RE: In Detail: Audi Quattro Concept
Discussion
snotrag said:
carter711 said:
Really?
Why not? Same company, same price point (relatively), similar type of range range (ie 2 or 3 models, 185/225/V6 and the 16V/g60/VR6) Same sort of audience, TT based on A3/S3/Golf chassis, Corrado was based on its contemporary golf/passat base, both with a lot of effort put into the styling and general 'aura' of the car.The TT came about not too long after the Corrado died aswell.
it sems pretty obvious to me? anyway, I digress...
vintageracer01 said:
Beefmeister said:
I'm not a fan of the front end, but that will undoubtedly be toned down for production.
This however, looks the dogs wotsits:
This one is definitely more exciting!!!This however, looks the dogs wotsits:
Where did you take this picture?
Apparently it is at the Paris Show, though i don't know why no other websites have pictures of it...
Beefmeister said:
vintageracer01 said:
Beefmeister said:
I'm not a fan of the front end, but that will undoubtedly be toned down for production.
This however, looks the dogs wotsits:
This one is definitely more exciting!!!This however, looks the dogs wotsits:
Where did you take this picture?
Apparently it is at the Paris Show, though i don't know why no other websites have pictures of it...
I turned up hoping to be allowed in, exactly as I was to the equivalent section at the Geneva show, even with my S5 key on me, only to be refused entry. Going into Ferrari, Maserati, Porsche, Bentley etc was no problem but apparently Audi have higher standards.
SR06 said:
Sort out that EVO-X front end, do something with the arches and drop in the current 5-cyl lump and id be banging on the door tomorrow.
But...why have a copy when you could buy an original?
"No I'm not going to buy that Van Gogh im going to buy this print from IKEA"
Cars aren't paintings though now are they!But...why have a copy when you could buy an original?
"No I'm not going to buy that Van Gogh im going to buy this print from IKEA"
+1 on it being better suited to a Corrado concept.
UR Quattro was of its time (I have one) - design was unique
I have no problem with Audi Concepts but no need to link to the past now - that opportunity disappeared when they missed the boat with the URQ's 'successor' the S2. The closest (successor) in copcept the URQ will have is the RS5 IMHO
UR Quattro was of its time (I have one) - design was unique
I have no problem with Audi Concepts but no need to link to the past now - that opportunity disappeared when they missed the boat with the URQ's 'successor' the S2. The closest (successor) in copcept the URQ will have is the RS5 IMHO
kambites said:
Mark Wibble said:
So this isn't achieved by the new Scirocco then...?!
The new Scirocco is rather different in ethos to the Corrado. The Scirocco is largely just a slightly squashed Golf; the Corrado was very different car to the contemporary Golf, having a different wheel base and track, suspension geometry, and indeed just about everything else. I'm not sure, but I think even the TT probably shares more design with the current Golf than the Corrado did with the mk2 or mk3 Golf.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 6th October 13:03
The Corrado replaced the original Scirocco as the new one fills the slot of the Corrado, even if the Corrado was, perhaps, more focussed on driver appeal.
That said, this looks better than the Scirocco, albeit a bit like a truncate A5 (A car in dire need of shrinking if I ever saw one...)
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 6th October 14:30
kambites said:
Mark Wibble said:
So this isn't achieved by the new Scirocco then...?!
The new Scirocco is rather different in ethos to the Corrado. The Scirocco is largely just a slightly squashed Golf; the Corrado was very different car to the contemporary Golf, having a different wheel base and track, suspension geometry, and indeed just about everything else. I'm not sure, but I think even the TT probably shares more design with the current Golf than the Corrado did with the mk2 or mk3 Golf.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 6th October 13:03
As for the Corrado being a 'very different car to the contemporary Golf, having a different wheelbase and track' and 'the TT probably sharing more design with the current Golf than the Corrado did with the mk2 or mk3 Golf,' well the Corrado was actually based on the Mk2 Golf utilising the complete floorpan.
And the Quattro concept? Loving it, bar the front lights/grille treatment. Fortunately there's plenty of time to tweak it!
"...north of £70K"
You gotta be having a laugh.
At £50K I would still rather buy a Cayman S or a Nissan GTR
Limited run or not, its a modern Audi so it will still have no feeling through the steering wheel.
I could imagine it stealing some Evo and WRX orders if it were priced to compete with those cars.
You gotta be having a laugh.
At £50K I would still rather buy a Cayman S or a Nissan GTR
Limited run or not, its a modern Audi so it will still have no feeling through the steering wheel.
I could imagine it stealing some Evo and WRX orders if it were priced to compete with those cars.
marcosgt said:
Isn't that just a factor of the cost cutting of today. I'm sure a Corrado was a more expensive car, in real terms, than the new Scirocco, I wince when I think how much I paid for a Calibra back in 1991!
That's why I think it doesn't fill the same market as the Scirocco. As I understand it, the Corrado was released (perhaps somewhat delusionally) as a competitor for the Porsche 944; in no way does the Scirocco attempt to compete with the Cayman. Brighton Speed said:
As for the Corrado being a 'very different car to the contemporary Golf, having a different wheelbase and track' and 'the TT probably sharing more design with the current Golf than the Corrado did with the mk2 or mk3 Golf,' well the Corrado was actually based on the Mk2 Golf utilising the complete floorpan.
No it didn't. It used the A-group platform at the front and the B-group platform at the rear. I wasn't aware that the Scirocco used the current B-group rear axle though, I thought it was a lengthened version of the Golf one, so maybe they're more similar than I give them credit for. The difference between the Corrado and mk2 certainly feels a lot bigger than the difference between the Scirocco and the mk6. ETA: Actually I wonder if the real difference, is simply that FWD hatchbacks have got so good these days, that there just wasn't as much that VW could tweak to improve the Golf when they build the new Scirocco.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 7th October 08:50
I thought it was audi policy to launch the RS varient in the last 2 years of a models life cycle, they have already launched the RS5, surely this concept or a slightly longer wheel base version will give a hint at what the next A5 will look like, A short wheel base version will be the RS model or be used to return to rallying.
RudeDog said:
"...north of £70K"
You gotta be having a laugh.
At £50K I would still rather buy a Cayman S or a Nissan GTR
Limited run or not, its a modern Audi so it will still have no feeling through the steering wheel.
I could imagine it stealing some Evo and WRX orders if it were priced to compete with those cars.
So would I, probably. Like I said in the article, price-wise, your guess is as good as ours, so I hope they make it if only to see who is right!You gotta be having a laugh.
At £50K I would still rather buy a Cayman S or a Nissan GTR
Limited run or not, its a modern Audi so it will still have no feeling through the steering wheel.
I could imagine it stealing some Evo and WRX orders if it were priced to compete with those cars.
I'd probably go for a Cayman at £50k as well. Or an M3.
But the simple fact is with Audi quality standards, the engineering cost of making it 1300kg, and 400-plus bhp, it's never going to hit the market at a An STi Cosworth or Evo FQ360 price point.
PS - not all Audis have dead steering. Ever driven a circa 2006 RS4 or an R8?
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