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monthefish said:
GC8 said:
I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.
I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)
Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.
BigTom85 said:
I was following a black Volvo, and in the distance the ambulance was coming towards us whilst overtaking. It was so far in the distance it wasn't a problem, but the Volvo disagreed and did an emergency stop, completely unnecessarily. By the time I'd realised he was braking hard I locked up and binned it, slid down the road for a bit and ended up hitting the ambulance. Luckily I'd parted from the bike and didn't get run over by oncoming traffic.
I wish I'd gone into the back of the Volvo instead. I was genuinely following at a safe distance and speed, I just didn't expect him to be stopping so hard, and I was probably looking more at the ambulance than him. Regardless, I have to hold my hands up and take it on the chin.
Bike was a write off, I broke some ribs and my elbow.
I was very grateful the ambulance didn't have a casualty onboard!
Its put me right off biking though for the forseeable.
Well, the outcome would suggest that you weren't genuinely following at a safe distance and speed. To trot out the well-worn cliché, what if a child/dog/cat/pheasant had ran out into the road in front of the Volvo?I wish I'd gone into the back of the Volvo instead. I was genuinely following at a safe distance and speed, I just didn't expect him to be stopping so hard, and I was probably looking more at the ambulance than him. Regardless, I have to hold my hands up and take it on the chin.
Bike was a write off, I broke some ribs and my elbow.
I was very grateful the ambulance didn't have a casualty onboard!
Its put me right off biking though for the forseeable.
I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
BigTom85 said:
I was following a black Volvo, and in the distance the ambulance was coming towards us whilst overtaking. It was so far in the distance it wasn't a problem, but the Volvo disagreed and did an emergency stop, completely unnecessarily. By the time I'd realised he was braking hard I locked up and binned it, slid down the road for a bit and ended up hitting the ambulance. Luckily I'd parted from the bike and didn't get run over by oncoming traffic.
I wish I'd gone into the back of the Volvo instead. I was genuinely following at a safe distance and speed, I just didn't expect him to be stopping so hard, and I was probably looking more at the ambulance than him. Regardless, I have to hold my hands up and take it on the chin.
Bike was a write off, I broke some ribs and my elbow.
I was very grateful the ambulance didn't have a casualty onboard!
Its put me right off biking though for the forseeable.
That's not as comical as I'd hoped, hope you recovered well. Don't let it put you off, sI wish I'd gone into the back of the Volvo instead. I was genuinely following at a safe distance and speed, I just didn't expect him to be stopping so hard, and I was probably looking more at the ambulance than him. Regardless, I have to hold my hands up and take it on the chin.
Bike was a write off, I broke some ribs and my elbow.
I was very grateful the ambulance didn't have a casualty onboard!
Its put me right off biking though for the forseeable.
t happens, you've just got to crack onFazerBoy said:
Well, the outcome would suggest that you weren't genuinely following at a safe distance and speed. To trot out the well-worn cliché, what if a child/dog/cat/pheasant had ran out into the road in front of the Volvo?
I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
I'd suggest broken ribs and elbow are the only road safety lessons really needed in this case....I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
My Impreza went from this
to this 2 months ago.
The car I hit crossed my path to go into a junction on my side of the road. I was going along and 2 cars were sitting in the opposite lane waiting to go in the junction at my side of the road. The first went which was a little risky so I backed off a bit but then the second car followed without looking and there was not an awful lot I could do. I estimate I hit him at around 40-50 mph and spun him right back around to his side of the road. The first car didn't stop, so no witnesses. Result is that my car was a cat c write off and I had 2 broken bones in my hand. Other side initially tried to blame me
but has now admitted full liability.
to this 2 months ago.
The car I hit crossed my path to go into a junction on my side of the road. I was going along and 2 cars were sitting in the opposite lane waiting to go in the junction at my side of the road. The first went which was a little risky so I backed off a bit but then the second car followed without looking and there was not an awful lot I could do. I estimate I hit him at around 40-50 mph and spun him right back around to his side of the road. The first car didn't stop, so no witnesses. Result is that my car was a cat c write off and I had 2 broken bones in my hand. Other side initially tried to blame me
but has now admitted full liability.FazerBoy said:
Well, the outcome would suggest that you weren't genuinely following at a safe distance and speed. To trot out the well-worn cliché, what if a child/dog/cat/pheasant had ran out into the road in front of the Volvo?
