Stupid things non petrolheads say....

Stupid things non petrolheads say....

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xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
I can kind of understand absolute basic spec if you're getting an Astra or an i30 or similar but not on a 3 Series or other nice car.
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).

OneLittleFish

10 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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xRIEx said:
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Aye, in that instance but not on HP. It's more the attitude of "More things to go wrong, innit" that got me.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
xRIEx said:
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Aye, in that instance but not on HP. It's more the attitude of "More things to go wrong, innit" that got me.
He doesn't mean it. He just couldn't afford the options (which is understandable given how absurdly expensive they are). I am more concerned that you didn't, like a true PHer, only ask about the engine, the suspension and whether or not he is going to dump the run flats! smile

0llie

3,007 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
Someone at my work ordered a 3 series in the last week. Asked them what kind of options they'd went for and they went "Nothing much really, more things to go wrong, innit?"
I think I could live with an 'option-less' 335i! smile

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
xRIEx said:
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Aye, in that instance but not on HP. It's more the attitude of "More things to go wrong, innit" that got me.
Do you not have to pay for things that go wrong if it is on HP then?

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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berlintaxi said:
OneLittleFish said:
xRIEx said:
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Aye, in that instance but not on HP. It's more the attitude of "More things to go wrong, innit" that got me.
Do you not have to pay for things that go wrong if it is on HP then?
Nope. It will be within warranty.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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berlintaxi said:
OneLittleFish said:
xRIEx said:
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Aye, in that instance but not on HP. It's more the attitude of "More things to go wrong, innit" that got me.
Do you not have to pay for things that go wrong if it is on HP then?
We were talking cost of purchase, not cost of repair.

If it's brand new I'd assume those things that go wrong would be covered under warranty anyway. As ORD said, the guy's response was a little white lie to save manhood points when being confronted with "why did you buy the poor person's version of the car?"

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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xRIEx said:
OneLittleFish said:
I can kind of understand absolute basic spec if you're getting an Astra or an i30 or similar but not on a 3 Series or other nice car.
If they're leasing it then base spec is most likely the best value, options very quickly increase the monthly payment (I believe the option cost is often paid in full over the lease term).
Usually the best lease deals are not on the pov-spec because these deals are driven by the need to create desirable approved used stock with low miles (that they can flog second time round with expensive finance, etc.)

The last thing they want is a bunch of manual 316i ES models with cloth seats, no parking sensors and castors instead of wheels. (At the moment the cheapest 3-Series on lease is probably a 330d M Sport, which comes pretty well equipped - more to go wrong perhaps!).

That said, options do tend to be paid for in full over the lease even if they add value at the end.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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CYMR0 said:
Usually the best lease deals are not on the pov-spec because these deals are driven by the need to create desirable approved used stock with low miles (that they can flog second time round with expensive finance, etc.)

The last thing they want is a bunch of manual 316i ES models with cloth seats, no parking sensors and castors instead of wheels. (At the moment the cheapest 3-Series on lease is probably a 330d M Sport, which comes pretty well equipped - more to go wrong perhaps!).

That said, options do tend to be paid for in full over the lease even if they add value at the end.
Sorry yes, your last paragraph is basically what I meant to say.

retrorider

1,339 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
douglasb said:
There is a one word description for those people who stick their noses into other peoples' businesse and tell everyone else how to live - "Socialist".
Total aside to the thread but it amazes me how people misconstrue socialism. I vote socialist but it's because I think that the NHS and other public services shouldn't fall into private hands, that more affordable housing should be built and that the minimum wage should be a living wage.
Good luck with your socialist hopes, but please tell me how are we going to pay for it with a National debt of £1.5 trillion and rising ?

OneLittleFish

10 posts

114 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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retrorider said:
Good luck with your socialist hopes, but please tell me how are we going to pay for it with a National debt of £1.5 trillion and rising ?
I'm not going to get into a political debate but if you think that the way to repair this country is to make the richest people richer as the austerity measures have then good luck to you.

blueg33

35,843 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
retrorider said:
Good luck with your socialist hopes, but please tell me how are we going to pay for it with a National debt of £1.5 trillion and rising ?
I'm not going to get into a political debate but if you think that the way to repair this country is to make the richest people richer as the austerity measures have then good luck to you.
Labour Party are not proper socialists. They are just crap at maths.

Blown2CV

28,804 posts

203 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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stupid things the unwashed electorate say.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Blown2CV said:
stupid things the unwashed electorate say.
Lol, I was going to post something similar but arguing politics with the average 'tax the rich, they're evil and deserve it' brigade is like arguing religion with a paedophile/catholic priest.

Jabosoc

2,335 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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TheLordJohn said:
Lol, I was going to post something similar but arguing politics with the average 'tax the rich, they're evil and deserve it' brigade is like arguing religion with a paedophile/catholic priest.
OT but one day someone is going to give me a reasonable explanation to me why higher earners pay a higher percentage of tax. Most who argue in favour of this system struggle to get their heads around the fact that higher earners are already paying more tax because 20% of a lot is more than 20% of a little.

tomjol

532 posts

117 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Jabosoc said:
OT but one day someone is going to give me a reasonable explanation to me why higher earners pay a higher percentage of tax. Most who argue in favour of this system struggle to get their heads around the fact that higher earners are already paying more tax because 20% of a lot is more than 20% of a little.
Because they can more easily afford it.

Next!

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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OneLittleFish said:
I'm not going to get into a political debate but blah di blah di blah
Looks like you just did!

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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So, non-petrolheads, eh? Those silly scamps with their funny sayings!

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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tomjol said:
Jabosoc said:
OT but one day someone is going to give me a reasonable explanation to me why higher earners pay a higher percentage of tax. Most who argue in favour of this system struggle to get their heads around the fact that higher earners are already paying more tax because 20% of a lot is more than 20% of a little.
Because they can more easily afford it.

Next!
Why not just take all the money from the top 10%? They are only 10%, after all so cannot really fight back. rolleyes

blueg33

35,843 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Back on topic

My next door neighbour has one of those horrible Peugeot 306 covertibles

last weekedn she said

I dont like my car, it doesnt drive very nicely and the boot is too small, I think I might change it

foolishly, I asked if she had test driven it and what she might change it for

The answer

I never test drive cars its a waste of time. I think I'll probably get another one the same
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