Stupid things non petrolheads say....
Discussion
My wife, being a non-petrol head says: "But why do you need to have it turbocharged?". I mean, isn't it obvious!
Chap in the carpark "That's a nice Calibra" (no mate, it's a V8 Monaro).
Chap in Halfords "Sorry sir, we don't stock those parts for a Movano" (no mate, it's a V8 Monaro).
Greenies "Lower carbon emissions from cars will prevent global warming" (no mate, it will happen, just a bit later)
Greenies (again) "Pure electric cars are the way forward" (no mate - most electricity comes from burning fossil fuel, the whole process being less efficient that burning petrol/diesel in your car)
Chap in the carpark "That's a nice Calibra" (no mate, it's a V8 Monaro).
Chap in Halfords "Sorry sir, we don't stock those parts for a Movano" (no mate, it's a V8 Monaro).
Greenies "Lower carbon emissions from cars will prevent global warming" (no mate, it will happen, just a bit later)
Greenies (again) "Pure electric cars are the way forward" (no mate - most electricity comes from burning fossil fuel, the whole process being less efficient that burning petrol/diesel in your car)
grkify said:
I like it when my friends say oh I bought a new car when in fact its leased. They then turn to me and go well why dont you get a new car (lease car) to which I explain that why would I do that when my car cost half that of the deposit you paid on your base spec corsa that your going to have to give back in three years after paying a ridiculous amount of money with nothing to show for it.
Another resent one was why would i want to change the oil its only 3 years old
to be fair though I can see why people go for pcps, leasing over buying brand-new will not see you too far out of pocket after 3 years when you go for your next car. With the added bonus of no tts popping round wasting your time and offering you half your asking price and then worrying about one scam or another.Another resent one was why would i want to change the oil its only 3 years old
It's different if it's a car you want to keep/'love' etc and this is where modern cars fall down IMO. They are supremely talented and offer more than anything did 30 years ago that it's a whole different ball game - yet they pretty much all are handsome rather than 'bite the back of your hand' gorgeous (eg 512BB when new) and a little sterile
ArnieVXR said:
Greenies (again) "Pure electric cars are the way forward" (no mate - most electricity comes from burning fossil fuel because the Greenies won't let us build nuclear stations which don't emit CO2, the whole process being less efficient that burning petrol/diesel in your car)
Kj159 said:
"I'm pretty sure my financed 1.0 Corsa is a sport version because it has the black wheels"
It's definitely a limited edition model though.Rang a Nissan garage yesterday:
Me: "Hi, I rang earlier about a 370Z that needed some repairs?"
Admin bird: "Oh yes, let me just pull up your file from the servicing side, I'm in sales. There's a note on here that says you requested a small service too, do you want me to arrange that for you?"
Me: "Yes please, it'd be easier to get it all sorted in one visit."
Admin bird: "Certainly. Is your 370Z a petrol or a diesel?"
Me: "...petrol"
The rest of the call was fine but I can't believe someone works in the sales section of a Nissan garage and asks that question. I'm half tempted to park round the corner and ask her if I can have a test drive in a diesel 370Z
(I know this is a bit anal. Raised a few WTF looks from colleagues though, some PH humour I suppose).
sebhaque said:
It's definitely a limited edition model though.
Rang a Nissan garage yesterday:
Me: "Hi, I rang earlier about a 370Z that needed some repairs?"
Admin bird: "Oh yes, let me just pull up your file from the servicing side, I'm in sales. There's a note on here that says you requested a small service too, do you want me to arrange that for you?"
Me: "Yes please, it'd be easier to get it all sorted in one visit."
Admin bird: "Certainly. Is your 370Z a petrol or a diesel?"
Me: "...petrol"
The rest of the call was fine but I can't believe someone works in the sales section of a Nissan garage and asks that question. I'm half tempted to park round the corner and ask her if I can have a test drive in a diesel 370Z
(I know this is a bit anal. Raised a few WTF looks from colleagues though, some PH humour I suppose).
