RE: Driven: Lotus Evora S
Discussion
apparently, Tech Pack (sat nav, cruise, upgraded speakers, bluetooth, rear park sensors and tyre pressure monitoring) is available for free if car ordered by year end. Tech Pack costs £2550.
also, dealer says it's possible to avoid 20% VAT by paying 17% deposit for delivery in 2011 -- since unlikely to get an S before year end.
anyone else heard this?
also, dealer says it's possible to avoid 20% VAT by paying 17% deposit for delivery in 2011 -- since unlikely to get an S before year end.
anyone else heard this?
torres del paine said:
Dynamics aside, I wish it was better looking.
It is odd from most angles - not a looker.
I was less than convinced until I saw one in the metal...It is odd from most angles - not a looker.
However I think when seen up close it is much better looking than anything Porsche offer, and has quite a unique "lotus" look.
It just doesn't seem to photo well for some reason...
My biggest complaint about Evora's since they came out is that for the performance their price was too high to compete with the nearest Porsche models, the Cayman.
I think now though that even though its a jump in price again the performance difference makes it now highly competitive against the likes of 911's. After all. the base price of a 911 Carrera 2 is not the price people will ever pay.
Still can't afford one though.
Mikeyboy
I think now though that even though its a jump in price again the performance difference makes it now highly competitive against the likes of 911's. After all. the base price of a 911 Carrera 2 is not the price people will ever pay.
Still can't afford one though.
Mikeyboy
jazzyjeff said:
shoestring7 said:
Pistonheads bloke said:
It'll hit 60mph from rest in 4.6sec (4.8sec to 62mph, a tenth quicker than a 911 Carrera and a good deal quicker than a Cayman S
Porsche quote 0-62mph in 4.9seconds for a Cayman 'S' with PDK.I wish Lotus well, but I'm afraid it looks very expensive compared to a £44k Cayman 'S', and will inevitably be a more risky ownership proposition.
SS7
Once you add in the extras that should have been standard equipment you're surely looking at > £55k?
JJ
S'funny how there's always stuff on PH's mourning the lack of simple, inexpensive lightweight sports cars, and yet you feel its necessary to stick £11k of tinsel at one of the best available.
SS7
torchy6 said:
Just doesn't do it does it? Inferior quality and looks to most of the opposition. Yes it has the performance now but how many buyers go for ultimate peformance? IMHO should be no more than 40k ish. Two of these or a MacLaren - no contest!
have you seen how much a fully specced Golf is???? It makes an Evora look a bargin 
shoestring7 said:
If you choose to throw all the doo-dah's on the options list at it maybe. Expensive all-electic seats, sat navs, stereo's, big wheels, dead cow and carbon pits and pieces don't really improve the drive at all - arguably they make it worse.
S'funny how there's always stuff on PH's mourning the lack of simple, inexpensive lightweight sports cars, and yet you feel its necessary to stick £11k of tinsel at one of the best available.SS7
Totally agree, if I was was buying a new Cayman S (or Evora, for that matter) it would be bare bones. Just don't understand all this speccing up malarkey...S'funny how there's always stuff on PH's mourning the lack of simple, inexpensive lightweight sports cars, and yet you feel its necessary to stick £11k of tinsel at one of the best available.
SS7As for the Evora, I genuinely hope it's a success, but I just can't get over the looks & proportions; in particular the front end.
I also think at the price, Lotus really need a bespoke engine & drivetrain. Whether you like it or not, the engine is a huge part of of the complete sportscar package.
HAB said:
Whether you like it or not, the engine is a huge part of of the complete sportscar package.
True, but I think most manufacturers will start moving away from it, as smaller turbocharged engines start to become the norm, even for sports cars. I see nothing wrong with shared block and head designs, really. You can give an Engine unique enough characteristics purely by modifying the crank dimensions and valve train. However, in this case it does seem that Lotus haven't really done enough in that respect. Maybe it's just too expensive to do the development work to meet modern emissions regulations for such a small number of cars?
I guess comparing the Evora to a Cayman or bottom end 911, you're trading engine characteristics against handling, which is obviously a matter of personal choice.
Edited by kambites on Monday 8th November 16:22
ManOpener said:
A fantastic looking car spoiled by fussy wheels and the wrong rear lights. It would would look a million times better with some simpler, classier wheels and single-piece rear lights rather than those 90's-E-Class-Front tailights.
Couldnt agree less, the wheels really suit the car IMOI really do like the looks and the power.
What I don't understand is how they get it that heavy - this looks like bad engineering.
I have a 996 GT2 - it weights exactly the same - OK, it's not the same price class but the 996 is quite a bit larger and sheetmetal not plastic. It has a lot more power an therefore needs stronger (heavier) mechanics.
What did Lotus do?
(by the way, looking at the classifieds, you get a good shape 996 gt2 for less than the Evora S...I'd know what to do...)
What I don't understand is how they get it that heavy - this looks like bad engineering.
I have a 996 GT2 - it weights exactly the same - OK, it's not the same price class but the 996 is quite a bit larger and sheetmetal not plastic. It has a lot more power an therefore needs stronger (heavier) mechanics.
What did Lotus do?
(by the way, looking at the classifieds, you get a good shape 996 gt2 for less than the Evora S...I'd know what to do...)
speedsix said:
I really do like the looks and the power.
What I don't understand is how they get it that heavy - this looks like bad engineering.
I have a 996 GT2 - it weights exactly the same - OK, it's not the same price class but the 996 is quite a bit larger and sheetmetal not plastic. It has a lot more power an therefore needs stronger (heavier) mechanics.
What did Lotus do?
(by the way, looking at the classifieds, you get a good shape 996 gt2 for less than the Evora S...I'd know what to do...)
Where are you finding a 2-3 year old Evora S for comparison? Or is it the usual "look how much better value used cars are" viewpoint - absolutely correct but we still need people to buy the NEW cars for them to be on the used market for us.What I don't understand is how they get it that heavy - this looks like bad engineering.
I have a 996 GT2 - it weights exactly the same - OK, it's not the same price class but the 996 is quite a bit larger and sheetmetal not plastic. It has a lot more power an therefore needs stronger (heavier) mechanics.
What did Lotus do?
(by the way, looking at the classifieds, you get a good shape 996 gt2 for less than the Evora S...I'd know what to do...)
Zad said:
Deranged Granny said:
Zad said:
Over 1400kg! 
Even my old XR4x4 with an iron block engine and the 4x4 gubbins is less than 1300kg!
I'd rather be in the Evora than your XR4x4 in the event of a crash.Even my old XR4x4 with an iron block engine and the 4x4 gubbins is less than 1300kg!
There are 20+ year old Lotuses on the roads now, why would the Evora be any different? Obviously not many of them will survive that long but then not many XR4x4s have either.Zad said:
Deranged Granny said:
Zad said:
Over 1400kg!
Even my old XR4x4 with an iron block engine and the 4x4 gubbins is less than 1300kg!
I'd rather be in the Evora than your XR4x4 in the event of a crash.Even my old XR4x4 with an iron block engine and the 4x4 gubbins is less than 1300kg!
Oh wait.
Edited by Deranged Granny on Monday 8th November 16:47
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