I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
I was following at a safe distance. I take my driving/riding seriously and have taken measures to improve, e.g. IAM 12 years ago and other training since - indeed one of the reasons for doing my bike test was to gain more experience and develop skills etc.I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
BigTom85 said:
FazerBoy said:
Well, the outcome would suggest that you weren't genuinely following at a safe distance and speed. To trot out the well-worn cliché, what if a child/dog/cat/pheasant had ran out into the road in front of the Volvo?
I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
I was following at a safe distance. I take my driving/riding seriously and have taken measures to improve, e.g. IAM 12 years ago and other training since - indeed one of the reasons for doing my bike test was to gain more experience and develop skills etc.I'm really not trying to provoke an argument here, and it's very possible that most of us would have been just as close to the Volvo, but this just shows that lessons can be learned and a safe distance should take this type of idiotic manoeuvre into account.
Was the Volvo driver wearing a hat by the way?
My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
I've been riding bikes for 32 years and I'm still learning...
BigTom85 said:
I was following at a safe distance. I take my driving/riding seriously and have taken measures to improve, e.g. IAM 12 years ago and other training since - indeed one of the reasons for doing my bike test was to gain more experience and develop skills etc.
My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
Fair play, live and learn ey?My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
stackmonkey said:
monthefish said:
GC8 said:
I think that comment/judgement should be reserved until you are in possession of all of the facts. Through an obvious hazard, you're culpable. Into a driveway it is far from as clear-cut as people infer.
I'm reminded of the chap who overtook 2 (or 3) cars in Wales(?) but the lead car suddenly turned right into a vague layby and the collision resulted in that car being punted off the road into a reservoir and unfortunately there were fatalities. Overtaker was jailed which seemed harsh, as the layby wasn't a proper layby, and the overtaker must've been alongside the overtakee cars for a good few seconds prior to impact (and therefore visible in the lead car's mirrors had the driver bothered to check before making the manoeuvre.)
Of course you need to anticipate potential hazzards, but there is a limit to how far your imagination could/should go.
BBC said:
Earlier the trial heard that James Denham and his brother William were passengers in a car travelling immediately behind Mrs Griffith's Peugeot.
The jury was shown a video of an interview with James Denham, who was 16 at the time.
He said: "As we were coming downhill, the car in front of us indicated right.
"Dad saw this and braked, but the car behind us went to overtake. It made contact with the car in front, which was half in the road.
If that's true, the lead car was signalling before he started his overtake.The jury was shown a video of an interview with James Denham, who was 16 at the time.
He said: "As we were coming downhill, the car in front of us indicated right.
"Dad saw this and braked, but the car behind us went to overtake. It made contact with the car in front, which was half in the road.
BigTom85 said:
I was following at a safe distance. I take my driving/riding seriously and have taken measures to improve, e.g. IAM 12 years ago and other training since - indeed one of the reasons for doing my bike test was to gain more experience and develop skills etc.
My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
Nearly had a similar incident this morning. Following some way behind a new Golf R, could see a tractor approaching around a light bend ahead but the road is very wide. Golf R disappears around the light bend and has then near emergency stopped for the tractor despite there being enough room to fit another tractor through the gap let alone a Golf. Hammered home how quickly a safe distance can very quickly become an unsafe distance.My attention was distracted by the luminous yellow and green thing with flashing blue disco lights and sirens blazing etc that was approaching. Concentrating on that for too long was my failing, and not anticipating the Volvo anchoring down to the extent he did, as well as my lack of motorcycle control having only passed my bike test a few months prior, no abs etc etc.
No idea if he was wearing a hat. He hung around only long enough to ask the paramedic if I was dead or not apparently.
Anyway, my contribution, not a crash as such, but it could have been a very messy car if the golf club I was at didn't have a CO2 extinguisher to hand...
Had a rather unfortunate one with my old Clio 197!
