Stupid things non petrolheads say....

[AngryPartsBloke]

marshalla said:

I'm pretty sure that this belongs in this thread.

AngryPartsBloke said:

jhfozzy said:

How much does it pull to the left?

All of my cars (seven and counting) have pulled gently to the left when the steering wheel is released.

I assumed this was a safety feature which tried to prevent the car drifting into oncoming traffic if the driver became unwell or couldn't steer.

My Bora pulls slightly to the left, even with the tracking done and the steeringwheel dead on centre. Never ntoiced it until a few weeks ago.

makes me a non petrol head how?

[benedwards64]

ClassicMotorNut said:

RizzoTheRat said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Can she cope with the concept that if she turns the wheel to the left and goes forward the car goes left?

She was aware of that, which makes her lack of understanding of reversing even more confusing.

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

My mother, who has been driving for 20+ years, also asked me to explain it to her, but at least she understood when I explained. Well, in her words: "Yes, I can sort of see that."

How can anyone not understand? Surely it's just common sense?

Interesting. My OH (who is otherwise a very good driver, I have to say) struggles a bit with reverse maneuvering. In fairness her car's rear visibility is pretty bad which doesn't help matters. I took her out in my Westfield the other day and while reversing it around the house, past her car and into the garage (a fairly complicated process) she commented on how useful it was to be sitting over the back wheels and actually watch what the front wheels do, in terms of understanding how steering inputs dictate the direction of travel while going backwards.

Moral of the story: buy your sister a Westfield

[Finlandia]

AngryPartsBloke said:

marshalla said:

I'm pretty sure that this belongs in this thread.

AngryPartsBloke said:

jhfozzy said:

How much does it pull to the left?

All of my cars (seven and counting) have pulled gently to the left when the steering wheel is released.

I assumed this was a safety feature which tried to prevent the car drifting into oncoming traffic if the driver became unwell or couldn't steer.

My Bora pulls slightly to the left, even with the tracking done and the steeringwheel dead on centre. Never ntoiced it until a few weeks ago.

makes me a non petrol head how?

But, but, but, I have a UK spec car in Sweden, and, it pulls to the right? Oh, the road gradient you say?

[AngryPartsBloke]

Finlandia said:

AngryPartsBloke said:

marshalla said:

I'm pretty sure that this belongs in this thread.

AngryPartsBloke said:

jhfozzy said:

How much does it pull to the left?

All of my cars (seven and counting) have pulled gently to the left when the steering wheel is released.

I assumed this was a safety feature which tried to prevent the car drifting into oncoming traffic if the driver became unwell or couldn't steer.

My Bora pulls slightly to the left, even with the tracking done and the steeringwheel dead on centre. Never ntoiced it until a few weeks ago.

makes me a non petrol head how?

But, but, but, I have a UK spec car in Sweden, and, it pulls to the right? Oh, the road gradient you say?

I merley stated that I had only noticed my Bora did it a few weeks ago.

I wasn't the one who suggested it was a safety feature!

FML

[MartG]

benedwards64 said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

RizzoTheRat said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Can she cope with the concept that if she turns the wheel to the left and goes forward the car goes left?

She was aware of that, which makes her lack of understanding of reversing even more confusing.

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

My mother, who has been driving for 20+ years, also asked me to explain it to her, but at least she understood when I explained. Well, in her words: "Yes, I can sort of see that."

How can anyone not understand? Surely it's just common sense?

Interesting. My OH (who is otherwise a very good driver, I have to say) struggles a bit with reverse maneuvering. In fairness her car's rear visibility is pretty bad which doesn't help matters. I took her out in my Westfield the other day and while reversing it around the house, past her car and into the garage (a fairly complicated process) she commented on how useful it was to be sitting over the back wheels and actually watch what the front wheels do, in terms of understanding how steering inputs dictate the direction of travel while going backwards.

Moral of the story: buy your sister a Westfield

..then hitch a trailer to it and watch her brain explode

[Scuffers]

MartG said:

benedwards64 said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

RizzoTheRat said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Can she cope with the concept that if she turns the wheel to the left and goes forward the car goes left?

She was aware of that, which makes her lack of understanding of reversing even more confusing.

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

My mother, who has been driving for 20+ years, also asked me to explain it to her, but at least she understood when I explained. Well, in her words: "Yes, I can sort of see that."

How can anyone not understand? Surely it's just common sense?

Interesting. My OH (who is otherwise a very good driver, I have to say) struggles a bit with reverse maneuvering. In fairness her car's rear visibility is pretty bad which doesn't help matters. I took her out in my Westfield the other day and while reversing it around the house, past her car and into the garage (a fairly complicated process) she commented on how useful it was to be sitting over the back wheels and actually watch what the front wheels do, in terms of understanding how steering inputs dictate the direction of travel while going backwards.

Moral of the story: buy your sister a Westfield

..then hitch a trailer to it and watch her brain explode

make it a drawbar trailer!

[scarble]

marshalla said:

I'm pretty sure that this belongs in this thread.

AngryPartsBloke said:

jhfozzy said:

How much does it pull to the left?
All of my cars (seven and counting) have pulled gently to the left when the steering wheel is released.
I assumed this was a safety feature which tried to prevent the car drifting into oncoming traffic if the driver became unwell or couldn't steer.

My Bora pulls slightly to the left, even with the tracking done and the steeringwheel dead on centre. Never ntoiced it until a few weeks ago.

my sides!

