Stupid things non petrolheads say....

[bigkeeko]

scarble said:

Do you need the OBD thing? I thought it'd figure it out from accelerometers and GPS?
I'd hardly rely on OBD data for it, you may as well use a stopwatch.

Took this from their site. I don`t need the OBD plug in.

"Torque doesn't require anything more than the hardware already present on your Android phone to function. Without any external hardware, Torque can still pull sensor data from your phone's GPS antenna, internal compass, barometer, and accelerometer."

So, you`re correct, it uses the above.

For anyone else interested.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/monitor-your-cars-perfo...

Edited by bigkeeko on Tuesday 12th August 20:48

[trashbat]

When connected it'll very likely use the OBD speed reading as it's much higher frequency than GPS, if not quite as accurate.

[CB2152]

bigkeeko said:

things that answered my question.

Thanks, I'll have to have a play around with that

[Dazmo]

I once interviewed a guy for a sales job and we were talking about what he liked to spend his money on. He said he was into his cars so I asked what his dream car was. The answer... "Porsche Carrera Forty-Five". It took only a few moments to work out he'd misread "4S" on the back of my 911 parked outside the office window! Needless to say, the muppet didn't get the job.

[TheFinners]

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

[Viper_Larry]

TheFinners said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

When my wife was instructing, a couple of times she had to get the student to turn the wheel then get out and see which way the wheels were facing to try and get them to understand what was happening when reversing

[carmadgaz]

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

I was teaching a mates 13yo daughter to drive around their farm in a Shogun. She got the hang of going forwards and clutch control quite well. After a few practices I told her to reverse around the track she had made around the field. Was sawing away like a loon, she just couldn't get the concept at all even after I had demonstrated

[scarble]

trashbat said:

When connected it'll very likely use the OBD speed reading as it's much higher frequency than GPS, if not quite as accurate.

I dunno mate, OBD is pretty f**king slow. Not sure either method can give a remotely accurate 0-60.

[trashbat]

scarble said:

I dunno mate, OBD is pretty f**king slow. Not sure either method can give a remotely accurate 0-60.

Not in my experience - I haven't timed it or anything but stuff like the rev counter reading feels as though it has very little lag. Often it's the connected equipment that introduces delay by picking a slow polling interval or using a slow connection. In any case the delay ought to be linear so it should still be good for 0-60 times.

[Pan Pan]

The problem possibly lies in the fact that in general girls don't play with toy cars of all types, including Radio control types in their formative years. This is something that most boys do automatically

[Hugo a Gogo]

spatial awareness, boys learn all about it from peeing standing up

[scarble]

trashbat said:

ot in my experience - I haven't timed it or anything but stuff like the rev counter reading feels as though it has very little lag. Often it's the connected equipment that introduces delay by picking a slow polling interval or using a slow connection. In any case the delay ought to be linear so it should still be good for 0-60 times.

Well in my experience using stuff like Ross-Tech adapters with VCDS (VAG-COM), the sample rate is varied and slow. I can't off the top of my head think where I might find OBD data for examples.

[JagXJR]

mrf said:

Having spent time and money sorting out the last owners total disregard for maintenance....
My mum - You should sell it now..before something else goes wrong

• There is NOTHING else to go f'in wrong...Why would I sell a car that finally runs perfectly???"

These people really annoy me, if you can't afford to maintain a car properly buy a cheaper model! Or a bus pass!

[slipstream 1985]

Hugo a Gogo said:

spatial awareness, boys learn all about it from peeing standing up

interesting life quote

[Mr2Mike]

trashbat said:

When connected it'll very likely use the OBD speed reading as it's much higher frequency than GPS, if not quite as accurate.

You don't actually need to monitor vehicle speed separately at all, everything can be done from the accelerometer (the integral of acceleration is velocity).

[X5TUU]

JagXJR said:

These people really annoy me, if you can't afford to maintain a car properly buy a cheaper model! Or a bus pass!

That doesnt really make that much sense, makes little difference financially whether servicing a Golf 1.4 or a Golf 2.0 (as an example) ... I know a good dozen or so people who will either;

a) buy cars new, run them for 2-3yrs and with the minimal intervention necessary to maintain basic residuals and then trade them out and repeat

b) buy used models, run them with nil costs other than fuel/tax/insurance and then as soon as something needs doing get rid and start again, I can think of one friend in particular who runs an ST170 which has never been serviced or maintained other than MOT bills for over 12 years ... its on an 02 plate and was bought at 2yrs old, and is in the process of selling it now.

[ClassicMotorNut]

RizzoTheRat said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Can she cope with the concept that if she turns the wheel to the left and goes forward the car goes left?

She was aware of that, which makes her lack of understanding of reversing even more confusing.

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

My mother, who has been driving for 20+ years, also asked me to explain it to her, but at least she understood when I explained. Well, in her words: "Yes, I can sort of see that."

How can anyone not understand? Surely it's just common sense?

[MG CHRIS]

ClassicMotorNut said:

RizzoTheRat said:

ClassicMotorNut said:

My sister, who is 23 and interested in learning to drive, cannot grasp how steering a car works when reversing. I spent a good amount of my evening trying to explain to her how, if you turn the wheels towards the left and then reverse, the car will move towards your left. I even had to get assistance from a 1:18th Porsche 356 but to no avail. The stupid thing she said (repeatedly) was "No, I still don't get it."

Can she cope with the concept that if she turns the wheel to the left and goes forward the car goes left?

She was aware of that, which makes her lack of understanding of reversing even more confusing.

TheFinners said:

Interestingly my driving instructor told me that he noticed Women tended to struggle with this idea a lot more than the Men did.

My mother, who has been driving for 20+ years, also asked me to explain it to her, but at least she understood when I explained. Well, in her words: "Yes, I can sort of see that."

How can anyone not understand? Surely it's just common sense?

That's where your forgetting they don't.

[Blown2CV]

Dazmo said:

I once interviewed a guy for a sales job and we were talking about what he liked to spend his money on. He said he was into his cars so I asked what his dream car was. The answer... "Porsche Carrera Forty-Five". It took only a few moments to work out he'd misread "4S" on the back of my 911 parked outside the office window! Needless to say, the muppet didn't get the job.

christ, tough school. For all you know he'd done some background research, found out you were a petrolhead, tried to use it to his advantage... yea he fked it up, but a muppet - bit harsh.

[Super Slo Mo]

Pan Pan said:

The problem possibly lies in the fact that in general girls don't play with toy cars of all types, including Radio control types in their formative years. This is something that most boys do automatically

Also, are boys more likely to have pedal cars/carts?
Most of my peers had some kind of ride on vehicle as children in the 70's/80's; I have no idea if kids these days have them, but those toys will give the child an understanding of how the wheels affect the car's direction of travel.