Heading along a country lane about 30 seconds from my house, pissing it down with rain - not doing any more than 40 at the time. All of a sudden the car goes completely sideways - I'm sitting in 6th and there's bugger all torque at the best of times so there's no chance of pulling out of it. Whilst trying to get it back under control I slam the right side into a fence post.. unfortunately a car was coming from the opposite direction. Thankfully they moved out of the way with plenty of time to spare, although their front wing just clipped my rear bumper (they were fine and drove home after all said and done.. company car! ). Bloody scary though when you see headlights coming towards you..
Anyway, car ended up sideways in the middle of the road. Strangely the left side rear wheel was off the car when it stopped. Despite it not hitting anything! There were no pot holes or any of that fun stuff either. The police investigation found an awful lot of mud on the road (another car actually crashed in the same spot whilst the road was shut, doing no more than 20mph!, bloody tractors and their mud..).
For some reason I decided to buy another 197 after that!
and the new one..
Heading along a country lane about 30 seconds from my house, pissing it down with rain - not doing any more than 40 at the time. All of a sudden the car goes completely sideways - I'm sitting in 6th and there's bugger all torque at the best of times so there's no chance of pulling out of it. Whilst trying to get it back under control I slam the right side into a fence post.. unfortunately a car was coming from the opposite direction. Thankfully they moved out of the way with plenty of time to spare, although their front wing just clipped my rear bumper (they were fine and drove home after all said and done.. company car! ). Bloody scary though when you see headlights coming towards you..
Anyway, car ended up sideways in the middle of the road. Strangely the left side rear wheel was off the car when it stopped. Despite it not hitting anything! There were no pot holes or any of that fun stuff either. The police investigation found an awful lot of mud on the road (another car actually crashed in the same spot whilst the road was shut, doing no more than 20mph!, bloody tractors and their mud..).
For some reason I decided to buy another 197 after that!
and the new one..
Boydie88 said:
Nearly had a similar incident this morning. Following some way behind a new Golf R, could see a tractor approaching around a light bend ahead but the road is very wide. Golf R disappears around the light bend and has then near emergency stopped for the tractor despite there being enough room to fit another tractor through the gap let alone a Golf. Hammered home how quickly a safe distance can very quickly become an unsafe distance.
Anyway, my contribution, not a crash as such, but it could have been a very messy car if the golf club I was at didn't have a CO2 extinguisher to hand...
Blimey!Anyway, my contribution, not a crash as such, but it could have been a very messy car if the golf club I was at didn't have a CO2 extinguisher to hand...
Having witnessed a car fire at the weekend it really put my heart in my mouth. I must get extinguishers for the cars.
My "darling daughter" had a lovely low mileage first car (less than 9k miles on it) last year....
Took her only 3 months to do this....
So now she has a £350 2001 Mazda 323 with 81k on the clock to travel around in...
When asked she did finally admit it was too much speed and too little talent that took her off the road !!
Took her only 3 months to do this....
So now she has a £350 2001 Mazda 323 with 81k on the clock to travel around in...
When asked she did finally admit it was too much speed and too little talent that took her off the road !!
My effort; commuting to the farm around 7am on little roads (two cars wide just). Came round a longish corner about a mile from my house with an odd junction on it to meet someone on my side of the road (heading off the junction but had moved over really early), I swerved to the opposite side in an attempt to miss her, but so did she. I think that had she carried on we'd have *just* missed - but natural reactions and all. All ok thankfully, I was pretty sore the next day! She admitted all responsibility and said she hadn't checked it was clear. Like me she'd driven that road for years!! Clio did pretty well considering! Roof off hers because she had chest pains (bruising).
Dr Interceptor said:
Ouch! Glad she was okay, those trees a solid things.
Little Ka looks like it held up pretty well.
She was lucky Little Ka looks like it held up pretty well.
Engine had shifted back about 6 inches, and dashboard hit her knees, leaving a couple of minor scars, but overall the Ka held out well. She'd have been doing around 45mph when she lost control on that particular road, clearly a fair bit slower when she went over in to the trees. Although another 40 feet and she'd have been in the river Wye...LiamB said:
Aaaand the Juke is dead. Was coming from the left side of the round a bout you can see in the picture, and a car entered from my left while I was on it without even looking and I pit manoeuvred him into the wall. Which the woman had only just got finished that day.. she was fuming!
Sorry to hear it ? Take it you ok? Hopefully it'll all be sorted out quickly
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