Stupid things non petrolheads say....

[CapnSlow]

Daston said:

Considering it's an RX7 MPG isn't really at the top of the list :P

Is that MPG of oil?

[Halmyre]

Dracoro said:

Same power surely.... But I bet it weighs a lot, the auto box sapping power etc.

That's got me wondering, do automatic transmissions still sap power the way they used to?

[GroundEffect]

Halmyre said:

Dracoro said:

Same power surely.... But I bet it weighs a lot, the auto box sapping power etc.

That's got me wondering, do automatic transmissions still sap power the way they used to?

Not nearly as much because that's a waste of fuel (i.e. higher CO2, lower MPG). Any decently designed and calibrated auto these days will be locking up the torque converter early and operate basically the same as a manual.

[Horse Pop]

Halmyre said:

That's got me wondering, do automatic transmissions still sap power the way they used to?

I believe modern ones lock up the torque converter more for efficiency reasons.

[Dracoro]

GroundEffect said:

Halmyre said:

Dracoro said:

Same power surely.... But I bet it weighs a lot, the auto box sapping power etc.

That's got me wondering, do automatic transmissions still sap power the way they used to?

Not nearly as much because that's a waste of fuel (i.e. higher CO2, lower MPG). Any decently designed and calibrated auto these days will be locking up the torque converter early and operate basically the same as a manual.

On a Chevy Cruse?

Gearboxes have improved on a lot of cars, however not convinced a Chevy Cruse is particularly aheadwith the game in this respect.

[FeelingLucky]

Hooli said:

aka_kerrly said:

ORD said:

FeelingLucky said:

Hooli said:

FeelingLucky said:

I used to hear the Mondeo thing a lot, I asked which Mondeo the 3.0 X type was based on, and was told "The 4WD one..."

Really can't argue with that.

These ones then?

http://www.carsuk.net/new-ford-mondeo-estate-hybri...

I've got a feeling a few Mk1 Mondeo 4wds got made too.

Yes indeed that's the one. The 2001 X-Type was based upon the 2015 Mondeo platform, this thread was really made for you wasn't it?

And as for Mk1 Mondeos being 4WD, I'm waiting with baited breath for that link, care to share???

Funniest ever subject matter for a passive aggressive nerd-off?

Quite, especially when the 4x4 MK1 Mondeo exists.... it was available from 1993 in 2.0 16v saloon and estate.
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...

How Many Left lists about 40 on the road

I knew I'd heard of the Mk1s & just found the above link when googling for them.

Besides if FeelingLucky didn't believe he actually has a Mondeo, would he care about all this?

Whilst standing here corrected, I GENUINELY don't believe I have a Mondeo, having said that my car is 4WD

[GroundEffect]

Dracoro said:

GroundEffect said:

Halmyre said:

Dracoro said:

Same power surely.... But I bet it weighs a lot, the auto box sapping power etc.

That's got me wondering, do automatic transmissions still sap power the way they used to?

Not nearly as much because that's a waste of fuel (i.e. higher CO2, lower MPG). Any decently designed and calibrated auto these days will be locking up the torque converter early and operate basically the same as a manual.

On a Chevy Cruse?

Gearboxes have improved on a lot of cars, however not convinced a Chevy Cruse is particularly aheadwith the game in this respect.

Nothing wrong with GM's autos. I share some of the tech with them and nowadays so much of it comes from calibration not just physical hardware.

[EggsBenedict]

STNPS: "Modifying your car is a waste of time and money"

[Evangelion]

EggsBenedict said:

STNPS: "Modifying your car is a waste of time and money"

True, but we all do it because it's fun, and doesn't do any harm.

Unlike smoking, alcohol, drugs etc.

[RichwiththeS2000]

Money you enjoy 'wasting' was not wasted :-)

[motorhole]

Evangelion said:

True, but we all do it because it's fun, and doesn't do any harm.

Unlike smoking, alcohol, drugs etc.

Not a waste of time and money if you enjoy it! The way I justify it to myself goes like this.

Over 'A' many years, I have spend 'B' pounds. To show for it, I have a car worth 'C' pounds.

Therefore my annual hobby spend = (B-C)/A.

Now, I'm generally a boring b*st*rd and therefore don't go out on the town much, I don't drink much in general and I don't smoke - that's not my thing, whereas playing with cars is. So, if (1/52)*[(B-C)/A] comes to less than £60 (i.e. less than £60 a week), I think that's a pretty justifiable hobby in the grand scheme of things.

Missus is less inclined to agree, however...

[Evangelion]

Perhaps you should take up smoking, drinking, etc! for a while. She may change her opinion somewhat, after that.

[aka_kerrly]

FeelingLucky said:

Whilst standing here corrected, I GENUINELY don't believe I have a Mondeo, having said that my car is 4WD

I for one wasn't suggesting because you can get a 4x4 Mondeo that it is the same as a X-type set up, according to "the internet" the X type only shares 15% of mondeo parts.

Odd that the Freelander is also based on the same Ford chassis to.

[DUMBO100]

Type R owners club....

[Halmyre]

DUMBO100 said:

Type R owners club....

If this isn't a very obvious troll, then mankind is truly doomed.

[Looket]

Had the following text convo with the ex once.

Her: Someone just pulled up in a Minnie.
Me: In a what?
Her: Minnie Cooper.
Me: Mini...

-radio silence-

[Blown2CV]

in all honesty i seem to remember hearing some people swear by using nitrogen instead of 'just' compressed air in their road car tyres. I think it costs a fair bit too.

[iva cosworth]

The Narrator on "Police Interceptors" who just said.

"This Transit is 51% overweight"

It's a Mercedes Sprinter.

Whoever wrote the script obviously not a vanfan.

[Krikkit]

Blown2CV said:

in all honesty i seem to remember hearing some people swear by using nitrogen instead of 'just' compressed air in their road car tyres. I think it costs a fair bit too.

The idea is that it's more stable with temperature changes, hence setting pressures is much easier.

That, and an N2 molecule is bigger than a CO2 molecule, so it leaks out of the tyre more slowly.

[Flibble]

Krikkit said:

That, and an N2 molecule is bigger than a CO2 molecule, so it leaks out of the tyre more slowly.

CO2 is a larger molecule than N2. However as approximately 0.04% of the air is CO2 that's not a big issue. O2 is the other main component of air (aside from N2) and it is indeed slightly smaller than N2, but the difference is fairly minor in practice.

Likewise the pressure variance difference between O2 and N2 is not worth worrying about in practical terms, the only thing that really makes a difference is how much moisture is in the tyre. Dried air or nitrogen will give a more consistent fill pressure than normal ambient air due to lower water content. Whether you can actually tell the difference on a road car I'm not sure.

As I understand it the whole nitrogen filling thing is a handy money making scheme based on the fact that F1 teams use nitrogen rather than any real difference in performance. Apparently F1 teams use it because they have compressed nitrogen anyway (for the air wrenches) so it simplifies things.