Just bought a Rover 25 with issues ~
Discussion
My understanding is that any 'trailer' beyond a certain weight should be braked via the tow hitch.
I think this is where the alleged 'ruling' on towing cars with 'A' frames comes from - the car being towed exceeds the maximum permissible unbraked towing weight.
No mention of it on the Department For Transport site though.
I think this is where the alleged 'ruling' on towing cars with 'A' frames comes from - the car being towed exceeds the maximum permissible unbraked towing weight.
No mention of it on the Department For Transport site though.
Edited by TonyRPH on Sunday 28th November 16:56
Dave J said:
I see on your earlier posts the pistons have moved position , obviously you turned the crank .
did you use a torque plate and liner clamps or else the bearings and liners seals could be goosed
Hi Dave,did you use a torque plate and liner clamps or else the bearings and liners seals could be goosed
Others have also raised that point elsewhere.
When the Crankshaft was rotated to access the pistons and bores for cleaning, the liners were held down with wood placed across the top of the block and heavy weights applied. In any event, with the cylinder head removed, the Crankshaft was not rotated more than 180 degrees in any direction during the 'head off' period.
JumboBeef said:
MGJohn said:
Collected it yesterday using an A-Frame.
I thought long distance towing with an A frame was illegal...........?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4H7rQj_J4o&NR=...
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MGJohn said:
JumboBeef said:
MGJohn said:
Collected it yesterday using an A-Frame.
I thought long distance towing with an A frame was illegal...........?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4H7rQj_J4o&NR=...
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Few days ago I removed the Pre-Cat O2 sensor and although it looked fine to my inexperienced eyes, clean ashen coloured with just a tinge of creamy-beige, I gave it a light brushing wire a wire brush. Looked much the same and then put it back.
I also replaced the Fuel Filter as although I had nothing really to go on I suspected it was possibly blocked. Not certain but, I suspected this to be the reason for the sound of my fuel pump working overtime all the time ~ never known that before in any of all the various Rovers and MGs I've driven.
I then used the recently purchased OBDII SCAN TOOL to clear the DTC [ Code P 0170 ] and turn off the MIL light [ Check Engine Light ]
That was over one hundred miles ago including an eighty mile Motorway round trip and no sign of the light coming on again.
Fingers crossed.
I used the Google search facility suggested by traineecollins over on MG-R.org and read at least a dozen threads on the subject of the DTC P0170 and not one provided a clear cut answer to the Fuel Trim Malfunction Bank 1 error. It is a very common DTC across a vast range of cars from many manufacturers and can be a right PITA to identify and rectify.
Was the problem on your car ever rectified ? ...
... I've a good mind to chase up all those open case threads on this very common fault as none of those I read up had a conclusion or suggested remedy. Maybe all that was needed was replacing a possibly blocked fuel filter ... No one of those threads mentioned this possibility.
As I said .... fingers crossed. I believe in this instance, it was the fuel filter rather than the Oxygen sensor that was the reason for this problem although I have no direct evidence to support this, just a gut reaction as replacing it seems to have cleared the fault. It was the only item replaced. The Spark Plugs and 02 sensors being cleaned the only other work that could play a part. They did not really need it.
I also replaced the Fuel Filter as although I had nothing really to go on I suspected it was possibly blocked. Not certain but, I suspected this to be the reason for the sound of my fuel pump working overtime all the time ~ never known that before in any of all the various Rovers and MGs I've driven.
I then used the recently purchased OBDII SCAN TOOL to clear the DTC [ Code P 0170 ] and turn off the MIL light [ Check Engine Light ]
That was over one hundred miles ago including an eighty mile Motorway round trip and no sign of the light coming on again.
Fingers crossed.
I used the Google search facility suggested by traineecollins over on MG-R.org and read at least a dozen threads on the subject of the DTC P0170 and not one provided a clear cut answer to the Fuel Trim Malfunction Bank 1 error. It is a very common DTC across a vast range of cars from many manufacturers and can be a right PITA to identify and rectify.
Was the problem on your car ever rectified ? ...
