Push Bike Road Tax
Discussion
Ok before you reply I cycle as well.
When I cycle I stick to cycle lanes as I feel they are safer than riding on the road, from reading the reply’s on PHs a lot of the arguments are that they are crap/full of rubbish.
Now there’s also loads of people on here saying that cyclists should pay road tax as paying road tax on a car does not mean you can apply this to your push bike or any other vehicle (we all know road vehicles have to be taxed individually)
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As I said I cycle and would not moan about paying this (I also pay over £200 car tax) you may say that car tax should be paying for this already but it doesn’t and never will.
When I cycle I stick to cycle lanes as I feel they are safer than riding on the road, from reading the reply’s on PHs a lot of the arguments are that they are crap/full of rubbish.
Now there’s also loads of people on here saying that cyclists should pay road tax as paying road tax on a car does not mean you can apply this to your push bike or any other vehicle (we all know road vehicles have to be taxed individually)
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As I said I cycle and would not moan about paying this (I also pay over £200 car tax) you may say that car tax should be paying for this already but it doesn’t and never will.
PAULJ5555 said:
Ok before you reply I cycle as well.
When I cycle I stick to cycle lanes as I feel they are safer than riding on the road, from reading the reply’s on PHs a lot of the arguments are that they are crap/full of rubbish.
Now there’s also loads of people on here saying that cyclists should pay road tax as paying road tax on a car does not mean you can apply this to your push bike or any other vehicle (we all know road vehicles have to be taxed individually)
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As I said I cycle and would not moan about paying this (I also pay over £200 car tax) you may say that car tax should be paying for this already but it doesn’t and never will.
Are you really saying cyclists should be the only people paying road tax?When I cycle I stick to cycle lanes as I feel they are safer than riding on the road, from reading the reply’s on PHs a lot of the arguments are that they are crap/full of rubbish.
Now there’s also loads of people on here saying that cyclists should pay road tax as paying road tax on a car does not mean you can apply this to your push bike or any other vehicle (we all know road vehicles have to be taxed individually)
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As I said I cycle and would not moan about paying this (I also pay over £200 car tax) you may say that car tax should be paying for this already but it doesn’t and never will.
As I will be cycling instead of driving, do I get money off my car tax?
The VAST majority of cyclists don't have cycle lanes to use so they use the normal roads which they pay for in car road tax (I don't know any cyclists who do not own a car other than kids).
It would be impossible to administer - bikes don't have reg plates etc. How do you differentiate between leisure cyclists (many off road most the time anyway), commuters, kids and so on.
Personally I think it's a ludicrous idea. Why not also push a pedestrian road tax to pay for pavements?
The VAST majority of cyclists don't have cycle lanes to use so they use the normal roads which they pay for in car road tax (I don't know any cyclists who do not own a car other than kids).
It would be impossible to administer - bikes don't have reg plates etc. How do you differentiate between leisure cyclists (many off road most the time anyway), commuters, kids and so on.
Personally I think it's a ludicrous idea. Why not also push a pedestrian road tax to pay for pavements?
for starters, since when is your road tax going towards the maintenance of the roads?, let alone cyclists paying to clean the cycleways. I cycle to work and back everyday. Seems pointless, as quicker by bike than the car, and I use cycle lanes too. Strangely the footpath next to it is smooth and the cycle lane has dips and gulleys etc.
The old age cyclists paying for using the road can never be policed. Can you imagine stopping a 7 yr old and giving him a ticket for 'not taxing' his bike.
I have 5 bikes, so does that mean I tax all of them, as I also have 3 cars and have to tax all of those..............
The old age cyclists paying for using the road can never be policed. Can you imagine stopping a 7 yr old and giving him a ticket for 'not taxing' his bike.
I have 5 bikes, so does that mean I tax all of them, as I also have 3 cars and have to tax all of those..............
PAULJ5555 said:
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As long as it was ringfenced that's not all that bad of an idea. But it wouldn't be, would it?Personally I recon you should have a mandatory 3rd party insurance for bikes (and everything else allowed on the road) before you talk about taxing bikes...
Just my tuppence.
C
Cycle lanes just make cycling more dangerous anyway.
If don't have the road craft to cycle, then I don't think you should be on the road. I think a test will be far more use than a tax.
