Murder by screw

[J4CKO]

Damn, I am going to get the builders of next doors extension for attempting to murder me, big screw in my tyre at the moment, swear its them.

[Marf]

Rusty Arches said:

Hmmmm, this might sort out the chav in his civic with that thinks it's fine to rag the nuts of it at 1 - 3AM nearly every day in a back to back terraced area.

[Vee]

Will a screw stay stuck to the road, upright, if a >1 tonne car goes over it ?

Very sad for the guy who died and friends who got injured but really hope this is not a group of his mates trying to shift blame.

[furtive]

Buzz word said:

I tried to look at the road on google maps but cant because of flash at work. The road is depicted on the map as a dual carridge way 'A' road. If the crash was truely at 80 and late at night I'm not even sure I think that is too silly on the face of it either. I cant see the road properly though but if that is the case I don't think thats racing even, I bet comuters do that.

It's a 40mph limit along that road

[Dupont666]

Vee said:

Will a screw stay stuck to the road, upright, if a >1 tonne car goes over it ?

Very sad for the guy who died and friends who got injured but really hope this is not a group of his mates trying to shift blame.

if they had used no more nails maybe but not that expanding foam... get mythbusters on the case

[sleep envy]

tegwin said:

To add to this somebody, obviously somebody who doesn't like street racing, took matters into their own hands when they did this

Yes self tapping screws glued to the roads. This is ultimately what caused this horrific crash, the chap had pulled up at the curb side and one of these lodged in his tire, apparently they are hollow screws to let the tyre down like a stinger.
As he drove off it blew his tire out causing the crash

I don't believe a word of that

that's a plasterboard mounting screw and they aren't hollow - there's no way in the world that could have acted like a stinger spike

[Munter]

Dupont666 said:

Vee said:

Will a screw stay stuck to the road, upright, if a >1 tonne car goes over it ?

Very sad for the guy who died and friends who got injured but really hope this is not a group of his mates trying to shift blame.

if they had used no more nails maybe but not that expanding foam... get mythbusters on the case

Unless that screw is about a foot tall thats not expanding foam. It's more like Gripfill or something.

[sleep envy]

it's gripfill

[Gun]

Was there more than one screw stuck to the road?

Edit: Ignore this, says in the first post there were screws stuck to the road.

Edited by Gun on Tuesday 17th August 13:04

[plasticpig]

Not convinced that the screws were put down on purpose. The reason I am not convinced is the Excel Exhibition Centre is being extended just up the road. Where tens of thousands of those fixings have been used. The stuff gluing it to the road could well be jointing compound or similar.

[freecar]

sleep envy said:

tegwin said:

To add to this somebody, obviously somebody who doesn't like street racing, took matters into their own hands when they did this

Yes self tapping screws glued to the roads. This is ultimately what caused this horrific crash, the chap had pulled up at the curb side and one of these lodged in his tire, apparently they are hollow screws to let the tyre down like a stinger.
As he drove off it blew his tire out causing the crash

I don't believe a word of that

that's a plasterboard mounting screw and they aren't hollow - there's no way in the world that could have acted like a stinger spike

Point of order, it is in fact a cavity wall fixing and is indeed hollow.

[sleep envy]

freecar said:

sleep envy said:

tegwin said:

To add to this somebody, obviously somebody who doesn't like street racing, took matters into their own hands when they did this

Yes self tapping screws glued to the roads. This is ultimately what caused this horrific crash, the chap had pulled up at the curb side and one of these lodged in his tire, apparently they are hollow screws to let the tyre down like a stinger.
As he drove off it blew his tire out causing the crash

I don't believe a word of that

that's a plasterboard mounting screw and they aren't hollow - there's no way in the world that could have acted like a stinger spike

Point of order, it is in fact a cavity wall fixing and is indeed hollow.

no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing

cavity wall fixings look like this

[kambites]

It's a plasterboard mounting thingie and they are hollow. It's designed to a conventional screw screwed down the middle.



Whether the hollow cavity is open at the pointy end varies, but that one doesn't actually look like it is to me.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 17th August 13:10

[GT Kodiak]

Jonny_693 said:

Dupont666 said:

let alone in a low profile tyre that would have deflated rather quickly and still not notice... that cant be right.

The trouble with that is low profile also tends to mean a much stiffer sidewall so not as noticeable as you may think.

Dont forget that one end might well have been blocked off by residual glue until the heat/friction/rotational force/pressure removed/parted the glue causing the tire to deflate once at speed.

Terrible accident, however... street racing with passengers aka. ballast.

[AndrewW-G]

Looks like one of these -

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11923/Fixings/Cavity...

Which is in the cavity wall fixings section

[J4CKO]

A lot has been said about the chances of the screws causing an accident for someone who isn't street racing, say with kids in the car, I would counter that with I would take my chances at 40 mph with a screw on the road rather than a Sierra Cosworth on the limits of control coming the other way. I realise it was the early hours but people do move about still, people returning off shifts, holidays or a night out.

A tragic thing to happen and not condeming the poor lad that died as I am not perfect by any stretch but I think we need to cover all the angles.

Hope whoever put the screws there gets caught, i can appreciate their frustration if they are being woken and annoyed by inconsiderate people illegally racing cars in the middle of the night but there are better ways than that to approach it.

[sleep envy]

from screw fix

The easiest way to fix to plasterboard - stronger than the plasterboard itself. Supplied with screws.

[IanMorewood]

hora said:

RobbieB said:

Did anyone else think this was going to be a thread about a murder in prison?.

+1

Or incredible sex.

Edited by hora on Tuesday 17th August 11:19

What a way to go..........

[Davi]

sleep envy said:

no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing

I agree it is a plasterboard mounting screw, but you can get hollow ones!

[sleep envy]

Davi said:

sleep envy said:

no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing

I agree it is a plasterboard mounting screw, but you can get hollow ones!

sure but that particular one is capped, hence why that will never act as a stinger hollow spike