RE: Pic Of The Week: Top 5 Driver's Cars 'Ever'
Discussion
wildman0609 said:
Liquid Knight said:
Why's the Porsche there? Driving one of those is like having the sword of adamocles hanging over your head. Understeer in spin out (not oversteer out due to the ballance point being about an Inch).
everyone's idea of a drivers car is different, and the drivers car i enjoyed the most would be one that is very tricky on the limit, because the reward when you get things just right is amazing. The 935 SE Turbo was my poster car growing up (still have it framed somewhere) but like the E-Type it was disappointing in the end.
The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).
If I had to own a "widow maker" it's be a Cobra rather than a 911 turbo.
Rouleur said:
perscott said:
Well, this brings back memories for me...
A very nice post. It would be great if we had more posts from you and fewer from the morons who claim to know more about the cars in question than those who have driven them.Liquid Knight said:
Why's the Porsche there? Driving one of those is like having the sword of adamocles hanging over your head. Understeer in spin out (not oversteer out due to the ballance point being about an Inch).
One guy giving us a first hand account of successfully rallying an early 911, the other from someone who, given his comments, has never actually driven one properly.It's a real shame that stuff like this are the norm on here, and posts like Perscotts are few and far between. It almost makes me embarrassed about loving cars.
Almost, but not quite.
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 18:18
HAB said:
Rouleur said:
perscott said:
Well, this brings back memories for me...
A very nice post. It would be great if we had more posts from you and fewer from the morons who claim to know more about the cars in question than those who have driven them.Liquid Knight said:
Why's the Porsche there? Driving one of those is like having the sword of adamocles hanging over your head. Understeer in spin out (not oversteer out due to the ballance point being about an Inch).
One guy giving us a first hand account of successfully rallying an early 911, the other from someone who, given his comments, has never actually driven one.It's a real shame that rubbish like this are the norm on here, and posts like Perscotts are few and far between. It almost makes me embarrassed about loving cars.
Almost, but not quite.
"It's a real shame that rubbish like this are the norm on here"
It's a real shame that over critical Octane readers post on here poo-pooing other people opinions when it goes in any way against the grain to make themselves feel better about their own narrow mindedness.
Liquid Knight said:
It's a real shame that over critical Octane readers post on here poo-pooing other people opinions when it goes in any way against the grain to make themselves feel better about their own narrow mindedness.
Don't read Octane, it's full of pompous moneyed tw@ts. What I was taking umbrage with is that the stuff you wrote below is just patent b
ks -Liquid Knight said:
Understeer in spin out (not oversteer out due to the ballance point being about an Inch).
I own a 964 and have also driven a few older models including a 2.4S, and they don't handle like the way you describe in any way. At all.In fact, what you wrote above sounds exactly like the usual pub talk, from people that have never driven one.
Since everyone I've met that have actually driven one are also aware that the 'spit you off the road in a second' stuff is an urban myth, I reserve the right to question your description above.
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 18:58
Liquid Knight said:
The 935 SE Turbo was my poster car growing up (still have it framed somewhere) but like the E-Type it was disappointing in the end.
The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Just noticed this - have you really driven a 935?The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 19:14
HAB said:
Liquid Knight said:
The 935 SE Turbo was my poster car growing up (still have it framed somewhere) but like the E-Type it was disappointing in the end.
The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Just noticed this - have you really driven a 935?The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 19:14
Liquid Knight said:
HAB said:
Liquid Knight said:
The 935 SE Turbo was my poster car growing up (still have it framed somewhere) but like the E-Type it was disappointing in the end.
The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Just noticed this - have you really driven a 935?The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 19:14
Liquid Knight said:
HAB said:
Liquid Knight said:
The 935 SE Turbo was my poster car growing up (still have it framed somewhere) but like the E-Type it was disappointing in the end.
The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Just noticed this - have you really driven a 935?The other Porsches I've driven have been the "ok but nothing special" ones the 924, 944, a 1980 basic 911 Carrrera (magic eye seats and red braces as standard).)
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 19:14
http://www.specialistcarsltd.co.uk/item/383/catid/...
Don't know why the link failed to post before. Maybe due to PH mod's and advertising.
Don't know why the link failed to post before. Maybe due to PH mod's and advertising.
car crazy said:
Having owned a Cerbera and driven a Ferarri 360 challenge stradale and a lambo murcielager lp640 i would put all 3 above any of the 5 on the list.
A TVR is a beautifully sorted thing isn't it? The amount of detailed aero work and chassis development that went into that car is amazing. The consistency of control weighting must have taken those geniuses in Blackpool years to develop before releasing the car to a slavering public. I heard it took them at least a year to choose which tyre offered the best combination of optimum sidewall hysteresis and minimal treadblock shuffle when operating at temperatures between 82 and 85 degrees C. 900T-R said:
HAB said:
Don't read Octane, it's full of pompous moneyed tw@ts.
I don't have any money. At all. Still I find lately I'm enjoying Octane more than Evo (which is saying something). I just tend to skip the watches section...
I've sympathy with both perspectives. The editorial columns in Octane DO tend to be pompous and rather self-aggrandising - esp. Carroll Shelby's. And the 'market' section does appeal mostly to the monied reader.
But that aside, some of the articles are genuinely informative and well-written, and I really enjoy Octane as a change. Evo, by contrast, has over the last few years headed more-and-more towards the £100k+ market - the "fantasy" market for most of us. Which is a real shame as evo always used to be 'cars for us'...the current issue being a complete case in point.
Did they say what criteria were used, to select the cars on the list, without seeing that, it would be difficult to make up a list of suitable cars for the 5 top drivers cars ever. Otherwise it just means that to a certain small group of individuals, the cars shown were felt to be `their' best top 5 drivers cars ever?
Ps just to add that I wouldnt argue about any of the cars shown in the article not having the right to be there, its just that I know a few more, that from `my' experience, and viewpoint would be as good or even better, depending (as noted before' on what the criteria was used for selecting a particular car) Surely this is just a subjective look, I mean, does price come into it as well?
I remember reading a similar article supposedly about `DRIVERS' cars, and one of the contributors was whingeing about luggage space FFS!
I remember reading a similar article supposedly about `DRIVERS' cars, and one of the contributors was whingeing about luggage space FFS!
HAB said:
Liquid Knight said:
It's a real shame that over critical Octane readers post on here poo-pooing other people opinions when it goes in any way against the grain to make themselves feel better about their own narrow mindedness.
Don't read Octane, it's full of pompous moneyed tw@ts. What I was taking umbrage with is that the stuff you wrote below is just patent b
ks -Liquid Knight said:
Understeer in spin out (not oversteer out due to the ballance point being about an Inch).
I own a 964 and have also driven a few older models including a 2.4S, and they don't handle like the way you describe in any way. At all.In fact, what you wrote above sounds exactly like the usual pub talk, from people that have never driven one.
Since everyone I've met that have actually driven one are also aware that the 'spit you off the road in a second' stuff is an urban myth, I reserve the right to question your description above.
Edited by HAB on Saturday 6th November 18:58
I've had 2 964s and driven a couple of older t/b cars in the wet, and unless you're a complete ape behind the wheel, they are a sensory treat.
Edited by appletonn on Monday 8th November 08:25
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