... I've a good mind to chase up all those open case threads on this very common fault as none of those I read up had a conclusion or suggested remedy. Maybe all that was needed was replacing a possibly blocked fuel filter ... No one of those threads mentioned this possibility.As I said .... fingers crossed. I believe in this instance, it was the fuel filter rather than the Oxygen sensor that was the reason for this problem although I have no direct evidence to support this, just a gut reaction as replacing it seems to have cleared the fault. It was the only item replaced. The Spark Plugs and 02 sensors being cleaned the only other work that could play a part. They did not really need it.
liner33 said:
Wire brushing a o2 sensor?? I thought they are really delicate and easily damaged
The one on this car has a domed protective shield over it and it was that, and the screw threads which I used the wire brush on. I hate it when spark plugs or screw in sensors have crud in their threads making it impossible to screw them into place with fingers alone before final tightening to correct torque setting.MGJohn said:
DannyVTS said:
erm, the bottom pic is slightly smaller cylinders and looks brand new? 
I love the look of your Trophy Blue ZS, unfortunately it has made me look at how much they are going for
Seem to be a lot of car for the money, little bargains.
Neither is brand new ~ top car 50,000 miles and bottom 77,500.I love the look of your Trophy Blue ZS, unfortunately it has made me look at how much they are going for
Seem to be a lot of car for the money, little bargains.
Find a nice ZS or ZT one and it will indeed be a bargain. Have you driven a ZS yet ? ... as ordinary production cars go, and lets face it, most cars are ordinary, it is a very good overall package. BIG bargains I would suggest...
thanks for that, absolutely great read
as stated, if it's treated right, there's no reason why a K-Series won't keep storming on until the end of time
at college there was a lad who had a 45 1.6. it had been in his family since brand new in 2001. his grandmother bought it then, and passed it on to his immediate family on her sad death in 2002
at which point it had 5,000 miles
since then, it's been used as a real workhorse. garden shed, 3 kids learning to drive and having it for a year each, towing, field 'rallying'. it's amazing how it's stood so much abuse
now with 80k or so showing on the clock it's still perfect. all members of the family have their own cars and it's 'spare' now, waiting for the youngest sibling to learn to drive. in April though, when I was waiting for my car to be ready I borrowed it for a week or so. I absolutely loved it. The whole thing felt solid, it went well, it was economical. And above all, UNBELIEVABLY comfortable
I didn't want to give it back, even with the impending arrival of my Corsa, which I think would be chosen above a 45 for most people, given the choice
I've always had a LOT of love for Rover. my first car myself was an 83,000 mile 216. fantastic little thing
it's great to see that others feel like me
I was riveted to this thread and very disappointed when it ended
good luck to your son with his purchase
as stated, if it's treated right, there's no reason why a K-Series won't keep storming on until the end of time
at college there was a lad who had a 45 1.6. it had been in his family since brand new in 2001. his grandmother bought it then, and passed it on to his immediate family on her sad death in 2002
at which point it had 5,000 miles
since then, it's been used as a real workhorse. garden shed, 3 kids learning to drive and having it for a year each, towing, field 'rallying'. it's amazing how it's stood so much abuse
now with 80k or so showing on the clock it's still perfect. all members of the family have their own cars and it's 'spare' now, waiting for the youngest sibling to learn to drive. in April though, when I was waiting for my car to be ready I borrowed it for a week or so. I absolutely loved it. The whole thing felt solid, it went well, it was economical. And above all, UNBELIEVABLY comfortable
I didn't want to give it back, even with the impending arrival of my Corsa, which I think would be chosen above a 45 for most people, given the choice
I've always had a LOT of love for Rover. my first car myself was an 83,000 mile 216. fantastic little thing
it's great to see that others feel like me
I was riveted to this thread and very disappointed when it ended
good luck to your son with his purchase
John, You sound like my dad and my uncle, i.e. commited MG/Rover enthusiasts/zealots/fundamentalists
they have a ZT each, my dad the 190 and my unlce the 260,
My uncle also has a BRM (I had one for a bit but it had HGF)
My dad also bought an MG ZT TD auto for my mum
I have moved on but still quite like them and dont like the bashing from the uninformed, they wenrent perfect but made some quite nice cars that are better than the reputation, makes me laugh when people that slag them off from who own Audis and the like keep quiet when theirs goes in for a new gearbox, oil pump or whatever !
they have a ZT each, my dad the 190 and my unlce the 260,
My uncle also has a BRM (I had one for a bit but it had HGF)
My dad also bought an MG ZT TD auto for my mum
I have moved on but still quite like them and dont like the bashing from the uninformed, they wenrent perfect but made some quite nice cars that are better than the reputation, makes me laugh when people that slag them off from who own Audis and the like keep quiet when theirs goes in for a new gearbox, oil pump or whatever !
