harks all the way back to the original Golf/Polo/Scirocco/Passat sharing their innards with various Audis when VW were in a tight spot as the Beetle's appeal was flagging and they desperately needed new models, but you'd have thought they'd have developed very distinct identities by now.

To my mind, no Audi is a true Audi unless it's got 4WD.

[Mr Dave]

danp said:

va1o said:

danp said:

which seems amazing, or someone has got their figures wrong!

Nope not wrong. All the latest cars are coming out weighing less than their predecessors' it seems, which can only be a good thing.

Give me some examples of this, I'm not sure it's a common theme...

I'd be astounded if the A1 weighs within 100kg of a Toyota Aygo/Pug 107/Citroen C1. (which would appear to be 890kg, not sure to which measure)

Edited by danp on Tuesday 15th June 17:47

E39 BMW 5 series weighs less than the E34, the E60 weighs less than the E39.

Mark 4 Supra weighs less than the Mark 3.

Just for some older examples.

[va1o]

Latest Fiesta, Polo, Golf and Audi A4

[hotmelt]

Mini is supercar to drive by comparison.

Edited by hotmelt on Thursday 17th June 00:39