Stupid things non petrolheads say....
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ORD said:
It's perfectly rational.
I would be more careful on a bike than in a car, sure. The difference is this: if some douche rams into me in my car, I might be a little bit hurt; if some douche rams into me when I am on a bike, I would be a lot hurt or dead.
Well, here's the thing. That's someone else crashing into you...I think when people say "I'd kill myself riding a motorbike" they sound like they are saying "I'm just no good at planning ahead, I'll have the throttle wound wide open in top doing 160 mph then all of a sudden I'll have to brake and take a tight 90 degree left hander and I just couldnt do that because I'm too useless to control myself and my machine"I would be more careful on a bike than in a car, sure. The difference is this: if some douche rams into me in my car, I might be a little bit hurt; if some douche rams into me when I am on a bike, I would be a lot hurt or dead.
Look at the guy in who posted in biker banter about passing his test and jumping on a ducati panigale. A clear demonstration that, with a careful right hand (fnar) you can survive riding a motorcycle.
As a chap who started out on bikes and rode through and around london for 6 years before getting a car, I found myself disliking driving cars. I felt I had no-where to position myself to get out of harms way (something I have used to my advantage a couple of times on my bike). I generally feel safer on a motorcycle than in a car, and I can envisage siutaitons where if I had the same crash but one on the bike and one in the car, I'd be much, much worse off in the car. It depends on perspectives I guess. Bikes are dangerous, indeed...but dont think that cars are 100% safe either
Edited by thatdude on Thursday 19th June 13:43
chrispmartha said:
anthonysjb said:
a BMW 318 is a 1.8l, 320 a 2.0l, 335 3.5l, etc etc..
I would hardly call that stupid, in fact it would be quite a logical way of thinking surely?e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
jamieduff1981 said:
zeppelin101 said:
ORD said:
It's perfectly rational.
I would be more careful on a bike than in a car, sure. The difference is this: if some douche rams into me in my car, I might be a little bit hurt; if some douche rams into me when I am on a bike, I would be a lot hurt or dead.
That. Given that the majority of people on my commute can't seem to identify a car on the road without trying to have an accident with it, I dread to think how long I would last on something which is even smaller.I would be more careful on a bike than in a car, sure. The difference is this: if some douche rams into me in my car, I might be a little bit hurt; if some douche rams into me when I am on a bike, I would be a lot hurt or dead.
I don't drive a diesel car.
slipstream 1985 said:
chrispmartha said:
anthonysjb said:
a BMW 318 is a 1.8l, 320 a 2.0l, 335 3.5l, etc etc..
I would hardly call that stupid, in fact it would be quite a logical way of thinking surely?HereBeMonsters said:
Bungleaio said:
sparkyhx said:
BHC said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Early last year, girl at work bought a brand new Fiat 500. No idea how, because I know how little she is paid, but the £199 a month seemed like a bargain to her, to replace her Mum's old Civic ("it needs new tyres and brakes soon, which I just can't afford") with something shiny.
Now she's accidentally up the duff, and she wants to buy a small house with her boyfriend. Sold the Fiat to get money for the deposit, she's got his 07 plate Corsa to get to work with, as he commutes on the train now.
She's now asking my advice, as she's stopped making her car payments because "I don't have the car anymore". No amount of trying to explain that she has the value of the car in her bank account will make her see. She's asking for the number of a friend of mine who's a lawyer to "take these people to court to stop harassing me".
How she sold it with finance owing, I have no idea, but she got around £7k for it, so far more than she's paid on the finance so far. I think she sold it to a mate of a mate, and now thinks the person who bought it off her should be paying for it. She just does not understand the concept.
So she doesn't get the fact that she never paid a £7000 sum? She and the friend are going to be very out of pocket....Now she's accidentally up the duff, and she wants to buy a small house with her boyfriend. Sold the Fiat to get money for the deposit, she's got his 07 plate Corsa to get to work with, as he commutes on the train now.
