RE: Open Season: Too shy to go all the way?
Discussion
2woody said:
these were pretty much all done because the manufacturer wanted a convertible, but the bodyshell rigidity wouldn't allow it without some, er, interesting handling effects. Certainly two out of the three in the article pre-dated a "full" convertible, whilst the Scimitar would probably just fold in the middle if you removed the bar.
Slightly off topic, but why do Porsche offer a targa and 'vert option for the 911? Anyone have a rough idea of percentage of sales?TommyBuoy said:
Slightly off topic, but why do Porsche offer a targa and 'vert option for the 911? Anyone have a rough idea of percentage of sales?
Dunno, but I have always liked targa-tops, as they offer a reasonable wind-in-the-hair experience without a loss of structural stiffness (as has been mentioned).Were I ever to afford a 911 (very unlikely), I'd be heading for the targa-top model. Although they seem to be generally unpopular and never change hands for as much as other models.
Oli.
Returning to the Citroen Pluriel theme. I know they won't be top of many PHer's "Cars I Really Must Look Out For" lists, but has anyone EVER seen one outside of a showroom or motor show with those damn great roof girders actually removed ? I would have guessed that as it's a Citroen at least some might have just fallen off by now, but I've never seen a Pluriel completely sans roof.
Twoshoe said:
I'm pretty sure I remember a company called Crayford which I suppose was a sort of Dagenham equivalent of Bauer in that it did conversions of Cortinas and the like, but I can't find anything about them on t'web.
correct, they did fiesta's and cortina's, i think they may poss have done some capri's, cool at the time but if you see one now (especially the fiesta) it looks just like a botch job with a giant can opener! 
anything fast said:
Twoshoe said:
I'm pretty sure I remember a company called Crayford which I suppose was a sort of Dagenham equivalent of Bauer in that it did conversions of Cortinas and the like, but I can't find anything about them on t'web.
correct, they did fiesta's and cortina's, i think they may poss have done some capri's, cool at the time but if you see one now (especially the fiesta) it looks just like a botch job with a giant can opener! 
TommyBuoy said:
2woody said:
these were pretty much all done because the manufacturer wanted a convertible, but the bodyshell rigidity wouldn't allow it without some, er, interesting handling effects. Certainly two out of the three in the article pre-dated a "full" convertible, whilst the Scimitar would probably just fold in the middle if you removed the bar.
Slightly off topic, but why do Porsche offer a targa and 'vert option for the 911? Anyone have a rough idea of percentage of sales?I think that they do it now because the cabrio is the "proper" soft-top, whilst the targe is little more than a full sliding sunroof.
What about http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2286637.htm?
(It's an old-shape as there aren't any new-shape Brabus cabs in the classifieds).
(It's an old-shape as there aren't any new-shape Brabus cabs in the classifieds).
You are a brave bunch to be suggesting running an XJS in the snow and salt covered roads!!!
I ran mine through a winter in 2003 and i spent as much time in the petrol stations using the Jet Wash as i did at the pumps putting VPower in!!!
Waxoyl, Waxoyl and more Waxoyl!!!
Ohh and the V12 Jaaag's handling in icy conditions is a very good sphincter workout
I ran mine through a winter in 2003 and i spent as much time in the petrol stations using the Jet Wash as i did at the pumps putting VPower in!!!
Waxoyl, Waxoyl and more Waxoyl!!!
Ohh and the V12 Jaaag's handling in icy conditions is a very good sphincter workout
2woody said:
that proves my point - the targa came out 16 years before the convertible, mainly because it took them that long to work out how not to have it fold up in the middle. Wasn't the targa dropped when the cabriolet came out (1982)
I think that they do it now because the cabrio is the "proper" soft-top, whilst the targe is little more than a full sliding sunroof.
[geek mode] The Targa was developed as as the time it was widely expected that the US was about to ban full convertibles on safety grounds.That's why the TR7 was originally also only offered as a fixed head coupe. As soon as that danger passed, Porsche and many other companies started developing convertible models again.[/geek mode]I think that they do it now because the cabrio is the "proper" soft-top, whilst the targe is little more than a full sliding sunroof.
The Targa was also available as a 964.
2woody said:
the Scimitar would probably just fold in the middle if you removed the bar.
Completely wrong, the Scimitar has a massive separate chassis and the body on the GTE was massively strong in it's own right. According to popular legend no-one has ever been killed in a Scimitar. They are a very very strong car. Roll over bar was for just that.Alfa numeric][geek mode said:
The Targa was developed as as the time it was widely expected that the US was about to ban full convertibles on safety grounds.That's why the TR7 was originally also only offered as a fixed head coupe. As soon as that danger passed, Porsche and many other companies started developing convertible models again.[/geek mode]
The Targa was also available as a 964.
Interesting, thanks. I think the 996 and 997 were (/are) also available as a targa. The Targa was also available as a 964.
Oli.
Edited to add piccie.
Edited by zcacogp on Wednesday 8th December 11:19
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