J4CKO...
Nice selection of rovers there ...
.......
There's an old saying ..... there's no substitute for class... class will out ... it obviously runs in your family....
My next serious car purchase will be a MG ZT 260. No new cars have any appeal of late .... I bid on one on ebay recently and it went for a snip of a price. The thing that stopped me continuing to bid was the colour ~ I want Trophy blue but, this fine example on offer was one of those special Rover paint finishes which would be difficult to match if ever you needed a repair.
Over the fifty years of owning cars, I get more pleasure from getting someone's problem car up and running well again than taking delivery of any new car ... something I've done many times over the years, both private purchases and company cars.
The little Rover 25 has now done 800 miles since my repairs. It starts immediately even in this very cold weather and runs well.
My elder son has several cars including an S2 Lotus Elise, plus several Rovers and MGs. However, he needs a reliable spacious car for his work as he travels and for that, his Rover 620ti serves him well. Now showing close to 180,000 miles...
One of his little Rover projects ~ a 200vi with the K-Series VVC engine is the subject of another of my threads here:~
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
and
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I took it for its MoT test for him yesterday after he swapped the engines as shown in the thread. The original engine had a persistent oil leak which in the car, we were unable to identify let alone rectify. He bought another engine out of a Scrappage MGF VVC so he was told and thus was not able to see it running, only the vendor's words to go on and that could be risky. The engine is the best VVC I've ever driven. The little car flies... he plans to sell the 200vi soon ... Glad about that as it has taken up too much room in front of our garages for too long... Here it is on the ramps during the MoT test. I explained why the engine change and the friendly tester called me over and shone his inspection lamp up around the engine ~ dry as a bone... Passed with a single advisory to renew rear brake pads soon ... Sorted. Here it is :~
Best of all, my life long friend who queried why I had bought a new MG Metro back in 1983. After all, as he said, it was only a "Tarted up Metro"... I tossed him the keys and we took a ride. Less than a week later, he took delievery of an MG Metro ... Funny old game folks and cars .... The little Metro was ideal for getting about London where he lived... That sort of thing has happened quite a few times over the years.
I have just arranged the purchase of a 51 Rover 45 ... with issues... ... I'm a glutton for punishment ... if it ever gets warmer, I'll break out my spanners ... once I get my tools back from my son... and may put up another thread ....
Nice selection of rovers there ...
...
....There's an old saying ..... there's no substitute for class... class will out ... it obviously runs in your family....
My next serious car purchase will be a MG ZT 260. No new cars have any appeal of late .... I bid on one on ebay recently and it went for a snip of a price. The thing that stopped me continuing to bid was the colour ~ I want Trophy blue but, this fine example on offer was one of those special Rover paint finishes which would be difficult to match if ever you needed a repair.
Over the fifty years of owning cars, I get more pleasure from getting someone's problem car up and running well again than taking delivery of any new car ... something I've done many times over the years, both private purchases and company cars.
The little Rover 25 has now done 800 miles since my repairs. It starts immediately even in this very cold weather and runs well.
My elder son has several cars including an S2 Lotus Elise, plus several Rovers and MGs. However, he needs a reliable spacious car for his work as he travels and for that, his Rover 620ti serves him well. Now showing close to 180,000 miles...
