M3 CSL or Exige S?

[L100NYY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oagnemhy0QA

[derestrictor]

Before lumbering the outhouse with a 200 horse pilchard tin, I drove the then new Toyota engined 111R and Exige version.

I'm quite sure the hard top kills on track but on a B road, the al fresco minor krieg, as lobe profiles changed, circa 4000 rpm (iirc) was redolent of a mini F355 and where whippet roamed free, I preferred the Elise. However, basically, they were simply more propulsively convincing extrapolations of ye olde S1.

Driving back from what was then Ribble Valley Lotus, I recall strafing the Beetlespürter back yem, o'er over the same terrain and whatever mode of set/state of tune it was in at the time, blew both Hethelites away for sheer hooliganism.

Knowing the way you drive and what, if you'll forgive me for presuming, is yon acoustic palate, Banff, you would bore of the robotic drone from the mid engined flyweight in no time and bemoan the dearth of wanton oversteer, in about a month.

We both know the only way from a CSL and it is a human number; it's number is 997...GT3.

[L100NYY]

I fear Der might be right. I'm not entirely convinced the revvy, flyweight and delicate Exige is necessarily you GP.

I know you pedalled one avec my chum Graham up in Scotlandshire but were there any negatives from that drive that you can remember?

[Great Pretender]

L100NYY said:

I fear Der might be right. I'm not entirely convinced the revvy, flyweight and delicate Exige is necessarily you GP.

I know you pedalled one avec my chum Graham up in Scotlandshire but were there any negatives from that drive that you can remember?

The only negative was the humble engine origin and the potential for build quality induced leprosy.

I loved everything else about it. Albeit I could do with a 260bhp variant.

[Mermaid]

derestrictor said:

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We both know the only way from a CSL and it is a human number; it's number is 997...GT3.

I considered the 6GT3 & even the 6GTRS. But concluded that IF I part with my CSL, it will be a 7GT3, preferably a Gen 2.

[L100NYY]

Great Pretender said:

L100NYY said:

I fear Der might be right. I'm not entirely convinced the revvy, flyweight and delicate Exige is necessarily you GP.

I know you pedalled one avec my chum Graham up in Scotlandshire but were there any negatives from that drive that you can remember?

The only negative was the humble engine origin and the potential for build quality induced leprosy.

I loved everything else about it. Albeit I could do with a 260bhp variant.

To clarify, are we talking of replacing the CSL with a standard Exige S or the 240 Performance Pack?

Build quality is not really an issue. I have a 111R here that has done 55k miles and is as tight as a drum with no creaky trim etc.

Edited for carp speeeling.

Edited by L100NYY on Tuesday 14th December 14:48

[harryowl]

Great Pretender said:

stew-S160 said:

Great Pretender said:

stew-S160 said:

CSL over S2 Exige.
S1 Exige over CSL.

Pour quois?

Pretty obvious really. The S1 Exige would be more of an event than even a CSL. The noise they make is great too, ok, not quite CSL mental, but very good. And for the money of a CSL, you could get a Honda'd/charged S1 Exige which would be quite a bit faster.

Hmmm, not many S1s about though and from what I understand, time tends not to be very kind to them.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2068703.htm

Add a superchrger and you could be looking at 300bhp+ easy

Edited by harryowl on Tuesday 14th December 14:41

[ManOpener]

RudeDog said:

This is easy... the Exige obviously.

• It's available in RHD

[nonuts]

I would have the CSL, however I voted for the Exige because I'm thinking it's an itch that you wantneed to scratch even if it's not long term.

[Animala]

Exige, no contest whatsoever

[derestrictor]

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

[L100NYY]

derestrictor said:

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

I concurr.

I know this won't really help GP's case but it is a really tough call between the two, even for me in my position

[robsco]

CSL for the noise.

[derestrictor]

Well said, Loon; I'm a massive Hethelist but am trying to save young Caled - and his sporran - from himself.

[LuS1fer]

RobM77 said:

LuS1fer said:

The M3 on the basis I'm a bit old for track cars and on the basis of having a car that didn't fall apart in your hands.
I suspect I might like the Exige more though....even though I didn't like an Elise 111R at all.

Try one It's far from being a track car. Elises and Exiges ride better than most Porsches down a B road. Plenty of owners use them everyday. It was only really the noise on motorways that used to wind me up.

As noted, I didn't like the 111R and thought it crashed into potholes. I did like a mate's VX220 Turbo though.

[L100NYY]

derestrictor said:

Well said, Loon; I'm a massive Hethelist but am trying to save young Caled - and his sporran - from himself.

To sum up then....

An Exige is more me and a CSL is more him.

Edited by L100NYY on Tuesday 14th December 15:14

[Animala]

derestrictor said:

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

eerr....I think I just did?

Animala said:

Exige, no contest whatsoever

Infact there it is again, just to be sure....

[L100NYY]

Animala said:

derestrictor said:

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

eerr....I think I just did?

Animala said:

Exige, no contest whatsoever

Infact there it is again, just to be sure....

Righto, many thanks for that.

[Animala]

L100NYY said:

Animala said:

derestrictor said:

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

eerr....I think I just did?

Animala said:

Exige, no contest whatsoever

Infact there it is again, just to be sure....

Righto, many thanks for that.

Hey, anytime, don't mention it.

[Great Pretender]

Animala said:

L100NYY said:

Animala said:

derestrictor said:

You simply cannot say no contest; both cars are sublime in various ways.

eerr....I think I just did?

Animala said:

Exige, no contest whatsoever

Infact there it is again, just to be sure....

Righto, many thanks for that.

Hey, anytime, don't mention it.

Bless.