RE: New Porsche Cayman R Revealed

[ChrisW.]

£40K will buy you a very nice GT3 MK1 Clubsport --- 1 of 28 and with real investment potential. Ten years old and a genuine 185 mph motor that doesn't understeer and can retain this performance with both aircon and a radio --- for those Radio 4 moments.

IMO this is very disappointingly --- timid, tedious, tame. Not worth missing my T 4.

[RobM77]

This is all true (GT3 mk1 and 997 Turbo etc), but we're comparing new with secondhand here, which whilst relevant for each of our buying decisions, isn't really relevant for discussing the new price of a car! Both those 911s are getting on for £100k new in today's money.

[adycav]

I think that I'd sooner have a Boxster Spyder, but this is all based on conjecture as I haven't driven either and I could be talking bks.

[Beefmeister]

adycav said:

I think that I'd sooner have a Boxster Spyder, but this is all based on conjecture as I haven't driven either and I could be talking bks.

In my experience a Cayman S is (subjectively) about 25% better than a Boxster S.

Most journos have said that the Boxster Spyder is 25% better than the S, so... er... where was i going with this?

The Cayman R is going to be precisely 27.832% betterer than a Cayman S, 78.234% betterer than a Boxster 2.7, and it could beat your dad up in a fight.


Must stop drinking bourbon before 8pm...

[adycav]

Beefmeister said:

adycav said:

I think that I'd sooner have a Boxster Spyder, but this is all based on conjecture as I haven't driven either and I could be talking bks.

In my experience a Cayman S is (subjectively) about 25% better than a Boxster S.

Most journos have said that the Boxster Spyder is 25% better than the S, so... er... where was i going with this?

The Cayman R is going to be precisely 27.832% betterer than a Cayman S, 78.234% betterer than a Boxster 2.7, and it could beat your dad up in a fight.


Must stop drinking bourbon before 8pm...

I was with you until the dad bit, my dad's well 'ard you'd need a GT2RS to beat him.

[Niffty951]

RobM77 said:

This is all true (GT3 mk1 and 997 Turbo etc), but we're comparing new with secondhand here, which whilst relevant for each of our buying decisions, isn't really relevant for discussing the new price of a car! Both those 911s are getting on for £100k new in today's money.

Fair point, just dusting the standard Covette argument which appears on every sports car clip on youtube but I don't have the time to reply to them all!

[Porscheplayer]

adycav said:

I think that I'd sooner have a Boxster Spyder, but this is all based on conjecture as I haven't driven

and I could be talking bks.

most honest post ever.well done

[adycav]

Porscheplayer said:

adycav said:

I think that I'd sooner have a Boxster Spyder, but this is all based on conjecture as I haven't driven

and I could be talking bks.

most honest post ever.well done

Careful, I'll send havoc around to bum you with his NSX

[RobM77]

Niffty951 said:

RobM77 said:

This is all true (GT3 mk1 and 997 Turbo etc), but we're comparing new with secondhand here, which whilst relevant for each of our buying decisions, isn't really relevant for discussing the new price of a car! Both those 911s are getting on for £100k new in today's money.

Fair point, just dusting the standard Covette argument which appears on every sports car clip on youtube but I don't have the time to reply to them all!

Oh yes, I'm with you on that one. Cars come in many flavours. I like mine light, nimble and power is a nice to have feature. Some people like their cars powerful, and light and nimble is a nice to have. Different folks and all that.

[bobberz]

I like the car, but that colour is even worse than Ford's "Legend Lime" (a remake of the '60s Limegold).

[juansolo]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Nail on the head.

My brother has a Spyder and it really is a very special thing. I don't know why as there's not that much difference to an S, but it really is. It's a stonking piece of kit and it set the bar high. If the Spyder didn't exist there wouldn't be any of this discussion about the R, it would just be another model. I personally was hoping they were going to do a Spyder'd Cayman. I'd really have been interested in that. Again, there's little difference and it really is the small details that have gone against this car. But it's all the small things together that make the Spyder great.

Edited by juansolo on Thursday 18th November 23:05

[Sideways Rich]

OK, who has driven a Cayman and a 911 back-to-back? Who went on to buy the 911? And who the Cayman?!?
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was convinced I wanted a rear wheel drive 911 and went to buy a C2S, credit to the salesman he had me drive the whole range and I decided on a Cayman S Sport absolutely no regrets just a desire for a 997 GT3 next!

[zakelwe]

Do you get the feeling this car is satisfying nobody?

We have people on this thread wetting their pants because it has the air con removed
We have people on this thread wetting their pants because it hasn't lost 200kg.

For both sets of people this car does not hit the right buttons.

Move on, nothing to comment on.

It will make Porsche money though. Lets face it, Audi can make money by dropping a new niche number in. They had A2, A3, A4, A6, A8. Now A1, and A5 and A7Q5 as well ... damn that is cunning.

Porche haven't got that niche type stream of money for new models, so they make niche streams out of existing ones.


It' the new world order I am afraid.

Andy

[sleep envy]

zakelwe said:

Northern Andy

odd thing to post for someone who now lives in civility

[zakelwe]

sleep envy said:

zakelwe said:

Northern Andy

odd thing to post for someone who now lives in civility

I keep taking my pit pony out every day to take it down the mine in Sevenoaks only to be sadly disappointed.

Instead I spend all day in Canary Wharf and Dobbin just eats grass in a field adjacent to the A21 near the speed camera before the Tonbridge turnoff

I think I'll change my name to Quentin

Regards

Quentin R

[sleep envy]

Do you really think making yourself even more of a target is advisable?

[sledge68]

i dont see how my integrale is compromised,

6 consecutive world rally championships and voted one of the best a to b cars ever, how is that compromised??

havoc said:

sledge68 said:

havoc said:

FesterNath said:

Are you sure that it is sensible to be driving so hard on public roads that a delay of fractions of a second can cause the car to slide?

One word: Ice

get 4wd

And compromise your car for the other 11 months of the year? What a daft idea...

[sledge68]

thats how boring the porsche is, i'd rather talk to myself

adycav said:

sledge68 said:

Legacy Legacy Legacy

With all due respect, nobody seems interested.

You appear to be having a discussion with yourself.

This is how dxb335d started.

[havoc]

Sledge - there was a wink at the top of my post...don't always take me seriously!

[kambites]

Does anyone know how much this weighs if you put the air con (and stereo) back in? I would be interesting to know how much weight they've saved elsewhere.