One of his little Rover projects ~ a 200vi with the K-Series VVC engine is the subject of another of my threads here:~
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
and
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I took it for its MoT test for him yesterday after he swapped the engines as shown in the thread. The original engine had a persistent oil leak which in the car, we were unable to identify let alone rectify. He bought another engine out of a Scrappage MGF VVC so he was told and thus was not able to see it running, only the vendor's words to go on and that could be risky. The engine is the best VVC I've ever driven. The little car flies... he plans to sell the 200vi soon ... Glad about that as it has taken up too much room in front of our garages for too long... Here it is on the ramps during the MoT test. I explained why the engine change and the friendly tester called me over and shone his inspection lamp up around the engine ~ dry as a bone... Passed with a single advisory to renew rear brake pads soon ... Sorted. Here it is :~
iain_thornton said:
thanks for that, absolutely great read
as stated, if it's treated right, there's no reason why a K-Series won't keep storming on until the end of time
at college there was a lad who had a 45 1.6. it had been in his family since brand new in 2001. his grandmother bought it then, and passed it on to his immediate family on her sad death in 2002
at which point it had 5,000 miles
since then, it's been used as a real workhorse. garden shed, 3 kids learning to drive and having it for a year each, towing, field 'rallying'. it's amazing how it's stood so much abuse
now with 80k or so showing on the clock it's still perfect. all members of the family have their own cars and it's 'spare' now, waiting for the youngest sibling to learn to drive. in April though, when I was waiting for my car to be ready I borrowed it for a week or so. I absolutely loved it. The whole thing felt solid, it went well, it was economical. And above all, UNBELIEVABLY comfortable
I didn't want to give it back, even with the impending arrival of my Corsa, which I think would be chosen above a 45 for most people, given the choice
I've always had a LOT of love for Rover. my first car myself was an 83,000 mile 216. fantastic little thing
it's great to see that others feel like me
I was riveted to this thread and very disappointed when it ended
good luck to your son with his purchase
Your story is not that unusual. Lost count of the many times I given folks lifts in my cars over the years who had never considered a rover and they were genuinely surprised at the level of spec in my cars, and the way they go, particularly the MG and Rover turbos.... These cars are much better than many people ever anticipated. some of those then sold their BMWs and Volvos and got Rover replacements... I kid you not. Giving a neighbour a lift home from a wedding reception late one evening, I used the 620ti's acceleration to pass a line of cars. He admitted he had no idea a Rover could perform like that. He, like millions of other Brits, never bothered to find out.as stated, if it's treated right, there's no reason why a K-Series won't keep storming on until the end of time
at college there was a lad who had a 45 1.6. it had been in his family since brand new in 2001. his grandmother bought it then, and passed it on to his immediate family on her sad death in 2002
at which point it had 5,000 miles
since then, it's been used as a real workhorse. garden shed, 3 kids learning to drive and having it for a year each, towing, field 'rallying'. it's amazing how it's stood so much abuse
now with 80k or so showing on the clock it's still perfect. all members of the family have their own cars and it's 'spare' now, waiting for the youngest sibling to learn to drive. in April though, when I was waiting for my car to be ready I borrowed it for a week or so. I absolutely loved it. The whole thing felt solid, it went well, it was economical. And above all, UNBELIEVABLY comfortable
I didn't want to give it back, even with the impending arrival of my Corsa, which I think would be chosen above a 45 for most people, given the choice
I've always had a LOT of love for Rover. my first car myself was an 83,000 mile 216. fantastic little thing
it's great to see that others feel like me
I was riveted to this thread and very disappointed when it ended
good luck to your son with his purchase
Best of all, my life long friend who queried why I had bought a new MG Metro back in 1983. After all, as he said, it was only a "Tarted up Metro"... I tossed him the keys and we took a ride. Less than a week later, he took delievery of an MG Metro ... Funny old game folks and cars .... The little Metro was ideal for getting about London where he lived... That sort of thing has happened quite a few times over the years.
I have just arranged the purchase of a 51 Rover 45 ... with issues...
... I'm a glutton for punishment ... if it ever gets warmer, I'll break out my spanners ... once I get my tools back from my son... and may put up another thread .... John, just to spoil the illusion.....
This is them misbehaving, finsishing off some old tyres, not typical at all but why not, in reality these are two of the most pampered and pristine cars I know of, immaculate in every way and totally cherished (unlike my Saab) but,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sf58KoemM
Not perfect (first attempt) but was good fun and there were no ill effects, it is three or four years ago now, my uncle also has a Jowett Jupiter, in fact 2 of my uncles do.
I like the 25 and 200, I was gutten when my Headgasket went and subsequently our repairs didnt work (sunk liner I think), the car went to Scotland and lives on with a T series turbo in it, the BRM was really fun, nice to drive car, mine went when I had just got it running right after the previous owners tuning, a cold air feed where he stuffed one pipe into another, to draw cold air to make more, power, wrong ! the crushed pipe acted as a restrictor, removing it and letting it breathe standard under bonnet air made it rev much better, then the HG went
This is them misbehaving, finsishing off some old tyres, not typical at all but why not, in reality these are two of the most pampered and pristine cars I know of, immaculate in every way and totally cherished (unlike my Saab) but,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sf58KoemM
Not perfect (first attempt) but was good fun and there were no ill effects, it is three or four years ago now, my uncle also has a Jowett Jupiter, in fact 2 of my uncles do.