I was asked 'petrol or diesel' re my Cayman. I cried a tiny bit at the realisation that it isn't beyond the realms of possibility. Steve 'Idiot' Sutcliffe has suggested in the past that a diesel V8 would suit the Boxster. You wonder when people went mental, at times!Rang a Nissan garage yesterday:
Me: "Hi, I rang earlier about a 370Z that needed some repairs?"
Admin bird: "Oh yes, let me just pull up your file from the servicing side, I'm in sales. There's a note on here that says you requested a small service too, do you want me to arrange that for you?"
Me: "Yes please, it'd be easier to get it all sorted in one visit."
Admin bird: "Certainly. Is your 370Z a petrol or a diesel?"
Me: "...petrol"
The rest of the call was fine but I can't believe someone works in the sales section of a Nissan garage and asks that question. I'm half tempted to park round the corner and ask her if I can have a test drive in a diesel 370Z
(I know this is a bit anal. Raised a few WTF looks from colleagues though, some PH humour I suppose).
RobinBanks said:
LimaDelta said:
I guess the age related thing is the mark of a complete non-petrol head. Sure they might think they are, and may even be on PH, discussing the relative merits of a 335d over a 330d ( ), but people who appreciate cars, will get it regardless of age.
I think it is a fashion thing - nobody would choose to wear a 90's shell suit (without a strong sense of irony), or 80's shoulder pads (ditto), or choose an iPhone 3 over a 6, or (gasp!) a non-smart phone. Progress is related to age, technology advances, why on earth would you want something old. You wouldn't go out of your way to buy a CRT TV when you can pop into John Lewis and walk out with a state-of-the-art 4K LED TV would you? How can a 70's super car, 80's hatch, a 90's rally-rep or 00's whatever be better than the latest white goods from [insert fashionable mainstream manufacturer]?
Critically speaking, almost everything made today is better than the equivalents of the past, and usually cheaper.I think it is a fashion thing - nobody would choose to wear a 90's shell suit (without a strong sense of irony), or 80's shoulder pads (ditto), or choose an iPhone 3 over a 6, or (gasp!) a non-smart phone. Progress is related to age, technology advances, why on earth would you want something old. You wouldn't go out of your way to buy a CRT TV when you can pop into John Lewis and walk out with a state-of-the-art 4K LED TV would you? How can a 70's super car, 80's hatch, a 90's rally-rep or 00's whatever be better than the latest white goods from [insert fashionable mainstream manufacturer]?
However I can't see how anyone could argue that they would rather have an old CRT TV versus a modern one. In the same way that I would be amazed if somebody wanted a 1994 Ford Escort Popular rather than a brand new Focus.
However that's because those are white goods which are designed to fill a purpose but not to be interesting. If you told me that you'd rather have a Ferrari 512TR from 1994 rather than whatever the equivalent is now, I would fully understand although in critical terms the new one is superior. Each are exciting, but different in their ways.
ORD said:
sebhaque said:
It's definitely a limited edition model though.
Rang a Nissan garage yesterday:
Me: "Hi, I rang earlier about a 370Z that needed some repairs?"
Admin bird: "Oh yes, let me just pull up your file from the servicing side, I'm in sales. There's a note on here that says you requested a small service too, do you want me to arrange that for you?"
Me: "Yes please, it'd be easier to get it all sorted in one visit."
Admin bird: "Certainly. Is your 370Z a petrol or a diesel?"
Me: "...petrol"
The rest of the call was fine but I can't believe someone works in the sales section of a Nissan garage and asks that question. I'm half tempted to park round the corner and ask her if I can have a test drive in a diesel 370Z
(I know this is a bit anal. Raised a few WTF looks from colleagues though, some PH humour I suppose).
I was asked 'petrol or diesel' re my Cayman. I cried a tiny bit at the realisation that it isn't beyond the realms of possibility. Steve 'Idiot' Sutcliffe has suggested in the past that a diesel V8 would suit the Boxster. You wonder when people went mental, at times!Rang a Nissan garage yesterday:
Me: "Hi, I rang earlier about a 370Z that needed some repairs?"
