RE: Abarth Roadster - Like A Lotus, But Not?

RE: Abarth Roadster - Like A Lotus, But Not?

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otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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kambites said:
Anything else you can buy today, yes. I'd argue that the mk3 MR2 was closer in ethos to the mk1 Elise than the current Elise is.
I have never driven one - do they drive like an S1 then? They certainly got good reviews when they first came out, but they're slower than an S1 and about 100kg heavier than a current S2. They look a lot more luxuriously trimmed than my car - plush seats, fully trimmed dashboard and door cards, no bare metal at all - and they've all got power steering.

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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otolith said:
I have never driven one - do they drive like an S1 then? They certainly got good reviews when they first came out, but they're slower than an S1 and about 100kg heavier than a current S2. They look a lot more luxuriously trimmed than my car - plush seats, fully trimmed dashboard and door cards, no bare metal at all - and they've all got power steering.
They don't really bare much technical resemblance to the S1, and as you say they aren't very fast. They just somehow feel more similar to the K-series engined Elises than the Toyota engined ones do. Maybe it's the weight distribution or maybe it's just me being odd?

jimbro1000

1,619 posts

285 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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otolith said:
kambites said:
Anything else you can buy today, yes. I'd argue that the mk3 MR2 was closer in ethos to the mk1 Elise than the current Elise is.
I have never driven one - do they drive like an S1 then? They certainly got good reviews when they first came out, but they're slower than an S1 and about 100kg heavier than a current S2. They look a lot more luxuriously trimmed than my car - plush seats, fully trimmed dashboard and door cards, no bare metal at all - and they've all got power steering.
I drove the Mk3 MR2 when it first came out over several test days run by Toyota and while it is definitely more of a drivers car than the bloated Mk2, it is no Elise - except that it doesn't have luggage storage worth mentioning (the Elise has more). In terms of ethos, I might be persuaded to agree but the results are still a long, long way off. Performance was lacklustre, on the road it was just a nice quick(ish) car without many of the typical mid-engined foibles but on track it was tedious there is simply no other way to describe it. The Celica (also new at the same time) was far more entertaining and handled better which should illustrate how off the mark the MR2 was (and probably still is - I haven't driven one since).

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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I never understood why they didn't put the Celica's engine in the MR2.

johnycarrera

1,935 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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We've got two PH guys that go on all the Scottish and Borders runs with V6 Toyota engined Mk3 MR2s, they really shift......... But off topic!

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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otolith said:
Didn't spot that - slightly more credible then, but where's the image from, does it say?
Got myself a copy - the image is made up by AutoCar by applying elements of Abarth's 60's models to the scale and layout of the current Elise. That article says that it won't be Elise based, though, instead using a spaceframe chassis, so I think the rendering of an Elise with Abarth badges is unlikely to be anything like the real car.

654pm

2 posts

173 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Js had to join this site to get a few things straight about abarth , so its my first PC ,

I did the final score on the roadster concept , and the engine for the alfa C4 . Not sure whats all goin on in there but im assuming they have the hydraulic valve engine in one somewhere .

The score was too design the car to the best of abilitys around the use of the citreon C1 gearbox , which has the diff on the front , the one that I would have thought just gone staight into the lotus glovebox .

Hey , I do all the work around here , anyway thats why it looks like an elise . minus the hugh induction system off the front of the car , concept or no concept , which nicked off the front of my lancia prisma .lol

I hope nobody reads this , because I aint supposed to own the company , nobody is allowed to do any work and well , by no suggestion is anydody going to pimp out the alfa C4 !


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farrendahl

1,248 posts

175 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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654pm said:

Js had to join this site to get a few things straight about abarth , so its my first PC ,

I did the final score on the roadster concept , and the engine for the alfa C4 . Not sure whats all goin on in there but im assuming they have the hydraulic valve engine in one somewhere .

The score was too design the car to the best of abilitys around the use of the citreon C1 gearbox , which has the diff on the front , the one that I would have thought just gone staight into the lotus glovebox .

Hey , I do all the work around here , anyway thats why it looks like an elise . minus the hugh induction system off the front of the car , concept or no concept , which nicked off the front of my lancia prisma .lol

I hope nobody reads this , because I aint supposed to own the company , nobody is allowed to do any work and well , by no suggestion is anydody going to pimp out the alfa C4 !


meeeeeeeow
And now in English?