She's now asking my advice, as she's stopped making her car payments because "I don't have the car anymore". No amount of trying to explain that she has the value of the car in her bank account will make her see. She's asking for the number of a friend of mine who's a lawyer to "take these people to court to stop harassing me".
How she sold it with finance owing, I have no idea, but she got around £7k for it, so far more than she's paid on the finance so far. I think she sold it to a mate of a mate, and now thinks the person who bought it off her should be paying for it. She just does not understand the concept.
In the meantime I've told her she has to pay the finance company the outstanding payments (she's cancelled the direct debit herself) or she'll be finding it very difficult to get a mortgage. She's still indignant that "this has happened to me". She's going to speak to her Dad about it tonight. I will report back.
She may well owe far more than the 7k she sold it for.
thatdude said:
Cotty said:
Nope, I had the first model of 3 series the E30, it was a 316 which used a 1,766cc engine. Basically the 318i engine without the injection but they didn't call it a 318
BMW do something like this with their desiels...they are all 2 litre, but differant cams etc
They have 2l and 3l diesel engines I believe. Edited by xRIEx on Thursday 19th June 14:46
sparkyhx said:
Brand new even the basic is 10K, plus interest over 5 years (unless she had a trade in). She's only paying 2400 a year so it must be a 5 year finance deal or PCP.
She may well owe far more than the 7k she sold it for.
Yes, she traded in her Mum's Civic (which wasn't particularly old) and some cash, I believe, to get that headline-grabbing £199/month.She may well owe far more than the 7k she sold it for.
gowmonster said:
it would when it actually did mean the engine sizes like it used to only when they got to e36 they started faffing about, eg 323 and 325 were both 2.5l 318 was a 1.8 (bar derv it was a 1.7) 328 was a 2.8 etc.
e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
I'll take your word for it. My point still stands, in this case it's not the 'non petrol heads' that are stupid, it's BMW's naming conventions.e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
slipstream 1985 said:
chrispmartha said:
anthonysjb said:
a BMW 318 is a 1.8l, 320 a 2.0l, 335 3.5l, etc etc..
I would hardly call that stupid, in fact it would be quite a logical way of thinking surely?Sister - "What stupid car are you coming up to our house in today?" (Meaning Evora, Boxster or something else I have at the time)
Me - "Lets talk about that shall we. Now which one of us has a 2 tonne, 4x4 with 7 seats (she has a XC90) and which one of us has a small 2 seat car?"
Sister - "Yeah, well fair point."
Me - "Lets talk about that shall we. Now which one of us has a 2 tonne, 4x4 with 7 seats (she has a XC90) and which one of us has a small 2 seat car?"
Sister - "Yeah, well fair point."
gowmonster said:
it would when it actually did mean the engine sizes like it used to only when they got to e36 they started faffing about, eg 323 and 325 were both 2.5l 318 was a 1.8 (bar derv it was a 1.7) 328 was a 2.8 etc.
e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
On the E46's, the 318i had a 2.0 4Cyl e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
the 320i had a 2.2 6cyl.
Mr SFJ said:
gowmonster said:
it would when it actually did mean the engine sizes like it used to only when they got to e36 they started faffing about, eg 323 and 325 were both 2.5l 318 was a 1.8 (bar derv it was a 1.7) 328 was a 2.8 etc.
e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
On the E46's, the 318i had a 2.0 4Cyl e46s, it was all over the shop, only the 330 and the 325 had engines that reflected the badge. the 318 actually had a bigger cc that the 320 :S :S :S
the 320i had a 2.2 6cyl.
Even going back to the E23 7 Series, when most of the range had a model number which reflected the engine capacity, there were exceptions to the convention.
The 735 had a 3.4 litre (3428cc) M30B34 engine, and the 733i had a 3.2 litre (3210cc) M30B32 unit. The only reason I can think of for this is because BMW designed the car and engine first, to meet a brief, then they went to their 'naming convention' department to get a model number...