Admin bird: "Oh yes, let me just pull up your file from the servicing side, I'm in sales. There's a note on here that says you requested a small service too, do you want me to arrange that for you?"
Me: "Yes please, it'd be easier to get it all sorted in one visit."
Admin bird: "Certainly. Is your 370Z a petrol or a diesel?"
Me: "...petrol"
The rest of the call was fine but I can't believe someone works in the sales section of a Nissan garage and asks that question. I'm half tempted to park round the corner and ask her if I can have a test drive in a diesel 370Z
(I know this is a bit anal. Raised a few WTF looks from colleagues though, some PH humour I suppose).
Years ago now but after some parts for my MG Maestro Turbo (petrol) at the spares department of my local Rover group main dealership, the guy behind the counter was convinced any Maestro Turbo would have to be a diesel. Took quite a while to convince him that my car was a petrol turbo version of the MG Maestro.
MGJohn said:
Years ago now but after some parts for my MG Maestro Turbo (petrol) at the spares department of my local Rover group main dealership, the guy behind the counter was convinced any Maestro Turbo would have to be a diesel. Took quite a while to convince him that my car was a petrol turbo version of the MG Maestro.
Had the same with a guy who tried to convince me my Calibra Turbo must be dieselMGJohn said:
Years ago now but after some parts for my MG Maestro Turbo (petrol) at the spares department of my local Rover group main dealership, the guy behind the counter was convinced any Maestro Turbo would have to be a diesel. Took quite a while to convince him that my car was a petrol turbo version of the MG Maestro.
A Rover dealer tried to convince me that my 416 had alloy wheels - and this was me in their parts department trying to buy a new wheel trim to replace the one I'd lost. He had to go and look for himself before he'd admit to being wrong.Either that or he was trying to wind me up which, and here's a thing, is a possibility with at least some of the observations noted in this thread - "hey, here comes Mr Pistonhead, let's wind him up about his pride and joy..."
Took the MX5 into a tyre place on Saturday to have a tyre re-seated and a new valve as it was leaking. A couple of the guys were interested in it so I popped the bonnet and they asked about the supercharger and how much power etc. One of the guys then comes back to book it in for tyre work and asks if it's petrol or diesel!!!!!
HorneyMX5 said:
One of the guys then comes back to book it in for tyre work and asks if it's petrol or diesel!!!!!
I wonder if (for some people) it's just one of those automatic things when they get into their routine process because most of the time they need to ask it.I'm sure I do similar things in my job because I just lapse into my troubleshooting script.
ArnieVXR said:
Greenies "Lower carbon emissions from cars will prevent global warming" (no mate, it will happen, just a bit later)
Greenies (again) "Pure electric cars are the way forward" (no mate - most electricity comes from burning fossil fuel, the whole process being less efficient that burning petrol/diesel in your car)
Sorry fella but I have to disagree.Greenies (again) "Pure electric cars are the way forward" (no mate - most electricity comes from burning fossil fuel, the whole process being less efficient that burning petrol/diesel in your car)
First point, it's a matter of balance, plants (some) are net absorbers of CO2 and producers of oxygen, hoever our current rate of CO2 production outweighs, their ability to absorb it, hence atmospheric CO2 increases. We could of course remedy this by planting loads of trees and still drive V8s
Power stations are more likely to run at constant and/or their most efficient speed compared to an ICE and emissions for an EV charged on current UK electricity are on a par with a very good diesel (90g/km) but power stations are more likely to have good particulate traps and SCR for NOx. Saying that they do in some cases burn the dirtier fuels (coal/crude) but at least the emissions are centralised in less populated areas so the health impact is lower.
scarble said:
Sorry fella but I have to disagree.
Power stations are more likely to run at constant and/or their most efficient speed compared to an ICE and emissions for an EV charged on current UK electricity are on a par with a very good diesel (90g/km) but power stations are more likely to have good particulate traps and SCR for NOx. Saying that they do in some cases burn the dirtier fuels (coal/crude) but at least the emissions are centralised in less populated areas so the health impact is lower.
