RE: Subaru Gets Serious About Design

RE: Subaru Gets Serious About Design

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adycav

7,615 posts

218 months

Wednesday 14th July 2010
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Various PHers said:
That looks terrible.

Minging.

That looks stting ugly.

Big fat bag of wk

What a load of puke inducing toss.

Ugly. Bloody ugly at that.

What the fk is that? Citroen?

Oh god thats fking bks

What a fecking disgrace.
hehe
Not a resounding success then.

You lot need to stop sitting on the fence!

Legacywr

12,214 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th July 2010
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Yes that does look good!

Legacywr

12,214 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th July 2010
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My Legacy




HowardB

146 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th July 2010
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all I want is a replacement for my 07 plate WRX wagon, simple big BHP, low on technical rubbish.

I don't need a steering wheel with 16 buttons that looks as though it's out of a gaming console.
I don't need electric seats, because I don't adjust them that often, and when I do, I don't want to have the ignition on.
I don't need beeping sounds to tell me I'm too close, or cruise control, I can see out of the windows and I can drive (mostly ok-ish)

All I want is a wonderfully simple exciting car, don't make me any further removed from the action, because if you (Subaru) do, I shall abandon the new range of cars and buy only second hand ones!

rant over

Fresh_Clip

197 posts

195 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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A moments silence please...

After designing this



and this.



The ugly stick at Subaru has been flailed down to this


Pity the poor ugly stick now that it finds it must be applied to the next generation of Subarus!

Why don't Subaru just take up this idea from Prodrive?


deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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build this please!

Camry_Man

65 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I was hoping someone was going to post that.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I think the latest WRX STI is the best looking of al the Imprezas. How can anyone say they 22b is a good looking car, it looks like it was designed by Stevie Wonder. I like Imprezas because they are purposeful and ugly and have the ability to back up that look.

None of them have ever been a looker to be fair.

This concept is crap, they need to come up with something to define them and be bold, people like interesting or if they dont like it will accept it if it is a good car.

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Mastodon2 said:
Subaru used to have some great designs - a woman I work with has a 05 WRX STi and it's great. Stunning whichever angle you look at it, muscular and purposeful looking. The big air scoop on the bonnet, the big rear wing, the gold alloys and gold brembos, the foglight covers with the STi logo on them, it's a stunning car imo.

Even the Impreza hatch is a decent looker imo, at least in it's STi form. You can tell it was designed with the big air intake the rear spoiler, and the lower-spec models without those features do look curiously bare, but it's not the horrific mess everyone made it out to be. Yes the performance was not as strong, particularly in the handling they say, but it was still not a bad looking car. The new Subaru Cosworth is one of the nicest, most desirable cars I've seen this year despite the slightly daft pricetag. Even the new Impreza saloon posted in this thread (the white one similar to the one that set the new record at the ring a few weeks ago) looks fantastic.

However, this new design is crap. I know these concept pictures are not quite how the car turns out in the end, but that is just awful. If Subaru really think that closing the doors on the "performance" department and putting their effort into "bland family cars" is going to turn them into an overnight megabucks company they are dead wrong. They will lose everything that makes their company stand out as it is.
PICS!

Twincam16

27,646 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Guvernator said:
I don't work in any sort of design capacity but I am really curious as to how a car gets sign off. Who actually said "Yes that bug-eye is stunning, let's go with it"?
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:


Space Invader

73 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Twincam16 said:
Guvernator said:
I don't work in any sort of design capacity but I am really curious as to how a car gets sign off. Who actually said "Yes that bug-eye is stunning, let's go with it"?
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:

Rofl, really or are you pulling our legs?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Space Invader said:
Twincam16 said:
Guvernator said:
I don't work in any sort of design capacity but I am really curious as to how a car gets sign off. Who actually said "Yes that bug-eye is stunning, let's go with it"?
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:

Rofl, really or are you pulling our legs?
Seriously. He was interviewed in Classic Cars back in 2005. They were making a point about him still being on the go, and said 'I bet you didn't know that it was Mann behind the facelift of the Subaru Impreza'.

If the sketches on his desk that he was photographed with are anything to go by, he did the original BMW X3 as well.

big_rob_sydney

3,409 posts

195 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I just dont understand why Subaru have been so screwed up in their design department. It used to be, up till about the year 2000, that when you saw an Impreza, you just KNEW what it was. No if's, but's, or maybe's.

Then they introduced that POS bug eye model, and it all went down hill from there. Sales numbers of the WRX and STI fell through the floor, and no one wanted to know about them any more.

I have no problem with the fact that the cars were inherently stronger, but they packed on a ton of lard, and look like st.

And I have owned 4 imprezas, having bought a 2004 model STI, before going back to the classics (now a 22B).

Seriously, they ened to get some kind of serious design house, like Pininfarina, or Giugiaro, and start from scratch. WTF were they thinking with the previous TRIBECA???


Pretty much every car in the range has fallen out of the ugly tree, hit every branch on the way down, and then had the local blind dog take a comfort break on what was left, all over it.

SAndals

170 posts

175 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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deevlash said:



build this please!
WOOF!

Space Invader

73 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Twincam16 said:
Space Invader said:
Twincam16 said:
Guvernator said:
I don't work in any sort of design capacity but I am really curious as to how a car gets sign off. Who actually said "Yes that bug-eye is stunning, let's go with it"?
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:

Rofl, really or are you pulling our legs?
Seriously. He was interviewed in Classic Cars back in 2005. They were making a point about him still being on the go, and said 'I bet you didn't know that it was Mann behind the facelift of the Subaru Impreza'.

If the sketches on his desk that he was photographed with are anything to go by, he did the original BMW X3 as well.
That's a great Trivial Pursuit question, thanks. biggrin

Benjman

239 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Twincam16 said:
Guvernator said:
I don't work in any sort of design capacity but I am really curious as to how a car gets sign off. Who actually said "Yes that bug-eye is stunning, let's go with it"?
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:

If so, he should be shot for "aestetical crime". Not only for the bug eye but also for the squared steering wheel Allegro furious

But anyway, the new design Subaru want to go is definately the wrong way. Go back to the 22B and find a proper succesor for this. Make it handle well with a fair load of driver aids and security and sell shiplouds to a reasonable price.

And don't forget the coupe...

Mr_Sukebe

377 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Surely someone has posted a picture of the next generation Astra?

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

181 months

Friday 16th July 2010
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I love it! Much better than the current Impreza...

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Friday 16th July 2010
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Snoggledog said:
When are the Nips going to realise that they have a long and highly successful history of creating bland unimaginative boxes, punctuated by the odd (very rare) design jewel?
Probably around the same time as people grow up and stop calling them "Nips".

RTH

1,057 posts

213 months

Friday 16th July 2010
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Benjman said:
Twincam16 said:
Guvernator] quote said:
It's a little-known fact, but the man who designed the 'bug-eye' Impreza was Harris Mann.

He has form:

If so, he should be shot for "aestetical crime". Not only for the bug eye but also for the squared steering wheel Allegro furious



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The Quartic steering wheel only lasted for the first 9 months of production in 1973 and a round wheel was a free retro fit for anyone who wanted one
The two door 1750 SS was not a bad car apart from the boiled egg exterior styling and the utilitarian interior.