Shared components???

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Dave^

7,393 posts

254 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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The Vauxhall Agila and the Suzuki Splash were pretty much one of the same...





As were the Peugeot Partner and Citroen Berlingo...




Trommel

19,167 posts

260 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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That's badge engineering, not component sharing.

Aviz

1,669 posts

170 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Sorry if this one's been done



Invicta


Dave^

7,393 posts

254 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Trommel said:
That's badge engineering, not component sharing.
It's better than a pearoast... tongue out

Aviz

1,669 posts

170 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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nsmith1180

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3,941 posts

179 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Dave^ said:
The Vauxhall Agila and the Suzuki Splash were pretty much one of the same...



Yes, but the only common exterior components are the door mirrors and the glass. Every pannel is different. Interior fabrics and dash colours are the only interior differences except the badge on the wheel.

Along the same vein is the Suzuki SX4 and the Fiat Sedici, Suzuki designed and build, Fiat JTD engines and 4x4 system.

Every fiat was 4x4, only the 4Grip Suzuki had the system.

Dan67

69 posts

171 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo

Also anything from the VW family so buggatti/audi/lamborhini/bentley/VW/Seat/skoda. Its suprising how many diferent badges are stamped onto the parts for this group and are thens ahred on vehicles.

chevrolet/dihatsu matiz
Also I think vauxhall may share alot of components with chevrolet EU

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Aviz said:
Sorry if this one's been done
Only three times now. hehe

Good thread.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Dan67 said:
Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo

Also anything from the VW family so buggatti/audi/lamborhini/bentley/VW/Seat/skoda. Its suprising how many diferent badges are stamped onto the parts for this group and are thens ahred on vehicles.

chevrolet/dihatsu matiz
Also I think vauxhall may share alot of components with chevrolet EU
Those Dihatsu Matiz cars are rare. And I think you have really jumped to conclusions with the C1, 107, Aygo thing... they look nothing like each other! You're crazy.

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Dan67 said:
Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_107

nsmith1180

Original Poster:

3,941 posts

179 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Mr Gear said:
Dan67 said:
Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo

Also anything from the VW family so buggatti/audi/lamborhini/bentley/VW/Seat/skoda. Its suprising how many diferent badges are stamped onto the parts for this group and are thens ahred on vehicles.

chevrolet/dihatsu matiz
Also I think vauxhall may share alot of components with chevrolet EU
Those Dihatsu Matiz cars are rare. And I think you have really jumped to conclusions with the C1, 107, Aygo thing... they look nothing like each other! You're crazy.
107/C1 and Aygo are all produced in the same factory, co developed and share pritty much everything, tho toyota insisted on a different body to differentiate.

Dont think Dihatsu Matiz is anything to do with Chevy one, unless Dihatsu bought tooling, can you put a piccy up of the Dihatsu as i cant seem to find one on google.

Chevrolet Europe is pritty much Vauxhall Bluestripe these days. The Epica is a rebadged and slightly re bodied vectra C, the Cruize is built on the outgoing astra platform with insignia parts. The Aveo is a mistake and the Spark is very similar in engineering to the Agila/Splash. Captiva uses the same engine, gearbox, chassis, windscreen and lower interior plastics as Antara and Chevy build the Antara for vauxhall in Korea.

Its the same with Saab, 9-3 is a vectra C with a wig, infact so is the Cadillac BLS and BLS wagon. New 9-5 uses the same platform as the Insignia. 9-4 will use Antaras platform and 9-1 or 9-2, whatever they decide to call it would have used the astra platform, dont know what Spyker intend to do with that. Im guessing the Aero X will use the C8 Lavollette platform now. It was going to use the Corvette platform IIRC.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
Mr Gear said:
Dan67 said:
Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo

Also anything from the VW family so buggatti/audi/lamborhini/bentley/VW/Seat/skoda. Its suprising how many diferent badges are stamped onto the parts for this group and are thens ahred on vehicles.

chevrolet/dihatsu matiz
Also I think vauxhall may share alot of components with chevrolet EU
Those Dihatsu Matiz cars are rare. And I think you have really jumped to conclusions with the C1, 107, Aygo thing... they look nothing like each other! You're crazy.
107/C1 and Aygo are all produced in the same factory, co developed and share pritty much everything, tho toyota insisted on a different body to differentiate.

Dont think Dihatsu Matiz is anything to do with Chevy one, unless Dihatsu bought tooling, can you put a piccy up of the Dihatsu as i cant seem to find one on google.

Chevrolet Europe is pritty much Vauxhall Bluestripe these days. The Epica is a rebadged and slightly re bodied vectra C, the Cruize is built on the outgoing astra platform with insignia parts. The Aveo is a mistake and the Spark is very similar in engineering to the Agila/Splash. Captiva uses the same engine, gearbox, chassis, windscreen and lower interior plastics as Antara and Chevy build the Antara for vauxhall in Korea.

