RE: PH Heroes: BMW 3.0 CSL 'Batmobile'

RE: PH Heroes: BMW 3.0 CSL 'Batmobile'

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Johnpidge

588 posts

190 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Dang - thats just stunning!!!!!!!

635csi

125 posts

172 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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I saw these cars race in the 70s.
Jaguar took them on with a fantastic looking XJ12c "Big Cat".
The Jags were fast but the BMWs were light, poised and not made by BL.

British Beef

2,219 posts

166 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Those were some pretty special cars, with proper body kits.

Makes the modern M3 light weight specials and race derivates look rather pathetic.

jamespink

1,218 posts

205 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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ManOpener said:
dinkel said:
Yummie:











Portimao, Algarve Historic 2010.
That was the one I was taking about earlier, not the green one I posted.
Thanks
This is what its all about! How can anyone with a pulse not get excited about these cars, built without compromise by some of the finest engineers in the world. Superb! The green Gosser beer car I think was the Tim Hignet car (Tunbridge Wells BMW)

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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That was great read..who is this Dom Haltam character? Was he responsible for the whole piece or just that poetic paragraph at the end? I am too thank chris -R?
Either way Thanks.

pounder

14 posts

183 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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The BMW 3.0 CSL 'BATMOBILE' - is a bh and I spanked it.

anything fast

983 posts

165 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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my favourite ever BMW, even beats the M1 for me!!!!

pSyCoSiS

3,600 posts

206 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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What an epic machine, and a true BMW icon.

Look amazing and so menacing in race guise, like the photos that some have posted up on this article.

AdamPT

191 posts

164 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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stunning motors....the most beautiful BMWs ever, slim pillars (don't roll 'em!!) great glasshouse, perfect proportions....shame cars can't look like this anymore. I had a csi (photo attached) for a few years and dreamt about dropping an M5 motor and box in but didn't have the time, money or garage space to do it....would have requiored a fair bit of modification too. Genuine batmobile csl's are heading north of 100k these days and even a well sorted bog standard csl is 45k plus (non-auction). Thanks for a great article, made me smile....

LuS1fer

41,136 posts

246 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Fabulous car and the last BMW I liked.

dinkel

26,957 posts

259 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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LuS1fer said:
Fabulous car and the last BMW I liked.
The regular ones can be picked up for under 5K!

havoc

30,083 posts

236 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Dagnut said:
...who is this Dom Haltam character?
If memory serves he's one of the lead journos either in PPC or in the (now-defunct) "Performance Car". Think PPC.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

205 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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I love this car. In my top three all-time favourite cars.

DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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And this ladies and gentleman is why I get so angry at ppl thinking the last M3 CSL thing was in anyway worthy.

One of my earlier memories is Dieter Questor, Alpina Batmobile on 1 wheel coming over a yump.

I believe the Stuck full airborn pic was also used in one of the Top Trumps Production Sports car packs smile

Bobdenero

187 posts

196 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Just a fantastic looking car, although not sure if I prefer the unadorned CS - would love to be in the position to choose either!

tali1

5,266 posts

202 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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When new the Batmobile was more expensive than even a Rolls Royce Shadow-hence they ,afaik, sold only 9 cars in UK

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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"By the time the Batmobile appeared in 1973, the engine had been stroked to 3153cc, producing 203bhp and 215lb ft of torque. Enough to give it a 0-60mph time of 7.3 seconds and a top speed of 137mph"

And then there were the 57 cars made in 1974, and of those some went to Alpina for 250ps, 5 speed Getrag boxes, adjustable roll bars etc.

A legend, and interesting to see prices matching those of the 911RS from the same era.

Paul Drawmer

4,878 posts

268 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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I had a jigsaw of the black car flying - left it in a Keystone Garage in Bournemouth by mistake.


I sold new BMWs at that time.

We had a CSL on the fleet as a demo – bloody wonderful

Sold one to a chicken farmer, who insisted on a sun roof.

Now the CSL had a lightweight steel roof, and BMW said sun roofs couldn’t be fitted.
So our customer bought a CSi instead.

We fitted Alpina wheels, and the stainless wheel arch ‘eyebrows’.
Then we took it to the UK Alpina concessionaire to be breathed on. He, a certain Mr Brian ‘Yogi’ Muir, did some work on the head, changed the cams, and fitted different limit switches to the fuel injection.
To get it converted, we drove the new CSi from Tonbridge to Pershore getting to Mr Muir’s residence at 08:30, and collected the car a week later. It was a great drive back, I remember it now, nearly 40 years later.

So, our chicken farmer didn’t get his CSL, but he did get an Alpina tuned CSi with sun roof and air con. It was our most expensive sale for some time!

I drove a batmobile on the road. LHD as they all were. All went well, until I stopped off for petrol at the self-service in Tonbridge.
When I got back in the car, I had to pretend I was looking for something in the glove box.
It’s not cool getting in the wrong side of a supercar.

The ONLY car I’ve ever driven, where people really stopped and stared. Well, it was Tonbridge in the 70s.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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For fans of the original CSL, the book "Unbeatable BMW" by Jeremy Walton is a great read.