I like the 25 and 200, I was gutten when my Headgasket went and subsequently our repairs didnt work (sunk liner I think), the car went to Scotland and lives on with a T series turbo in it, the BRM was really fun, nice to drive car, mine went when I had just got it running right after the previous owners tuning, a cold air feed where he stuffed one pipe into another, to draw cold air to make more, power, wrong ! the crushed pipe acted as a restrictor, removing it and letting it breathe standard under bonnet air made it rev much better, then the HG went
J4CKO said:
John, just to spoil the illusion.....
This is them misbehaving, finsishing off some old tyres, not typical at all but why not, in reality these are two of the most pampered and pristine cars I know of, immaculate in every way and totally cherished (unlike my Saab) but,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sf58KoemM
Not perfect (first attempt) but was good fun and there were no ill effects, it is three or four years ago now, my uncle also has a Jowett Jupiter, in fact 2 of my uncles do.
I like the 25 and 200, I was gutten when my Headgasket went and subsequently our repairs didnt work (sunk liner I think), the car went to Scotland and lives on with a T series turbo in it, the BRM was really fun, nice to drive car, mine went when I had just got it running right after the previous owners tuning, a cold air feed where he stuffed one pipe into another, to draw cold air to make more, power, wrong ! the crushed pipe acted as a restrictor, removing it and letting it breathe standard under bonnet air made it rev much better, then the HG went
K-Series cylinder head gasket renewal is a doddle ~ I've now done three including on my MGZS 120+ bought new in 2003 ... which did NOT need doing...... The coolant loss was the initial wear signs of a wearing water pump which I was convinced was the gasket ... I believed the negativity .... WRONG!. I wonder how many K-Series gaskets have been replaced which did not need doing. One brave soul on another site actually admitted changing at least one hundred which did not need doing... Nice little earner in the trade apparently. I removed a perfectly sound cylinder head gasket from my ZS's engine...This is them misbehaving, finsishing off some old tyres, not typical at all but why not, in reality these are two of the most pampered and pristine cars I know of, immaculate in every way and totally cherished (unlike my Saab) but,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sf58KoemM
Not perfect (first attempt) but was good fun and there were no ill effects, it is three or four years ago now, my uncle also has a Jowett Jupiter, in fact 2 of my uncles do.
I like the 25 and 200, I was gutten when my Headgasket went and subsequently our repairs didnt work (sunk liner I think), the car went to Scotland and lives on with a T series turbo in it, the BRM was really fun, nice to drive car, mine went when I had just got it running right after the previous owners tuning, a cold air feed where he stuffed one pipe into another, to draw cold air to make more, power, wrong ! the crushed pipe acted as a restrictor, removing it and letting it breathe standard under bonnet air made it rev much better, then the HG went
It was the water Pump wot did it ... and indeed that was the cause of the 'failure' on this Rover 25 on this thread.
When I learnt to drive most cars were rear wheel drive. Smokin tyres has never appealed to me ... Clarkson likes doing it ..... nuff sed. Still with old tyres .... but stressing the transmission that way must add wear to the components. OK for old barges but they are tidy looking ZTs and the V8 has always been a rare car.
Jowett Jupiters!!!! CLASS with a Capital K! Last time I saw one of those in regular daily use I was a schoolboy ...
Think I've seen two on the roads since then... Rear engined flat fours IIRC or have I lined up my two remaining memory cells wrongly ... Morningside said:
MGJohn said:
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Then used the garden hose in the rad's top hose :~
So obvious. Why did I not think of that one?Then used the garden hose in the rad's top hose :~
Thanks for a great read. I have always liked my Rovers. My last one was a "H" reg 827 Sli - I still miss it and have not seen one in a very long time.
Ahah ~ IIRC, the 827s had a Honda V6.... one of the Rover Group ~ Honda partnership ventures. I had a Rover 800 Vitesse ~ with the Rover T16 Turbo engine ... I like the Rover T16 Turbos...we have several in the family :~
Rover's best kept secret ~ bit like the ZT260 .... Underestimated by many from day one... Good eh...
Yeah, not typical behaviour but the rest of the way they are looked after means that they are still way better than 99 percent of them still out there, they take wheels off to clean them and stuff like that.
Wont be doing another K series again, cant see me buying another car with it in, they are all over six years old now and having been bitten, even being realistic about it, I wouldnt want to bother again, I barely use my car as it is and cant see me buying another K series engined car, but who knows I still look at BRM's and get a slight urge
You should say Hi to my uncle Greg if on the MG Owners forums, funnily enough he posts as "Jowett" so is easy to spot, I suspect you would get on well being fellow "Roverists", the Jupiter was indeed a Flat Four but front engined, he has had it since my dad sold it to him in the sixties, use to drive it as a daily during the seventies, occasionally pops round in it, had a Javelin Saloon as well for a while.
Wont be doing another K series again, cant see me buying another car with it in, they are all over six years old now and having been bitten, even being realistic about it, I wouldnt want to bother again, I barely use my car as it is and cant see me buying another K series engined car, but who knows I still look at BRM's and get a slight urge
You should say Hi to my uncle Greg if on the MG Owners forums, funnily enough he posts as "Jowett" so is easy to spot, I suspect you would get on well being fellow "Roverists", the Jupiter was indeed a Flat Four but front engined, he has had it since my dad sold it to him in the sixties, use to drive it as a daily during the seventies, occasionally pops round in it, had a Javelin Saloon as well for a while.
Ferg said:
Hey John, just a question for you.
My VVC is coming up for an oil change and it's been sounding a little tappety. What should I put in it? Your diesel detergent idea sounds interesting....
Yes, I wouldn't hesitate to put a GOOD BRAND Diesel grade engine oil in it for a thousand or so miles. Longer will not do any harm. Rover recommend 10-40 semisynthetic oil for their cars. Diesel engine oil is much the same stuff with additional detergents and additives in it to cleanse the dirtier running contaminents resulting from burning Diesel Fuel. They are not called Oil Burners for nothing.My VVC is coming up for an oil change and it's been sounding a little tappety. What should I put in it? Your diesel detergent idea sounds interesting....
Petrol engines also create contaminents of course that's why clean oil comes out filthy black when the oil is changed. Those diesel detergents will help clear away the 'varnish' deposits on things like cam followers ( also known as tappets ) allowing them to move more smoothly and freely ( less noisy ) as well as clearing some of the contaminent loaded sludge which builds up in all engines with time and use and does not drain come oil change time. Diesel oil in Petrol engines always looks much blacker when it is drained.
I only use it in used car engines I buy as you cannot really be certain how well the car has been mainatained in previous ownership irrespective of the stamps in the 'history'. Cars I have had from new like my MG ZS I have not used it in. I simply changed the oil in that car every 5-6,000 miles. Once a year in fact as that's what the main user does each year.. my wife. Good brand 10-40 semisynthetic is not expensive if you shop around and buy in bulk like I do. A neighbour said the old oil I drained from my ZS looks better than his new stuff 100 miles after the oil change....
... Contaminents.Over the years, every used car I treated with the diesel grade Oil has benefitted in some ways. Some remarkably so. Noisy tappets suddenly run near silent. Better throttle response and in the case of my MG Montego turbo bought ten years ago, faster acceleration and up to higher speeds far quicker. Yes, far quicker.
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EDIT to add @ 11:53:~
Delighted with the car the subject of this thread, on impulse I bid on another Rover with HGF isssues. It was a Rover 45 and my cheeky low bid was successful. Long story short, I've been driving this Rover 45 for the past couple of months and despite far from ideal driving conditions for most of that time, I've been very surprised at just how well the car goes despite having the smaller 1.4 K-Series. It's frugal fuel consumption is an additional bonus. Even driving it in an uneconomical way.
I put up a thread on it over on the MG-R.org site if you're interested to read about replacing the cylinder head gasket. Here it is:~
http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=394887
Both previous owners of these cars sensibly stopped using them soon after they saw the signs that something was not right. so no more serious damge was done as can be the case when drivers carry on using the car ignoring those first signs. I was able to find the cause of both 'failures'. The 25 was simply a worn water pump allowing progressive loss of coolant. A new water pump siorted that ... £25. The 45 lost coolant from the Coolant Outlet elbow on the cylinder head. The two retaining bolts on the elbow were only finger tight. There were signs that the car had been serviced shortly before I bought it. Why were those bolts loosened... Apparently when removing a coolant hose, it helps if the elbow is removed so that it can be twisted to release the hose still very tightly fixed grip to the elbow even when the worm drive 'jubilee' clip is undone. Failure to retighten easily done if distracted by a phone call ofr whatever.
There's always a reason for these things. Trick is finding them. failure to identify the causes can mean another problem. Simply a matter of time.
We now have two cars running well for little more than loose change and a few hours careful work. To say that we are delighted with them would be an understatement.
Edited by MGJohn on Sunday 6th February 11:53
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