I cycled on the road from about 7 years old. Trouble is kids these days don't until they get the communter bike at 25 and are a bloody nightmare.
If don't have the road craft to cycle, then I don't think you should be on the road. I think a test will be far more use than a tax.
I cycled on the road from about 7 years old. Trouble is kids these days don't until they get the communter bike at 25 and are a bloody nightmare.
PAULJ5555 said:
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
Do you mean in the same way that ALL of the current road tax is ploughed straight back into maintaining the roads? 
IMHO the main problem with cycle lanes is that they are designed for people pottering along at less than 10mph on shopping bikes. When you are actually trying to use a bike to get somewhere, travelling at 20+mph they are often woeful. (full of pedestrians and with a giveway and curb at every side road).
At that kind of speed you are often better off and safer in the road where at least you can see and be seen.
But back on topic, no, I wouldn't pay a cycle tax to fund cycle lanes.
At that kind of speed you are often better off and safer in the road where at least you can see and be seen.
But back on topic, no, I wouldn't pay a cycle tax to fund cycle lanes.
redstu said:
I cycle as well as having 2 cars and a motorbike, and Im not paying any more tax!
It should be on petrol anyway , more use = more tax - the only fair way!
+1It should be on petrol anyway , more use = more tax - the only fair way!
Exactly this ..... i pay enough road tax on the two cars and bike i have also .... none of which as we all know actually goes to keeping the roads in a good state of repair, the pothole malarky last winter being a good example, still craters everywhere you look ...... now if i choose to cycle i dont get those tax's back so it would grieve me to have to pay more for using my pushbike ....
Said it all along, if this goverment, previous and any future ones were an actual company, they would go bust pdq the way they run their finances,shambles ......
there are some perfectly decent cycles lanes that I pass on a regular basis on the way into work where I live now & where I lived before; very clean & clear of any rubbish/debris, near enough non existant foot traffic using them, had many many thousands of pounds spent on creating them so that cyclists didn't have to ride on the roads next to them which contain excessive traffic and are not wide enough or have enough stretches with good visibility to allow for easy passing of anything moving slower than the flow (tractors bicycles etc)
So what do the cyclists do, still use the bloody road & gaze at the cyclepath lovingly as they ride next to it while causing traffic jams behind them!
So what do the cyclists do, still use the bloody road & gaze at the cyclepath lovingly as they ride next to it while causing traffic jams behind them!
It could be policed by having a tax disk with your name/address inserted into a bright yellow arm band(change color each year), you put it on before cycling, You only pay once no matter how many bikes you have. Yes they can be faked but like everything else you run the risk of getting caught.
p.s please read the original post before makeing a stupid comments.
p.s please read the original post before makeing a stupid comments.
CraigyMc said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Now what would you say to a cycle tax say £10to20 a year, this money is then used directly to clean/improve cycle lanes and also provide other facilities for cyclists.
As long as it was ringfenced that's not all that bad of an idea. But it wouldn't be, would it?Personally I recon you should have a mandatory 3rd party insurance for bikes (and everything else allowed on the road) before you talk about taxing bikes...
Just my tuppence.
C
trix-a-belle said:
there are some perfectly decent cycles lanes that I pass on a regular basis on the way into work where I live now & where I lived before; very clean & clear of any rubbish/debris, near enough non existant foot traffic using them, had many many thousands of pounds spent on creating them so that cyclists didn't have to ride on the roads next to them which contain excessive traffic and are not wide enough or have enough stretches with good visibility to allow for easy passing of anything moving slower than the flow (tractors bicycles etc)
So what do the cyclists do, still use the bloody road & gaze at the cyclepath lovingly as they ride next to it while causing traffic jams behind them!
Can you send me a google street view link please?So what do the cyclists do, still use the bloody road & gaze at the cyclepath lovingly as they ride next to it while causing traffic jams behind them!
I use some cycle lanes: the new ones from Clapham to central London are OK, but even these have their faults. For example, buses straddle them, you are pressed against the left kerb which means cars turn across your path, and you are in the wrong position to turn right. I certainly don't think the UK government can be trusted to do cycle lanes properly.
Would I pay VED on my bicycle... of course I would! At exactly the same rate as cars.
That would make it £0 per year for a vehicle that produces 0gC02/km.
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