M3 CSL or Exige S?
Poll: M3 CSL or Exige S?
Total Members Polled: 317
Discussion
This looks nice......
Oh now come on, it was only a matter of time!
http://www.hiltonandmoss.com/vehicle_information.p...
Oh now come on, it was only a matter of time!
http://www.hiltonandmoss.com/vehicle_information.p...
Having a very similiar dilema at the moment. I had a NA exige last year, E46 M3 the year before that and now starting to look for a car again for this year. Exige s pp or csl are the only two proper driver car options in my mind.
Chosen to go for an exige at the moment.
1, Exiges feel properly special to drive/use. Bumpy,noicey, difficult around town, all the things that are 'bad' about it made me enjoy the whole experience more. And obviously awesome out for a thrash.
2, M3 running costs really hurt me before, but most importantly tyres and brakes. Do a couple of track days or a bit of a drift sesh one night and at £270 for a rear it get expensive very quickly.
Chosen to go for an exige at the moment.
1, Exiges feel properly special to drive/use. Bumpy,noicey, difficult around town, all the things that are 'bad' about it made me enjoy the whole experience more. And obviously awesome out for a thrash.
2, M3 running costs really hurt me before, but most importantly tyres and brakes. Do a couple of track days or a bit of a drift sesh one night and at £270 for a rear it get expensive very quickly.
Great Pretender said:
DJC said:
Great Pretender said:
DJC said:
How much do you want to spend GP?
Not a great deal more than the CSL is worth. So about £25k(ish)Im not a great fan of the looks per se, but with a £25k budget Id head straight for a Tamora, take it to Dom and have him do the engine properly, John Quick put a decent exhaust on it and slap a warranty from Dom or Heath on it. Your £25k would give you a rock solid 400pony Tamora, warrantied up.
That would be my logical answer and it would provide better bang for your buck than either the Exige or CSL, nor will you lose much money either short or long term. Tamora values are already at their bottom and Dom worked motors+warranty have finally added the reliability and power gains the market has looked for. As those in the TVR world will probably tell you Im not the Tam's biggest fan, the looks count against it, but for whats being offered at that money its a package there aint much else out there will match.
Or do it with a T350. Same thing applies, inc the looks actually, Im not a great fan of their looks either.
Or go for Loons Cup above.
I'm an out-of-the-box kinda a guy; when I buy something, I expect it to perform the task for which it was designed without the need for (much) modification or wallet pillage.
Ergo I'd be looking in the direction of a <10k mile Exige (or something similar) with the backup of a full and comprehensive warranty.
Was having this very discussion with Norfolk 'Brucie Meyer' Carruthers-Walker II, last neet.
The noble lord was in his 4.5LW some years back with a brace of eminent oink fanciers, one of whom was in a base, 993tt.
Our man set orf from Rouen or some such place (au Panama, naturellement,) only to have the character played by Noel Coward steam past like Blackers was in reverse and you know what? Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
My own 4.5 was routinely unable to dispatch various mid-late 90s fast lane challengista, from Alpinae through to Cossoa.
The venerable Dennis of Compton has lbw'd himself in the mist of his own gimlet eyes, mistaking the undoubted charm of a classic Trebor Mint with actual, automotive resolution.
The comparison is facile.
Dennis, prepare for some abuse.
The problem Der is that I have driven many, many TVR over the years and not one drives the same as the other. I had a 4.lw that was timed in a one off run at a mere 3.not a lot secs to the 60 barrier.
I used said car for a couple of weeks (albeit in pouring rain, for two effin weeks) and believe you me there were not many things I can think of that would have kept pace with that thing. Peering through that narrow screen with the pathetic wipers battling against pleuvait incessant was akin to piloting a Group C monster throgh Le Sarthe as the power is fed back on as you exit that treacherous wet roundabout and power on to the next challenge......
I used said car for a couple of weeks (albeit in pouring rain, for two effin weeks) and believe you me there were not many things I can think of that would have kept pace with that thing. Peering through that narrow screen with the pathetic wipers battling against pleuvait incessant was akin to piloting a Group C monster throgh Le Sarthe as the power is fed back on as you exit that treacherous wet roundabout and power on to the next challenge......
Yes, Loon, sounds like the yellow thing I test drove at the factory in the late 90s, masquerading as a 4.5...
They impart a distinct sense of impending violent slaughter, undoubtedly but their dynamic failings are legion, meaning you have little - no hope of challenging even a Zastava Yugo anywhere beyond your drunken state of monastery raising self-denial.
Even so, I love them with a passion.
They impart a distinct sense of impending violent slaughter, undoubtedly but their dynamic failings are legion, meaning you have little - no hope of challenging even a Zastava Yugo anywhere beyond your drunken state of monastery raising self-denial.
Even so, I love them with a passion.
For a track focused machine for the weekend I would choose the lotus. Lightweight and focused on the job and the purer driving experience.
I have never driven either and so this choice is my subjective opinion. If I were to buy just the one car to do more then weekends driving and track days then I would prefer the CSL as the all rounder. However as you do not have that need, I would go for the Lotus.
I have never driven either and so this choice is my subjective opinion. If I were to buy just the one car to do more then weekends driving and track days then I would prefer the CSL as the all rounder. However as you do not have that need, I would go for the Lotus.
Great Pretender said:
DJC said:
Great Pretender said:
DJC said:
How much do you want to spend GP?
Not a great deal more than the CSL is worth. So about £25k(ish)Im not a great fan of the looks per se, but with a £25k budget Id head straight for a Tamora, take it to Dom and have him do the engine properly, John Quick put a decent exhaust on it and slap a warranty from Dom or Heath on it. Your £25k would give you a rock solid 400pony Tamora, warrantied up.
That would be my logical answer and it would provide better bang for your buck than either the Exige or CSL, nor will you lose much money either short or long term. Tamora values are already at their bottom and Dom worked motors+warranty have finally added the reliability and power gains the market has looked for. As those in the TVR world will probably tell you Im not the Tam's biggest fan, the looks count against it, but for whats being offered at that money its a package there aint much else out there will match.
Or do it with a T350. Same thing applies, inc the looks actually, Im not a great fan of their looks either.
Or go for Loons Cup above.
I'm an out-of-the-box kinda a guy; when I buy something, I expect it to perform the task for which it was designed without the need for (much) modification or wallet pillage.
Ergo I'd be looking in the direction of a <10k mile Exige (or something similar) with the backup of a full and comprehensive warranty.
£15k of Tamora and £10k of Dom.
Job done AND reliable!
But its fair enough, I think the Tam and 350 both look like ugly Welsh stepsisters to me.
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