Accelera tyres - worth avoiding??
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EP Tyres, who produce the Accelera brand, also make Continental tyres under license for far-eastern and southern hemisphere OEM supply. There'll be those who say that doesn't make a difference and they are still ditchfinders because that's just the way things are, but I'll let the more intelligent people work out for themselves what effect that will have on the general quality and value of the product.
Incidentally, some of the EP manufactured Continentals make it back here on the grey market (they'll say 'Made in Indonesia' on them) or even on production line cars, and the Accelera Phi uses (almost) the same tread pattern as the Conti Sport Contact 2. Some folks at Continental are not too happy about people knowing about the association though.
Edited to add - seems that Conti have discontinued their licensing deal with EP and are now going it alone in Indonesia.
Incidentally, some of the EP manufactured Continentals make it back here on the grey market (they'll say 'Made in Indonesia' on them) or even on production line cars, and the Accelera Phi uses (almost) the same tread pattern as the Conti Sport Contact 2. Some folks at Continental are not too happy about people knowing about the association though.
Edited to add - seems that Conti have discontinued their licensing deal with EP and are now going it alone in Indonesia.
Edited by r11co on Friday 5th October 17:00
carreauchompeur said:
Wouldn't bother, personally. My M3 was fitted with a nearly new pair of Acceleras on the rear when I bought it and the handling was appalling. Popped a set of Contisports on the rear and the difference was genuinely staggering.
Yes. I'm sure spending money made your perception of the handling much better.
sparks_E39 said:
r11co said:
Yes. I'm sure spending money made your perception of the handling much better.
I'm not imagining the difference it made to mine. 1. Braking, in the wet 12 metres further (42m compared with 30m from 50mph!), in dry 5 metres further (41m vs 36m from 60mph). That's a bit scary.
2. Lap times. In the wet, 55sec compared with leading 47secs. In the dry it was all very close - which you'd really hope for!
So as per usual, in the wet the budget option really suffers.
Dan Friel said:
This tyre was included in the EVO tyre test from earlier in the year.. As compared to the Continental Sport, the results were:
Perhaps I'm not making myself clear enough. Currently on the open market you could buy a Continental Sport Contact 2 and receive a tyre that came off the Accelera Phi production line with a Continental badge (officially) on the side (the likelihood diminishing in the future).Oh, and the Evo test compared the Contact 3 to the Phi, which is a generation of tyre later.
And any test which introduces 'subjectivity' as a criteria and, worse, tries to quantify it in a attempt to make it appear scientific, should be discounted immediately on the grounds that subjectivity and fair testing are oxymorons.
Subjectivity in laymans terms means tester's bias.
r11co said:
On the open market you could buy a Continental Sport Contact 2 and receive a tyre that came off the Accelera Phi production line with a Continental badge (officially) on the side.
"could" or "will"??Show me some evidence that any budget tyre can compete (especially in the wet) with any leading or mid-range tyre and then perhaps people will take an interest.
r11co said:
Yes. I'm sure spending money made your perception of the handling much better.
What a stupid comment. I'm well aware of the placebo effect and confirmation bias but they were noticeably miles better. An objective comparison of corners where the Acceleras would step out and, at the same speed, the Contisports did not...The Contisports were part worns too, and despite the naysaying they are still magnificent- and the car hasn't spontaneously combusted!
t...r11co said:
Dan Friel said:
This tyre was included in the EVO tyre test from earlier in the year.. As compared to the Continental Sport, the results were:
And any test which introduces 'subjectivity' as a criteria and, worse, tries to quantify it in a attempt to make it appear scientific, should be discounted immediately on the grounds that subjectivity and fair testing are oxymorons.Subjectivity in laymans terms means tester's bias.
r11co said:
Perhaps I'm not making myself clear enough. Currently on the open market you could buy a Continental Sport Contact 2 and receive a tyre that came off the Accelera Phi production line with a Continental badge (officially) on the side (the likelihood diminishing in the future).
So they are the exact same tyres, same carcass, same rubber compound, except one has Accelera written on the side instead of Continental?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff