Stupid things non petrolheads say....
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Indeed. My 1998 323i is a 2.5L engine.
The Qashqai story above is pretty close to my experience with a colleague at work. She told me Id be surprised at how quick it was. Then I drove four of us out to a team meal in my old BMW e36 323 auto and she remarked that she now understood why I though the Qshqai would be slow! If this is what normal, intelligent people think I do wonder why manufacturers have bothered making cars any faster in the last 20 years.
The Qashqai story above is pretty close to my experience with a colleague at work. She told me Id be surprised at how quick it was. Then I drove four of us out to a team meal in my old BMW e36 323 auto and she remarked that she now understood why I though the Qshqai would be slow! If this is what normal, intelligent people think I do wonder why manufacturers have bothered making cars any faster in the last 20 years.
xRIEx said:
AW111 said:
AAD44H said:
"Is that a 1.3 injection?" - whilst looking at the back of my M135i. "No, it's a 3 litre", "s
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TBF, it should really be a 3.5l injection, going by the badge (I used to drive a 323i, which was what it said on the badge).t!"Life was easier when all this wor fields.
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m444ttb said:
Indeed. My 1998 323i is a 2.5L engine.
The Qashqai story above is pretty close to my experience with a colleague at work. She told me Id be surprised at how quick it was. Then I drove four of us out to a team meal in my old BMW e36 323 auto and she remarked that she now understood why I though the Qshqai would be slow! If this is what normal, intelligent people think I do wonder why manufacturers have bothered making cars any faster in the last 20 years.
I do wonder if too many people just think their ordinary car is the fastest thing ever. Maybe the 2L diesel is quicker than the 1.3 petrol they learned to drive in, but it's not all that - yet they drive it like it is. I've got slow cars and fast cars, and find it quite amazing how many people automatically assume they're going to be overtaking on dual carriageways, moving straight into lane 3 on the motorway, or pull up in lane 2 at the traffic lights etc - even if they're not really all that quick.The Qashqai story above is pretty close to my experience with a colleague at work. She told me Id be surprised at how quick it was. Then I drove four of us out to a team meal in my old BMW e36 323 auto and she remarked that she now understood why I though the Qshqai would be slow! If this is what normal, intelligent people think I do wonder why manufacturers have bothered making cars any faster in the last 20 years.
Driving a slow car is actually quite a discipline - making sure you don't hold people up unnecessarily, only overtaking lorries etc when it's really clear. It's quite enjoyable and relaxing in a way, yet so many drivers (esp of low-end models from aspirational brands with optional big alloys) seem to expect that they're kings of the road.
ewand said:
I do wonder if too many people just think their ordinary car is the fastest thing ever. Maybe the 2L diesel is quicker than the 1.3 petrol they learned to drive in, but it's not all that - yet they drive it like it is. I've got slow cars and fast cars, and find it quite amazing how many people automatically assume they're going to be overtaking on dual carriageways, moving straight into lane 3 on the motorway, or pull up in lane 2 at the traffic lights etc - even if they're not really all that quick.
Driving a slow car is actually quite a discipline - making sure you don't hold people up unnecessarily, only overtaking lorries etc when it's really clear. It's quite enjoyable and relaxing in a way, yet so many drivers (esp of low-end models from aspirational brands with optional big alloys) seem to expect that they're kings of the road.
My boring 62 plate diesel Mondeo is "nippy" compared to some cars I've owned, some not very knowledgeable passengers will even comment as such if i need to floor it for any reasons, but I'm under no illusions that, in the grand scheme of things, it's rather slow.Driving a slow car is actually quite a discipline - making sure you don't hold people up unnecessarily, only overtaking lorries etc when it's really clear. It's quite enjoyable and relaxing in a way, yet so many drivers (esp of low-end models from aspirational brands with optional big alloys) seem to expect that they're kings of the road.
It's all in knowing what the car can and cannot do competently (or at all) and utilising that to best, and safest, ability.
ewand said:
I do wonder if too many people just think their ordinary car is the fastest thing ever. Maybe the 2L diesel is quicker than the 1.3 petrol they learned to drive in, but it's not all that - yet they drive it like it is. I've got slow cars and fast cars, and find it quite amazing how many people automatically assume they're going to be overtaking on dual carriageways, moving straight into lane 3 on the motorway, or pull up in lane 2 at the traffic lights etc - even if they're not really all that quick.
Driving a slow car is actually quite a discipline - making sure you don't hold people up unnecessarily, only overtaking lorries etc when it's really clear. It's quite enjoyable and relaxing in a way, yet so many drivers (esp of low-end models from aspirational brands with optional big alloys) seem to expect that they're kings of the road.
I drive a very slow fiesta van and find people holding me up all the time.Driving a slow car is actually quite a discipline - making sure you don't hold people up unnecessarily, only overtaking lorries etc when it's really clear. It's quite enjoyable and relaxing in a way, yet so many drivers (esp of low-end models from aspirational brands with optional big alloys) seem to expect that they're kings of the road.
Most "drivers" forget their car will go past 2000rpm.
Drive Blind said:
Bloke 1 "Hows the Qashqai?"
Bloke 2 "Yeah, its brilliant"
B1 "is it a petrol or diesel?"
B2 "the 1.5 diesel, it's got so much oomph and can't see how you would ever need the bigger engine"
perhaps not stupid, maybe just a bit unrealistic about their cars performance.
Had a very similar conversation with my brother - happy Qashquai owner, and TBH, it's a great car for what he & his wife want from it. Which is highish daily mileage, no effort to drive, low on-cost, low aggravation, unimaginative 'four doors and a decade or so out of their money' s worth.Bloke 2 "Yeah, its brilliant"
B1 "is it a petrol or diesel?"
B2 "the 1.5 diesel, it's got so much oomph and can't see how you would ever need the bigger engine"
perhaps not stupid, maybe just a bit unrealistic about their cars performance.
Anyway - then we took a shared drive over his usual commute route in my E34 540; he couldn't believe how it 'simply flattened the hills and runs away' ... barely had the heart to show him what holding lower gears offered.
Hugo a Gogo said:
which is why they think diesels are fast
because they have been driving petrol cars like that, and now are suddenly in the power band at 2000rpm
Probably an age thing too - people who learned to drive in the 1970s were taught to upshift as soon as possible (at least my sisters were) so that leads them to snatching 2nd as soon as they're rolling and basically chugging about the place. because they have been driving petrol cars like that, and now are suddenly in the power band at 2000rpm
But then, people in general think revving an engine is a bad thing - when I went with the Mrs to test drive a Honda S2000, having owned one a couple of years before, we each went out with the salesman for a quick blat. Afterwards I said to her how nice it was to experience VTEC again. "Oh, I didn't get it into VTEC..."
dayman0 said:
A mate got in my Fiesta ST the other day and after a bit of semi-spirited driving (enough to hear the 4 pot powaaaa) he asked me if it was a diesel. Now I'm sad.
An ex-girlfriend asked me once if my old Evo IX FQ-340 was a diesel. I think that's the default question non-petrol heads ask about anything.Cylinder 8 said:
ChemicalChaos said:
SS7
shoestring7 said:
Cylinder 8 said:
ChemicalChaos said:
SS7
shoestring7 said:
Cylinder 8 said:
ChemicalChaos said:
SS7
Turbo by definition is a supercharger driven by a turbine.
zeduffman said:
Gypsum Fantastic said:
An ex-girlfriend asked me once if my old Evo IX FQ-340 was a diesel. I think that's the default question non-petrol heads ask about anything.
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