RE: Driven: Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG
Discussion
ureile said:
ganser said:
It needs to have oval tailpipes instead of those trapezoid ones. Otherwise great car. Probably have it fettled by Brabus though
In case you intend to drive your Merc for longer than a month,you should delete Brabus from your inner hard disk.
The question is how many will they sell in the UK with the higher tax brand? Most of the owners will be Hotels, CEO's or their companies and the odd over 60's entrepreneur. Ever seen one of these actually being driven fast? Ever likely to see one outside of London, Dubai, Moscow, New York, Miami, LA or Germany / Switzerland?
I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
belleair302 said:
The question is how many will they sell in the UK with the higher tax brand? Most of the owners will be Hotels, CEO's or their companies and the odd over 60's entrepreneur. Ever seen one of these actually being driven fast? Ever likely to see one outside of London, Dubai, Moscow, New York, Miami, LA or Germany / Switzerland?
I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
Tax bands in this country are very reasonable compared to the rest of Europe, they'll probably sell more here than they would in Ireland or Italy.I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
belleair302 said:
Ever seen one of these actually being driven fast? Ever likely to see one outside of London, Dubai, Moscow, New York, Miami, LA or Germany / Switzerland?
...have you ever seen a car in this country driven fast (legally) and off the track?- Thought not (and there are still more Ferraris in London than anywere else)These cars a desigend to crush continents, something people who own them usually do in a first class plane seat- however you can see thm driven fast on the more empty motorways in Europe
belleair302 said:
The question is how many will they sell in the UK with the higher tax brand? Most of the owners will be Hotels, CEO's or their companies and the odd over 60's entrepreneur. Ever seen one of these actually being driven fast? Ever likely to see one outside of London, Dubai, Moscow, New York, Miami, LA or Germany / Switzerland?
I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
Absolutely. I am sure it is beautifully enginerred, but would you buy one over a Rolls Royce, a Maserati, an Alpina B7, or a Bentley / Aston?
Nope thought not!!!
The only Rolls I like now are the old ones, and even regarding the new one it might be aimed at the same kind of wallet but, I don't believe it's aimed at quite the same kind of driver. The Maser now that IS nice, but I'll still take the Benz. The B7, nope, BM has lost it's magic for me lately, quite nice though. The Bentley is just too damned ugly. The Aston I feel the same about as the roller. Remember the 5.4 Supercharged V8 number, in red? Virage Vantage or something. That might make me think twice.
I'm a mobile engineer and hence see metal like this moving quickly all the time.
Mastodon2 said:
What's a 6.3L or a 5.5L biturbo engine like at legal speeds in the UK? barely ticking over in 4th gear at 70mph?
Not sure, but you might be surprised at it being shorter than you imagine because on a smaller scale I was surprised by my C43 being shorter geared than I expected - something like about 2500 rpm in 5th at 70mph. For a 300hp V8 in a compact saloon I would have thought it could get away with 500-700 rpm lower than that. I can't deny the shorter gearing helps the performance but even so the unrestricted top speed is apparently around 175mph.
Dagnut said:
Chris-R said:
Dagnut said:
I've some news for PH and Brits in general.. German beer is much much better..
Have you tried it at room temperature? Shocking... 
How is this relevant again?
On topic: I sooo want an utterly bonkers AMG (I'll own a C63 or the like one day though!).
braddo said:
Mastodon2 said:
What's a 6.3L or a 5.5L biturbo engine like at legal speeds in the UK? barely ticking over in 4th gear at 70mph?
Not sure, but you might be surprised at it being shorter than you imagine because on a smaller scale I was surprised by my C43 being shorter geared than I expected - something like about 2500 rpm in 5th at 70mph. For a 300hp V8 in a compact saloon I would have thought it could get away with 500-700 rpm lower than that. I can't deny the shorter gearing helps the performance but even so the unrestricted top speed is apparently around 175mph.LongLiveTazio said:
Dagnut said:
I've some news for PH and Brits in general.. German beer is much much better..
It's not. The variety is miniscule compared to Britain. You can walk into any supermarket now and have your pick of beers from around the world. Walk into a German establishment and if you're lucky there might be yet another Pils, this time from the land of Czech. The beer is fine but the range is miniscule. It's just Pils, Pils and Pils. I asked my German host if he'd ever tried any Belgian beers. Despite being a Pils-swiller he had no idea that they even particularly 'did' beers. I searched in vain but found nary a hint of Hoegaarden, Duvel, etc. Belgium! It's right next door and you don't import! Jesus wept.(Nice car.)
There is a wide variety of different types of German beers, such as:
* Top-fermenting beers
o Weizen/Weißbier — wheat beer 12-12.5° Plato, 5-5.6% ABV.
o Weizenbock — strong, dark, wheat beer. 16-17° Plato, 6.5-8% ABV.
o Roggenbier — a fairly dark beer made with rye, somewhat grainy flavour similar to bread, 4.5-6% ABV.
o Berliner Weisse — a pale, very sour, wheat beer brewed in Berlin. Usually drunk with the addition of fruit syrup. 9° Plato, 2.5-5% ABV.
o Leipziger Gose — an amber, very sour, wheat beer with an addition of salt brewed around Leipzig. It disappeared between 1966 and 1985, when it was revived by Lothar Goldhahn. 10-12° Plato, 4-5% ABV.
o Altbier — a dark amber, hoppy beer brewed around Düsseldorf and Lower Rhine. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.
o Kölsch — pale, light-bodied, beer which can only legally be brewed in the Cologne region. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.
* Bottom-fermenting beers
o Helles — a pale, malty lager from Bavaria of 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV
o Schwarzbier — a bottom-fermented, dark lager beer with a full, roasty, chocolatey flavor. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.
o Pilsener — a pale lager with a light body and a more prominent hop character. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV. By far the most popular style, with around two thirds of the market.
o Export — a pale lager brewed around Dortmund that is fuller, maltier and less hoppy than Pilsner. 12-12.5° Plato, 5-5.5% ABV. Germany's most popular style in the 1950s and 1960s, it's becoming increasingly rare.
o Spezial — a pale, full, bitter-sweet and delicately hopped lager. 13-13.5° Plato, 5.5-5.7% ABV.
o Dunkel — dark lager which comes in two main varieties: the sweetish, malty Munich style and the drier, hoppy Franconian style
o Rauchbier — usually dark in color and smoky in taste from the use of smoked malt. A speciality of the Bamberg region. 12-13° Plato, 5-5.5% ABV.
o Bock — an amber, heavy-bodied, bitter-sweet lager. 16-17° Plato, 6.5-7% ABV.
o Dunkler Bock — a strong, full-bodied lager darkened by high-coloured malts. 16-17° Plato, 6.5-7% ABV.
o Maibock — a pale, strong lager brewed in the Spring. 16-17° Plato, 6.5-7% ABV.
o Doppelbock — a very strong, very full-bodied lager darkened by high-coloured malts. 18-28° Plato, 8-12% ABV.
o Eisbock — a freeze distilled variation of Doppelbock. 18-28° Plato, 9-15% ABV.
o Märzen — medium body, malty lagers that come in pale, amber and dark varieties. 13-14° Plato, 5.2-6% ABV. The type of beer traditionally served at the Munich Oktoberfest.
Many of the kinds of beer are also available with the alcohol content reduced or added.
amg master said:
they should put the v12 amg that they use for the pagani zonda in the s65 amg.
They did. Back in 1997 and 1998. It was the S73 AMG, built on the w140 chassis. They also fitted the same motor to the SL73 AMG, built on the R129 chassis. Both were special order only with between 525 and 575bhp.
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