The M30B34 unit should have powered the "BMW 734" and the M30B32, if convention had been followed, ought to have been in the "BMW 732"
...and I reckon that management just decided that, as model numbers, they just didn't look, or sound, Dynamic enough, and didn't help to sell the car enough. It's psychology of numbers, nothing more. Some numbers, weird as it seems as a concept, are just more desirable to us at a subconscious level than others. It's along the same lines as why most shops deal in '99p' prices, despite the fact that 'round pounds' are more sensible, and easier for us to add up.
Try it...
Do you want a 732 or a 733 more? How about a 734 over a 735 ? It's less to do with what lies under the bonnet, and far more to to do with those three characters on the bootlid
The 735 had a 3.4 litre (3428cc) M30B34 engine, and the 733i had a 3.2 litre (3210cc) M30B32 unit. The only reason I can think of for this is because BMW designed the car and engine first, to meet a brief, then they went to their 'naming convention' department to get a model number...
The M30B34 unit should have powered the "BMW 734" and the M30B32, if convention had been followed, ought to have been in the "BMW 732"
...and I reckon that management just decided that, as model numbers, they just didn't look, or sound, Dynamic enough, and didn't help to sell the car enough. It's psychology of numbers, nothing more. Some numbers, weird as it seems as a concept, are just more desirable to us at a subconscious level than others. It's along the same lines as why most shops deal in '99p' prices, despite the fact that 'round pounds' are more sensible, and easier for us to add up.
Try it...
Do you want a 732 or a 733 more? How about a 734 over a 735 ? It's less to do with what lies under the bonnet, and far more to to do with those three characters on the bootlid
yellowjack said:
Even going back to the E23 7 Series, when most of the range had a model number which reflected the engine capacity, there were exceptions to the convention.
The 735 had a 3.4 litre (3428cc) M30B34 engine, and the 733i had a 3.2 litre (3210cc) M30B32 unit. The only reason I can think of for this is because BMW designed the car and engine first, to meet a brief, then they went to their 'naming convention' department to get a model number...
The M30B34 unit should have powered the "BMW 734" and the M30B32, if convention had been followed, ought to have been in the "BMW 732"
...and I reckon that management just decided that, as model numbers, they just didn't look, or sound, Dynamic enough, and didn't help to sell the car enough. It's psychology of numbers, nothing more. Some numbers, weird as it seems as a concept, are just more desirable to us at a subconscious level than others. It's along the same lines as why most shops deal in '99p' prices, despite the fact that 'round pounds' are more sensible, and easier for us to add up.
Try it...
Do you want a 732 or a 733 more? How about a 734 over a 735 ? It's less to do with what lies under the bonnet, and far more to to do with those three characters on the bootlid
My 750i had a 5.4 V12, but a 754 would have sounded weird. Seven fifty four sounds more like the time you'd catch a train.The 735 had a 3.4 litre (3428cc) M30B34 engine, and the 733i had a 3.2 litre (3210cc) M30B32 unit. The only reason I can think of for this is because BMW designed the car and engine first, to meet a brief, then they went to their 'naming convention' department to get a model number...
The M30B34 unit should have powered the "BMW 734" and the M30B32, if convention had been followed, ought to have been in the "BMW 732"
...and I reckon that management just decided that, as model numbers, they just didn't look, or sound, Dynamic enough, and didn't help to sell the car enough. It's psychology of numbers, nothing more. Some numbers, weird as it seems as a concept, are just more desirable to us at a subconscious level than others. It's along the same lines as why most shops deal in '99p' prices, despite the fact that 'round pounds' are more sensible, and easier for us to add up.
Try it...
Do you want a 732 or a 733 more? How about a 734 over a 735 ? It's less to do with what lies under the bonnet, and far more to to do with those three characters on the bootlid
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