Show us your crash pics!!

[DS197]

Is there anything the elderly or fatties can do right. Anyway, not my car but one I saw waiting at the lights. No idea where the car it hit went though.

[DoubleSix]

stackmonkey said:

So, this is my crash from the end of May.

I went for a 2 car overtake and one of the cars I was passing decided to turn right , just I was coming alongside, without having (visibly to me anyway) indicated or braked.
I swerved to avoid and went through (yes, through) a telegraph pole, which duly landed on my roof.

I walked out with just a large bump on my head from hitting the windscreen. no whiplash, no airbag burns, no seatbelt bruising, not a scratch.
Car was a Cat B write-off.

So you were overtaking at a junction?

Really?

[Bonefish Blues]

DoubleSix said:

So you were overtaking at a junction?

Really?

I left that moot, but the thought had occurred...

[GC8]

I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.

[DoubleSix]

GC8 said:

I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.

Whatever pal. If there were drive ways, turn offs or any potential of a car either needing to exit or enter the carriageway the manouvre is OFF. You wait.

[GC8]

Congratulations on reaching 6,999 posts. I hope that your 7,000th post will be a little more worthwhile.

[DoubleSix]

[TheInternet]

GC8 said:

Congratulations on reaching 6,999 posts. I hope that your 7,000th post will be a little more worthwhile.

DoubleSix said:

Edited by TheInternet on Monday 3rd August 20:24

[DoubleSix]

TheInternet said:

DoubleSix said:

[anonymous-user]

I almost asked the same thing (overtaking at a junction), but in the end just thought I couldn't be bothered with the discussion.

[Pebbles167]

DoubleSix said:

So you were overtaking at a junction?

Really?

An easy mistake to make on a straight road, if you're not thinking.

I did it on a bike, and the result nearly cost me my life.

[BigTom85]

Oops.

On the plus side, I didn't have to wait long for medical attention

[mustdash]

BigTom85 said:

Oops.

On the plus side, I didn't have to wait long for medical attention

Straight through the ambulance windscreen on to the stretcher in the back?

[Funkstar De Luxe]

Have I posted here before? My one and only (so far).

[monthefish]

GC8 said:

I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.

I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)

Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.

[blugnu]

monthefish said:

I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)

Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.

Do you mean this one?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-19410...

I can't find any reference to it not being a proper layby - although I can find reference to the car that was hit indicating.

I have no idea why you imagine the overtaking car must have been alongside the car being overtaken for "a good few seconds" - that's not at all what happened, not is it a scenario that is likely to result in a MPV with four people in it being flipped.

[monthefish]

blugnu said:

monthefish said:

I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)

Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.

Do you mean this one?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-19410...

I can't find any reference to it not being a proper layby - although I can find reference to the car that was hit indicating.

I have no idea why you imagine the overtaking car must have been alongside the car being overtaken for "a good few seconds" - that's not at all what happened, not is it a scenario that is likely to result in a MPV with four people in it being flipped.

Yes, that one.

From the earlier BBC report

""The defendant was driving in the same direction as Mrs Griffith but two cars behind her," he added.
"He had become impatient, travelling behind two slower vehicles and tried to overtake both of them. Because he did that he struck Mrs Griffith as she was carrying out her right-hand turn."

If he was overtaking more than one vehicle, it stands to reason that he would have been visible in the wing mirror of the front vehicle for a sufficiently long period of time for her to have noticed, had she bothered to check properly. Mirror-signal-manoeuvre.

In the thread at the time, the exact location was linked (google streetview) and the layby wasn't an obvious one that you might expect a car might pull into.

Anyway, I don't wish to derail this thread. The point is that these things aren't always as clear cut as some might think, and this incident was very tragic, I think the lady driver had some level of culpability for not checking her mirror before completing her manoeuvre.

Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 4th August 19:04

[DoubleSix]

monthefish said:

GC8 said:

I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.

I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)

Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.

Poster is welcome to pop in and correct me but I'll take what has been written at face value until given reason to do otherwise. It doesn't read well.

[Swampy1982]

BigTom85 said:

Oops.

On the plus side, I didn't have to wait long for medical attention

Give us the story.. Go on....

[BigTom85]

Swampy1982 said:

Give us the story.. Go on....

I was following a black Volvo, and in the distance the ambulance was coming towards us whilst overtaking. It was so far in the distance it wasn't a problem, but the Volvo disagreed and did an emergency stop, completely unnecessarily. By the time I'd realised he was braking hard I locked up and binned it, slid down the road for a bit and ended up hitting the ambulance. Luckily I'd parted from the bike and didn't get run over by oncoming traffic.

I wish I'd gone into the back of the Volvo instead. I was genuinely following at a safe distance and speed, I just didn't expect him to be stopping so hard, and I was probably looking more at the ambulance than him. Regardless, I have to hold my hands up and take it on the chin.

Bike was a write off, I broke some ribs and my elbow.

I was very grateful the ambulance didn't have a casualty onboard!

Its put me right off biking though for the forseeable.