Its the same with Saab, 9-3 is a vectra C with a wig, infact so is the Cadillac BLS and BLS wagon. New 9-5 uses the same platform as the Insignia. 9-4 will use Antaras platform and 9-1 or 9-2, whatever they decide to call it would have used the astra platform, dont know what Spyker intend to do with that. Im guessing the Aero X will use the C8 Lavollette platform now. It was going to use the Corvette platform IIRC.
Woosh-tastic.

There is no such thing as a Dihatsu Matiz. It's a Daewoo Matiz. Daewoo were bought by GM a few years ago. I was being sarcastic. Same as I was about the c1/Aygo. Dan67 was posting the bleedin' obvious and I was being rude.

nsmith1180

Original Poster:

3,941 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Mr Gear said:
nsmith1180 said:
Mr Gear said:
Dan67 said:
Am I right in thinking these are all the same/similar?
Citroën C1
Peugeot 107
Toyota Aygo

Also anything from the VW family so buggatti/audi/lamborhini/bentley/VW/Seat/skoda. Its suprising how many diferent badges are stamped onto the parts for this group and are thens ahred on vehicles.

chevrolet/dihatsu matiz
Also I think vauxhall may share alot of components with chevrolet EU
Those Dihatsu Matiz cars are rare. And I think you have really jumped to conclusions with the C1, 107, Aygo thing... they look nothing like each other! You're crazy.
107/C1 and Aygo are all produced in the same factory, co developed and share pritty much everything, tho toyota insisted on a different body to differentiate.

Dont think Dihatsu Matiz is anything to do with Chevy one, unless Dihatsu bought tooling, can you put a piccy up of the Dihatsu as i cant seem to find one on google.

Chevrolet Europe is pritty much Vauxhall Bluestripe these days. The Epica is a rebadged and slightly re bodied vectra C, the Cruize is built on the outgoing astra platform with insignia parts. The Aveo is a mistake and the Spark is very similar in engineering to the Agila/Splash. Captiva uses the same engine, gearbox, chassis, windscreen and lower interior plastics as Antara and Chevy build the Antara for vauxhall in Korea.

Its the same with Saab, 9-3 is a vectra C with a wig, infact so is the Cadillac BLS and BLS wagon. New 9-5 uses the same platform as the Insignia. 9-4 will use Antaras platform and 9-1 or 9-2, whatever they decide to call it would have used the astra platform, dont know what Spyker intend to do with that. Im guessing the Aero X will use the C8 Lavollette platform now. It was going to use the Corvette platform IIRC.
Woosh-tastic.

There is no such thing as a Dihatsu Matiz. It's a Daewoo Matiz. Daewoo were bought by GM a few years ago. I was being sarcastic. Same as I was about the c1/Aygo. Dan67 was posting the bleedin' obvious and I was being rude.
Sorry, you never know on this site who is being uninformed and who is being dense, or as in your case, Sarcastic.

Tripe Bypass

584 posts

204 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Old supercharged Aston Martin Vantage had a Sierra steering rack and the Ferrari F40 had the rack from a Fiat Tipo. The Ascari was going to have an Alfa rack then it changed to a Porsche rack but not sure what they finally settled on.

Edited by Tripe Bypass on Saturday 26th June 12:45

Triumph Man

8,712 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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The early Lamborghini Diablos used column stalks shared with the Rover SD1/Mini/TR7/other assorted BL tin. The later cars used Fiat coupe items I believe.



Triumph Man

8,712 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I'm not sure you can get more anally retentive than that... I wonder if there is a price difference for the two items? Rimmer bros list the SD1 item as £35.00. The more eagle eyed of you will notice that the SD1 stalk is from a Series 1 car, where the indicator and wiper stalks were on different sides of the column to what we would consider "normal" today. The series 2 did however have this arrangement.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Just a few more examples


Lamborghini Jalpa / silhouette door handles = Fiat X1/9 (as were dozens of other parts)
Rolls Royce Silver Shadow brake pads = Ford (IIRC Granada or Cortina)
Ferrari 308 cam belt bearings = Fiat VAN cam belt bearings
Later Lamborghini Countach electric mirrors = Ferrari electric mirrors (512bbi, 308 qv, 328, 400i SII / 412)
Early Ferrari windscreen washer fluid bottle = Fiat washer fluid bottle
Ferrari 308 Brakes = Porsche 911 Brakes
Ferrari 400i brake pads = BMW 633
Ferrari 400 / 412 / Mondial (8, qv, 3.2) door handle = Alfa spider door handle

There are literally thousands of off the shelf parts used by the smaller companies, it's nothing to do with any styling choices, but simply the cost of tooling up and producing a small run of parts is far too much and would increase the price of the cars enormously . . . . . . . . . . it has of course been going on for almost as long as the motor car has been with us

Save Ferris

2,687 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I'm not 100% on this one, so happy to be corrected....
The Aston virage shooting brake shares it rear lights with the Reanult 21 estate.




Triumph Man

8,712 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Forgive me, but the Renault in that photo somehow looks better built than the Aston...

N.B. I'd still have the Aston.

nsmith1180

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3,941 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I dont think astons look right shooting braked.