[karma mechanic]

The local press has been covering the proposed changes to the signage on the A31 in the Ringwood area. As you can imagine, the comments section is a little worrying.
There was this gem, explaining that it isn't more signs that are needed:

...lane discipline RULES also need reinforcing. For example, particularly at Ringwood, a vehicle on an acceleration lane has right of way onto the carriageway over vehicles already on the carriageway - obviously, that applies to traffic back up the carriageway and not immediately alongside. So signage advising of a traffic merger ahead should also include the words 'Slow and give way to traffic merging ahead' That may reduce the incidences of vehicles barrelling on dangerously past a merge vehicle.


I don't think more signage is going to fix this (sigh).

[catman]

...lane discipline RULES also need reinforcing. For example, particularly at Ringwood, a vehicle on an acceleration lane has right of way onto the carriageway over vehicles already on the carriageway - obviously, that applies to traffic back up the carriageway and not immediately alongside. So signage advising of a traffic merger ahead should also include the words 'Slow and give way to traffic merging ahead' That may reduce the incidences of vehicles barrelling on dangerously past a merge vehicle.


I don't think more signage is going to fix this (sigh).

If that's real, that's scary. Did anyone bother correcting him, I wonder?

Tim



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[karma mechanic]

catman said:

If that's real, that's scary. Did anyone bother correcting him, I wonder?

The whole sad Daily Echo article is here
After the so-called contribution by good-gosh at 4:13 and attempts to correct him it soon spiralled into nonsense and name-calling.

[digger the goat]

karma mechanic said:

The whole sad Daily Echo article is here
After the so-called contribution by good-gosh at 4:13 and attempts to correct him it soon spiralled into nonsense and name-calling.

Really.... Name calling ???

Don't get that here, do we !!

[Patrick Bateman]

People thinking that is one thing but to then continue to ignore the facts is pathetically retarded.

[VeeDubBigBird]

xRIEx said:

marshalla said:

Different evolutionary path leading to differences in spatial awareness and perception priorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/article...

(i.e. men have evolved to notice changes in immediate surroundings and to navigate whilst hunting, so need to be able to predict what cannot be seen based on what can be seen, whereas women have evolved to protect young in the immediate vicinity of the home, so need to notice changes in the familiar surroundings. Hence men don't notice new hairstyles, changes of clothing etc. as quickly as women. And I'm sticking to that story, she's starting to believe it.)

I have now copy and pasted this and will now claim it as scientific fact whenever there's an argument with the missus

[xRIEx]

VeeDubBigBird said:

xRIEx said:

marshalla said:

Different evolutionary path leading to differences in spatial awareness and perception priorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/article...

(i.e. men have evolved to notice changes in immediate surroundings and to navigate whilst hunting, so need to be able to predict what cannot be seen based on what can be seen, whereas women have evolved to protect young in the immediate vicinity of the home, so need to notice changes in the familiar surroundings. Hence men don't notice new hairstyles, changes of clothing etc. as quickly as women. And I'm sticking to that story, she's starting to believe it.)

I have now copy and pasted this and will now claim it as scientific fact whenever there's an argument with the missus

You fked up your quoting there.

[scarble]

xRIEx said:

VeeDubBigBird said:

xRIEx said:

marshalla said:

Different evolutionary path leading to differences in spatial awareness and perception priorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/article...

(i.e. men have evolved to notice changes in immediate surroundings and to navigate whilst hunting, so need to be able to predict what cannot be seen based on what can be seen, whereas women have evolved to protect young in the immediate vicinity of the home, so need to notice changes in the familiar surroundings. Hence men don't notice new hairstyles, changes of clothing etc. as quickly as women. And I'm sticking to that story, she's starting to believe it.)

I have now copy and pasted this and will now claim it as scientific fact whenever there's an argument with the missus

You fked up your quoting there.

so have you, you wally

[RizzoTheRat]

scarble said:

xRIEx said:

VeeDubBigBird said:

xRIEx said:

marshalla said:

Different evolutionary path leading to differences in spatial awareness and perception priorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/article...

(i.e. men have evolved to notice changes in immediate surroundings and to navigate whilst hunting, so need to be able to predict what cannot be seen based on what can be seen, whereas women have evolved to protect young in the immediate vicinity of the home, so need to notice changes in the familiar surroundings. Hence men don't notice new hairstyles, changes of clothing etc. as quickly as women. And I'm sticking to that story, she's starting to believe it.)

I have now copy and pasted this and will now claim it as scientific fact whenever there's an argument with the missus

You fked up your quoting there.

so have you, you wally

[xRIEx]

scarble said:

so have you, you wally

I blame the forum software.

[elephantstone]

My sister has just bought a Chevy Cruze 1.8 auto and has called me saying "it goes like st of a shovel!!!" ....I kept quiet.

[Halmyre]

elephantstone said:

My sister has just bought a Chevy Cruze 1.8 auto and has called me saying "it goes like st of a shovel!!!" ....I kept quiet.

Maybe there's a sort of Neil Armstrong flub in there and she meant to say "it goes like a st of a shovel", or even "a shovelful of st".

[Biggy Shackleton]

'Why don't you buy something more practical?'

- From people who've only ever owned entry-level hatchbacks during their entire driving career, and have probably never done anything interesting, daring or exciting in their entire lives - and think you should be the same.