RE: SOTW: Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6

RE: SOTW: Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6

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The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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It's going in a Dax Rush - certainly should be fun smile
There's a link in my profile for the terminally bored.

Peppka

108 posts

191 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Too right RX couldn't keep up in a straightline let alone round corners Q2 diff makes all the difference without you get wheelspin in the dry in first at part throttle in the wet can be tricky in second. Q2 diff cures it completely.

Ali_T said:
Oilchange said:
The twinnie does but then so does a mates S2000 and another mates RX8. In fact if you don't watch those rotaries they will drink it dry! Then BANG
The difference being that rotaries deliberately use oil to lubricate the rotor seals, Alfas just use it for fun. Anyone allowing an RX8 to drink itself dry is a moron that didn't pay attention to either the handbook or the hand over talk that dealer's give and deserves their fate. As for the S2000, none I've come across use oil at all. Some K20s, my own old EP3 Civic Type R included, would use oil in the first few thousand miles but Hondas are generally very goo don that front. My current Impreza hasn't used a drop of oil between services in 18 months, despite having twice the bhp of the featured car.

Peppka said:
Too right RX8 couldn't even begin to keep up with my V6 GTV especially as just had Q2 diff fitted.
Really? Because both of mine (a 230 and a PZ) would happily keep up with 147 and 156 GTAs in a straight line and piss all over them at the first sign of a corner. Don't get me wrong, I love Alfas and had one years ago (which is why I've never owned two, of course) but modern Alfas hardly drive well and offer scant compensation for the reliability issues, design flaws, poor dealers and factory build quality equivalent of a 3 year old doing Jenga. The latest design direction even robs of them of the lovely styling, with the MiTo, in particular, being a horrific abortion of a car which is made worse when you realise it's based on the Grande Punto, one of the best looking small cars in the past 30 years. Like most past Alfa owners, I'd love to have another one. My 33 P4 was a pile of crap, yet the hankering still lingers. But we are constantly told, "this timewe've got it right" and they never do. Hell, they said that about the 156......and the 33 for that matter.

Andrew_M

1,111 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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No thanks eek

K50 DEL

9,241 posts

229 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Had a W plate 156 2.5 V6 as a my first company car back in 2001 - it was by far the quickest thing I'd driven at that time, and although it had been bought with no rear spoiler (never understood why anyone would do that) and green cord style interior (again, why not leather) I loved that car.

The fuel economy wasn't great but the sound and the ambiance made up for that. It never broke down on me and was only replaced when it got to 90k miles.

I'd have another 156 V6 in a hearbeat if I was in the market for that kind of car.

Rawhide

964 posts

214 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Whats the view on the diesel engines in the 156? My mate has been inspired to get a 156 from this thread and I'm pushing him at the 2.5 V6 but he is tempted by diesel 'reliability'

Wolands Advocate

2,495 posts

217 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.

But I think the 2.4jtd was relatively rated in its day?

Andrew_M

1,111 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Wolands Advocate said:
A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.
yes

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Andrew_M said:
Wolands Advocate said:
A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.
yes
Interesting. So I should have gone for the 120bhp petrol 147 instead of the 170bhp diesel?

Andrew_M

1,111 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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jamieboy said:
Andrew_M said:
Wolands Advocate said:
A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.
yes
Interesting. So I should have gone for the 120bhp petrol 147 instead of the 170bhp diesel?
I would have gone for anything else but an Alfa.

Wolands Advocate

2,495 posts

217 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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jamieboy said:
Andrew_M said:
Wolands Advocate said:
A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.
yes
Interesting. So I should have gone for the 120bhp petrol 147 instead of the 170bhp diesel?
Power isn't everything. Although, if it is, there is a GTA version is there not? Now that has a proper Alfa engine.

Each to their own, but for me Alfas need either a zingy 4-cylinder petrol or a lusty six-pot petrol. I remember being unexpectedly impressed by the characterfulness of the engine in a 156 1.8TS Veloce I drove once.

Not that I'd complain about the Montreal's V8 though...or the one in the 8C...

Edited by Wolands Advocate on Tuesday 20th July 16:04

carinaman

21,334 posts

173 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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The Black Flash,

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0...

What Alfa bell housing did you use, and what gearbox is that?

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Wolands Advocate said:
jamieboy said:
Andrew_M said:
Wolands Advocate said:
A diesel Alfa just seems wrong.
yes
Interesting. So I should have gone for the 120bhp petrol 147 instead of the 170bhp diesel?
Power isn't everything.
Absolutely, but 40% more power + a standard-fit LSD make a compelling case.

Wolands Advocate said:
Although, if it is, there is a GTA version is there not? Now that has a proper Alfa engine.

Each to their own, but for me Alfas need either a zingy 4-cylinder petrol or a lusty six-pot petrol. I remember being unexpectedly impressed by the characterfulness of the engine in a 156 1.8TS Veloce I drove once.

Not that I'd complain about the Montreal's V8 though...or the one in the 8C...
There's something to appreciate about all of them - from the boxer in my old 33, the 1.6 TS in the old 147, through the various V6s (the 12v 2.5 in my GTV6 being my favourite), and the diesels have their place. smile

N.B. Some of my Alfas haven't even been red. redface

Wolands Advocate

2,495 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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jamieboy said:
N.B. Some of my Alfas haven't even been red. redface
I've only had the one and it was black....

Really shows the dirt....




Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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The Black Flash said:
It's going in a Dax Rush - certainly should be fun smile
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K50 DEL said:
and although it had been bought with no rear spoiler (never understood why anyone would do that)
Is it just me that dislikes the rear spoiler option on a 156 saloon?

Wolands Advocate said:
I've only had the one and it was black....

Really shows the dirt....
Splendid work. First class. I suspect the bloke in the supermarket carpark charged more than the usual to wash that one...

dylan0451

1,040 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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sc4589 said:
This should cover it.

Wanted one of these for years now. Never plucked up the courage to buy one...
when that was pushed closest to redline, it actually just made me shiver smile

damn it, i'm supposed to be turbo'ing an mx5, why the feck am i looking at how the bank balance could fund a sorted, low mileage 156 gta q2?!

anyone? test drove the OH's gtv ts when she bought it, other than that never been near one. for some reason i feel compelled to sell her to fund the alfa itch scratchchin

Edited by dylan0451 on Wednesday 21st July 23:41

RicksAlfas

13,412 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Mr E said:
Is it just me that dislikes the rear spoiler option on a 156 saloon?
No, me too. Hideous.

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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RicksAlfas said:
Mr E said:
Is it just me that dislikes the rear spoiler option on a 156 saloon?
No, me too. Hideous.
Do you mean that horrible high wing?

I wouldn't buy a 156 with a wing.

Even the bodykit on the GTA is too much.


RicksAlfas

13,412 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Pat H said:
RicksAlfas said:
Mr E said:
Is it just me that dislikes the rear spoiler option on a 156 saloon?
No, me too. Hideous.
Do you mean that horrible high wing?

I wouldn't buy a 156 with a wing.

Even the bodykit on the GTA is too much.
I agree. I could live with the GTA bodykit because of everything else that goes with it, but the basic car is so elegant that stick on vents and wings really does it no favours.

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Pat H said:
RicksAlfas said:
Mr E said:
Is it just me that dislikes the rear spoiler option on a 156 saloon?
No, me too. Hideous.
Do you mean that horrible high wing?
Yes, the one that looks like it's the handle from a shopping trolley.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Another one of those misleading surveys about Alfas, this time from Which?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7903141/S...

Disgusting how all those owners and surveys are wrong. I blame the German electronics. And the past. And people who lie. Lots of them.