You're forgetting transmission losses getting the electricity from the power station to the consumer, as well as the losses in charging batteries - overall electric cars are less efficient in terms of power delivered to the wheels compared to the energy in the fuel burnedPower stations are more likely to run at constant and/or their most efficient speed compared to an ICE and emissions for an EV charged on current UK electricity are on a par with a very good diesel (90g/km) but power stations are more likely to have good particulate traps and SCR for NOx. Saying that they do in some cases burn the dirtier fuels (coal/crude) but at least the emissions are centralised in less populated areas so the health impact is lower.
MartG said:
scarble said:
Sorry fella but I have to disagree.
Power stations are more likely to run at constant and/or their most efficient speed compared to an ICE and emissions for an EV charged on current UK electricity are on a par with a very good diesel (90g/km) but power stations are more likely to have good particulate traps and SCR for NOx. Saying that they do in some cases burn the dirtier fuels (coal/crude) but at least the emissions are centralised in less populated areas so the health impact is lower.
You're forgetting transmission losses getting the electricity from the power station to the consumer, as well as the losses in charging batteries - overall electric cars are less efficient in terms of power delivered to the wheels compared to the energy in the fuel burnedPower stations are more likely to run at constant and/or their most efficient speed compared to an ICE and emissions for an EV charged on current UK electricity are on a par with a very good diesel (90g/km) but power stations are more likely to have good particulate traps and SCR for NOx. Saying that they do in some cases burn the dirtier fuels (coal/crude) but at least the emissions are centralised in less populated areas so the health impact is lower.
TA14 said:
Hooli said:
blueg33 said:
Our weekly shop is £160. When 18 year old son went away for a month in the summer, the bill dropped by £50. We rarely buy stuff like steak and buy one bottle of wine per week, but Mrs can't have gluten. GF stuff is expensive. Also stuff like fairy non bio and dishwasher tablets are costly.
The bolded bit is your fault for having a mistress.blueg33 said:
RobinBanks said:
LimaDelta said:
I guess the age related thing is the mark of a complete non-petrol head. Sure they might think they are, and may even be on PH, discussing the relative merits of a 335d over a 330d ( ), but people who appreciate cars, will get it regardless of age.
I think it is a fashion thing - nobody would choose to wear a 90's shell suit (without a strong sense of irony), or 80's shoulder pads (ditto), or choose an iPhone 3 over a 6, or (gasp!) a non-smart phone. Progress is related to age, technology advances, why on earth would you want something old. You wouldn't go out of your way to buy a CRT TV when you can pop into John Lewis and walk out with a state-of-the-art 4K LED TV would you? How can a 70's super car, 80's hatch, a 90's rally-rep or 00's whatever be better than the latest white goods from [insert fashionable mainstream manufacturer]?
Critically speaking, almost everything made today is better than the equivalents of the past, and usually cheaper.I think it is a fashion thing - nobody would choose to wear a 90's shell suit (without a strong sense of irony), or 80's shoulder pads (ditto), or choose an iPhone 3 over a 6, or (gasp!) a non-smart phone. Progress is related to age, technology advances, why on earth would you want something old. You wouldn't go out of your way to buy a CRT TV when you can pop into John Lewis and walk out with a state-of-the-art 4K LED TV would you? How can a 70's super car, 80's hatch, a 90's rally-rep or 00's whatever be better than the latest white goods from [insert fashionable mainstream manufacturer]?
However I can't see how anyone could argue that they would rather have an old CRT TV versus a modern one. In the same way that I would be amazed if somebody wanted a 1994 Ford Escort Popular rather than a brand new Focus.
However that's because those are white goods which are designed to fill a purpose but not to be interesting. If you told me that you'd rather have a Ferrari 512TR from 1994 rather than whatever the equivalent is now, I would fully understand although in critical terms the new one is superior. Each are exciting, but different in their ways.
The biggest downside is the lack of HDMI, so I can't use my Xbox One through it.
Jabosoc said:
The biggest downside is the lack of HDMI, so I can't use my Xbox One through it.
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