RS200, behind the scenes

RS200, behind the scenes

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K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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hmm... this is all getting a bit cliquey, hows about dialing back the subterfuge a little eh?

fttm

3,691 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Next thing you know it'll be about Metro 6r4's leaving through the back gate . Not guilty M'lord judge

Eski1991

1,113 posts

134 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Please forgive me for my herecy, but am I the only one who doesn't really like this car.

From an engineering and performance standpoint, yes I see the appeal, but for close to £100,000 there's much, much better to be had surely?

aeropilot

34,654 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Eski1991 said:
but for close to £100,000 there's much, much better to be had surely?
Define better..?

When buying weekend use old cars (using the term old loosely here) buying 'better' isn't usually the point, you are usually buying your most affordable dream car, not an everyday car or some expensive posing-mobile.


FussyFez

972 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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aeropilot said:
Define better..?

When buying weekend use old cars (using the term old loosely here) buying 'better' isn't usually the point, you are usually buying your most affordable dream car, not an everyday car or some expensive posing-mobile.
This, if it was my 100k that I had earn and saved, chances are it would go on somthing else. But on a lottery win, this would be very high my list, top 3.

FussyFez

972 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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aeropilot said:
Define better..?

When buying weekend use old cars (using the term old loosely here) buying 'better' isn't usually the point, you are usually buying your most affordable dream car, not an everyday car or some expensive posing-mobile.
This, if it was my 100k that I had earn and saved, chances are it would go on somthing else. But on a lottery win, this would be very high my list, top 3.

FussyFez

972 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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aeropilot said:
Define better..?

When buying weekend use old cars (using the term old loosely here) buying 'better' isn't usually the point, you are usually buying your most affordable dream car, not an everyday car or some expensive posing-mobile.
This, if it was my 100k that I had earn and saved, chances are it would go on somthing else. But on a lottery win, this would be very high my list, top 3.

the ronin

1,056 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Me old ride... wink

KingNothing

3,168 posts

154 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Eski1991 said:
Please forgive me for my herecy, but am I the only one who doesn't really like this car.

From an engineering and performance standpoint, yes I see the appeal, but for close to £100,000 there's much, much better to be had surely?
Me too, I just don't get them.

aeropilot

34,654 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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KingNothing said:
Eski1991 said:
Please forgive me for my herecy, but am I the only one who doesn't really like this car.

From an engineering and performance standpoint, yes I see the appeal, but for close to £100,000 there's much, much better to be had surely?
Me too, I just don't get them.
Why are you even looking at a thread about them then, let alone posting in it rolleyes


andygo

6,804 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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aeropilot said:
Nah, Ford had pulled the trick with the Escort Twin Cam in 1968 with less than 20 completed cars but with lots of ermine white 1300's fitted with rostyle wheels parked up in adjacent car parks smile
Are you sure about that? I only ask as my Dad had a new pre production twin cam in 1968. He used it in the Players No. 6 (cigarette) Autocross Championship. It cost him £1100. He flogged it as the struts were coming through the inner wings which were not plated like a true type 49 shell.

It was supplied via Bill Allen (F1's James Allen's dad). http://www.racingsportscars.com/driver/Bill-Allen-...


12v3pot

5,135 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Eski1991 said:
Please forgive me for my herecy, but am I the only one who doesn't really like this car.

From an engineering and performance standpoint, yes I see the appeal, but for close to £100,000 there's much, much better to be had surely?
Why didn't you like it - how did it drive, and where was it lacking?

If you're just saying "meh" on its looks, rather dated spec and your limited budget (mine, too, BTW), then you can do the same for Stratos, SWB Quattro, 037, Lotus Cortina, etc. The prices of all of these reflect their rarity* and their place in racing history. These are no mass-produced R8 (to pluck a current £100k example out of the air).

* yet another example, where something that was hard to sell when new eventually ends up being worth the investment

KingNothing

3,168 posts

154 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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aeropilot said:
Why are you even looking at a thread about them then, let alone posting in it rolleyes
binned

I didn't realise posts in a discussion forum, only had to present one side of a topic.

Edited by KingNothing on Sunday 15th September 19:11


Edited by Gaz. on Sunday 15th September 23:59

AAGR

918 posts

162 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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the ronin said:


Me old ride... wink
Why is this car carrying a NACA duct ahead of the rear wheel when there is no need for fresh air to be channelled in to the engine bay at that point ? The engine intercooler, for instance, is on the roof, behind the cabin, and the engine cooling radiator is up front ....

storminnorman

2,357 posts

153 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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AAGR said:
the ronin said:


Me old ride... wink
Why is this car carrying a NACA duct ahead of the rear wheel when there is no need for fresh air to be channelled in to the engine bay at that point ? The engine intercooler, for instance, is on the roof, behind the cabin, and the engine cooling radiator is up front ....
The poster of said car is not known for keeping his vehicles standard, and I would suggest the NACA duct is not the only change he made. Hopefully he'll come back and enlighten us in his inimitable manner!

Small Car

877 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Johnnytheboy said:
This thread has resurfaced just as I got to another handful of RS200 pics in my long term project of scanning old photos on to my PC. These were taken shortly after my father took delivery of his red one as a company car.

Couldn't quite believe the car was fitted with a phone but sure enough the aerial is there. Wow wow wow.

I have a few stories about the RS200, which as a kid I was obsessed with.

A local van hire guy in south Wales had two. One for rallying with, and one for the road. He rallied on the Welsh before they were banned, and ran course car a few other times after. I got to sit In one and it was immense. The road car never saw light of day and was lost I recall, once the guy went bust. He ran JC Van Hire if any of you were / are from the Valleys?

s m

23,236 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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storminnorman said:
AAGR said:
the ronin said:


Me old ride... wink
Why is this car carrying a NACA duct ahead of the rear wheel when there is no need for fresh air to be channelled in to the engine bay at that point ? The engine intercooler, for instance, is on the roof, behind the cabin, and the engine cooling radiator is up front ....
The poster of said car is not known for keeping his vehicles standard, and I would suggest the NACA duct is not the only change he made. Hopefully he'll come back and enlighten us in his inimitable manner!
Reading back it was actually cooling for the fuel pumps rather than brakes

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Great thread, most informative!

fttm

3,691 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Small Car said:
Couldn't quite believe the car was fitted with a phone but sure enough the aerial is there. Wow wow wow.

I have a few stories about the RS200, which as a kid I was obsessed with.

A local van hire guy in south Wales had two. One for rallying with, and one for the road. He rallied on the Welsh before they were banned, and ran course car a few other times after. I got to sit In one and it was immense. The road car never saw light of day and was lost I recall, once the guy went bust. He ran JC Van Hire if any of you were / are from the Valleys?
Jeff Churchill ,also used to run some tasty RS1800's on hire . His RS200 was somewhat restricted compared to the Group B cars .

kVA

2,460 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Only just seen this and it is awesome - thanks for sharing...

Am proud to say I was involved in a small way with the design of this car... As an undergraduate engineer at Ford, I managed to blag a work experience slot at Boreham (was told it had never been done before?), just at the time the RS1700T was shelved (got to drive one around the track biggrin ) and the RS200 was under development...

The aerodynamic cooling scoop on the bonnet was my idea - to suck air through the rads, rather than RAM air through, like the Manta 400, at the time... thumbup

Brilliant to see this bit of the story....