Helping in the snow

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Cogcog

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11,800 posts

236 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Sitting here feeling guilty because I can hear a neighbour shovelling snow off the hill outside and another wheel spinning. But should I feel guilty?

I would normally go out and help but last year it became my full time job and I got no work done ( I work from home). This year I have consciously decided to resist becoming an unpaid council employee for the week. I live on a cul-de-sac hill, just at the point where it gets steep enough for any snow and ice to stop people getting up the hill witgh resultant spinning wheels. I ended up pushing , shovelling and gritting all week and then find out that the people were just 'popping to see what the snow looks like on the golf couse' or 'going out to get away from the wife'.

FFS stay at home. You don't need to go out and I am not helping you do it, and neither is my OH who did her back in pushing a neighbours large vauxhall up the hill so he could pop to the golf club bar for a lunchtime sniffter.


Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Push them back down, that'll learn 'em smile

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.

cal72

7,839 posts

171 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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And rightly so.
My OH works for a company that has gritting contracts and last year we had the gritter parked outside our house all winter needless to say our road was always clear.
She now has changed roles and will not be doing the same this year so the lazy gets can do it themselves.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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littleandy0410

1,745 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Sneak out when no one's looking and put down buckets of water! wink

I'd just stay in myself, unless I needed to go out myself at some point - then I'd help beforehand. (Or I would've parked my car at the top of the hill the night before!)

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

190 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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mattdaniels said:
We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.
I know what you mean, Matt. It gives you proper status in the community! biggrin

DE15 CAT

355 posts

162 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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BBQ. & tea £5. sounds good, but that takes effort, no best money making idea put up sign saying practical advice £5 per tip.

Advice like 'when you can see its this bad don't drive up here'. There's enough thick people to be grateful and thank you.

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Stu R said:
Push them back down, that'll learn 'em smile
This hehe

Even better with that winched Land Rover.. So you clearly have the power to help if you felt like it. biggrin

Cogcog

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11,800 posts

236 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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isn't the line between the liounge and general gassing a fine one????

Dogwatch

6,239 posts

223 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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littleandy0410 said:
Sneak out when no one's looking and put down buckets of water! wink
Simply sweeping or shovelling snow is unlikely to put you on the receiving end of a writ. Chucking buckets of water which then freezes would have the compo lawyers circling like vultures however.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Print out some of the winter tyre threads from here and become a winter tyre preacher

Denis O

2,141 posts

244 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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mattdaniels said:
We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.
Please ensure you help no one driving a Pious or wearing sandles and looking pasty.

andrewrob

2,913 posts

191 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Me and a few friends tried to help a woman in a Zafira trying to get up my road last year. Four of us pushing (other cars had easily got up) but she kept flooring it and spinning the wheels up. I tried to explain to her it would be better to crawl up the hill with a tiny amount of pedal but she wouldn't listen and did it again. We left her to it then.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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mattdaniels said:
We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.
Be careful otherwise you may end up with a nice collection of bumpers as modern cars have nothing to attach a towrope to. Most have those nasty little screw in towing eyes but some have nothing. The wifes honda is like trying to tie onto a giant bar of soap so its off into the workshop this afternoon to have some towropes attached underneath and cable tied onto the bumpers

Eggman

1,253 posts

212 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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mattdaniels said:
We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.
Be very sure you know how to use that winch safely or you might end up having more of an adventure than you bargained for.

In terms of the amount of caution required during use, I have electric winches mentally categorised in the same compartment as chainsaws and angle grinders (i.e. a moment's carelessness = potential for life changing injury). Unless you're aware of the circumstances that might lead to you becoming the victim of a traumatic amputation or even a degloving injury (these are particularly gruesome!), my advice would be to do a little reading first.

ChrisRS

1,787 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Eggman said:
mattdaniels said:
We bought a Land Rover this year with a winch. I can't wait to go and use it for something like this round by us.
Be very sure you know how to use that winch safely or you might end up having more of an adventure than you bargained for.

In terms of the amount of caution required during use, I have electric winches mentally categorised in the same compartment as chainsaws and angle grinders (i.e. a moment's carelessness = potential for life changing injury). Unless you're aware of the circumstances that might lead to you becoming the victim of a traumatic amputation or even a degloving injury (these are particularly gruesome!), my advice would be to do a little reading first.
Agreed, heard some really nasty stories involving winches, this time of year i just have a 4 tonne tow strap and shackle connected to the back of the disco permenently and even then i'm selective who i help after the amount of abuse i got last year whilst offering to help others.

Edited by ChrisRS on Saturday 27th November 11:42

Eggman

1,253 posts

212 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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ChrisRS said:
Agreed, heard some really nasty stories involving winches, this time of year i just have a 4 tonne tow strap and shackle connected to the back of the disco permenently and even then i'm selective who i help after the amount of abuse i got last year whilst offering to help others.

Edited by ChrisRS on Saturday 27th November 11:42
Even if I had an electric winch fitted (which I don't, for the above reasons and because they are a thief magnet), I would be extremely hesitant about winching a stranger - especially without a lot of insurance in place. If they're that stuck - tough.

forsure

2,121 posts

269 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Cogcog said:
isn't the line between the liounge and general gassing a fine one????
Isn't it just? hehe Think yourself lucky you didn't end up in 'Jobs & Employment'.

rallycross

12,846 posts

238 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Sounds like you are in a bit of a unique spot where you are, I always help people who are stuck as I hope the same will happen to us next time we get stuck.

I once got stuck on 31st Dec on a hill road in the middle of nowhere (on way home) and I really thought I was in trouble, even though I had a shovel I couldnt get it out and was on my own.

The snow had been blown across the field and was exiting via a gated entrance so I'd suddenly hit 3 foot of snow across the road whereas everywhere else it was only a few inches. Was contemplating walking back to the nearest village (3 miles) when a load of hill walkers appeared from nowhere and helped me dig/push it out! What a bit of luck that was.