A 'proper job' apparently

[Frp']

Sir_Dave said:

If you dont crash, you're not trying hard enough

<3 The Dave.

Some right silly people in here.

To the early poster who was rather unjustly bad mouthing Cliosport, where I might add the Trophy owner is not a member. The "Sight" as you put it. The 'Site' has gone from strength to strength for your future reference. Cliosport i'll think you'll find does not condone any driving like this.
As anyone would see from the responses in our own thread.

I suggest having some decorum and not slate websites which i'm guessing you're no longer a part of for whatever reason.

In regards to the topic, he's a silly young lad and he deserves to be drawn over hot coals by the Police if they ever get their hands on any of the discussions being had over the net.

It may make him think twice before he kills a family next time.

[alock]

J4CKO said:

Robb F said:

J4CKO said:

None of their business if you don't claim and nobody claims against you, they are only interested in making money, who in their right mind is going to say, well I had a massive accident and wrecked the car, I paid for a new one myself, now please charge me a higher premium for the accident you didn't pay for.

Still, he shouldnt have one, let alone a second one, 110 mph with zero experience, cretin.

You'll find it is

I am all above board with insurance but to be honest, if I stack my car and dont claim I am fairly certain I wont be making that call, I would be very suprosed if anyone on here would do the same unless they are expecting to get payed out, if its an old snotter with a £500 excess and you slide gracefully into a tree in the ice and then decide to scrap it as its only worth £500 why would you tell them, is that insurance fraud ?

What if you decide to smash it up, on purpose, what if you do it on private land ?



I must add, I have never done this !

It's a fine line between what you should report and what you shouldn't.

I don't tell my insurance company about stone chips I get even though I might pay for a bonnet respray myself. Is hitting a stone any different to hitting a bird, deer or lamp post?

I don't tell my insurance company about car park dings even though I might pay to get them repaired myself. Is this any different to someone driving into my door and me paying for the repair myself?

[The Wookie]

To those who've said 'tough little car', the fact that anyone survived that crash is an example of dumb luck, not vehicle safety

[TheMoron]

peterbredde said:

Bell-end

[John D.]

alock said:

J4CKO said:

Robb F said:

J4CKO said:

None of their business if you don't claim and nobody claims against you, they are only interested in making money, who in their right mind is going to say, well I had a massive accident and wrecked the car, I paid for a new one myself, now please charge me a higher premium for the accident you didn't pay for.

Still, he shouldnt have one, let alone a second one, 110 mph with zero experience, cretin.

You'll find it is

I am all above board with insurance but to be honest, if I stack my car and dont claim I am fairly certain I wont be making that call, I would be very suprosed if anyone on here would do the same unless they are expecting to get payed out, if its an old snotter with a £500 excess and you slide gracefully into a tree in the ice and then decide to scrap it as its only worth £500 why would you tell them, is that insurance fraud ?

What if you decide to smash it up, on purpose, what if you do it on private land ?



I must add, I have never done this !

It's a fine line between what you should report and what you shouldn't.

I don't tell my insurance company about stone chips I get even though I might pay for a bonnet respray myself. Is hitting a stone any different to hitting a bird, deer or lamp post?

I don't tell my insurance company about car park dings even though I might pay to get them repaired myself. Is this any different to someone driving into my door and me paying for the repair myself?

[anonymous-user]

superman84 said:

compocon said:

I had a significantly more powerful car at 18 and didnt have any incidents.

Looking back (13 years ago) it seems a little irresponsible but I'm almost certain I don't drive THAT differently these days.


I'm sure the driver of the red clio would have crashed if was a 1.2

Well said. It's a Clio with 182 bhp, I'd barely call it a 'performance car'.

Not really. The 1.2 would never make it to 110mph on a country road unless the country road was straight for about 2 miles. A 182 could get there in well under a mile and this is the point. He might have crashed it, but it wouldn't have been going that fast at the time.

[TITWONK]

IainT said:

TITWONK said:

this site is funny at times although a little embarrassing.

Indeed. Not helped by some of the oh so ammusing user names.

im too scared to use my usual names, the PH detectives may dig something up on me i see your point though.

[Frp']

The Wookie said:

To those who've said 'tough little car', the fact that anyone survived that crash is an example of dumb luck, not vehicle safety

Wrong.

Another example of the strength of the car... both occupants survived.

[compocon]

MSTRBKR said:

superman84 said:

compocon said:

I had a significantly more powerful car at 18 and didnt have any incidents.

Looking back (13 years ago) it seems a little irresponsible but I'm almost certain I don't drive THAT differently these days.


I'm sure the driver of the red clio would have crashed if was a 1.2

Well said. It's a Clio with 182 bhp, I'd barely call it a 'performance car'.

Not really. The 1.2 would never make it to 110mph on a country road unless the country road was straight for about 2 miles. A 182 could get there in well under a mile and this is the point. He might have crashed it, but it wouldn't have been going that fast at the time.

That's not really the point as speed on it's own doesnt cause crashes (eg. cruising on the Autobahn). You need to add something else to the mix like poor judgement, which 'may' be excessive speed for the conditions - something you don't need a massive 182BHP for.

Also, I very much doubt the car crashed at 110mph

[Daniel1]

The guy was young. The guy had a nice car. The guy crashed his car.

Better phone the daily mail because i dont think that has ever happened before. I blame the coalition.

[.R2D2]

John D. said:

.R2D2 said:

What's more funny is people say its a powerful car and a great car

In comparison to the mighty Vectra SRi? Phwoar!

Thats not up to date, but I don't go round saying a Vectra is almighty and wonderful. Tool!

[The Wookie]

Frp' said:

The Wookie said:

To those who've said 'tough little car', the fact that anyone survived that crash is an example of dumb luck, not vehicle safety

Wrong.

Another example of the strength of the car... both occupants survived.

The structure's totally collapsed, the seats have collapsed, the floor pans are obviously bent, how does that image show me that the car's structural integrity and safety have saved the occupants?

[anonymous-user]

Frp' said:

The Wookie said:

To those who've said 'tough little car', the fact that anyone survived that crash is an example of dumb luck, not vehicle safety

Wrong.

Another example of the strength of the car... both occupants survived.

Erm...how does that demonstrate the 'strength' of the car? It's folded up like an accordian

[OMNIO]

Symbolica said:

Frp' said:

The Wookie said:

To those who've said 'tough little car', the fact that anyone survived that crash is an example of dumb luck, not vehicle safety

Wrong.

Another example of the strength of the car... both occupants survived.

Erm...how does that demonstrate the 'strength' of the car? It's folded up like an accordian

Woooosh parrot?

[RobCrezz]

Lots of comments of "I wouldn't let my kids have a car like this 18". Come on, its hardly a rocket ship. Ok he crashed it, I've seen plenty of smaller engined hatches crashed too.

An 18 year old having a TVR could be a bit crazy, but a 2.0 clio? As long as hes not a complete moron it should be ok, just because one goon crashed it shouldn't mean any 18 shouldn't have a hot hatch.

[rallycross]

RobCrezz said:

Lots of comments of "I wouldn't let my kids have a car like this 18". Come on, its hardly a rocket ship. Ok he crashed it, I've seen plenty of smaller engined hatches crashed too.

An 18 year old having a TVR could be a bit crazy, but a 2.0 clio? As long as hes not a complete moron it should be ok, just because one goon crashed it shouldn't mean any 18 shouldn't have a hot hatch.

I cant agree with that at all.
Most young males in their first car(s) will be liable to crash, the quicker the car the sooner and harder they will crash. Ok some will be sensible but giving an 18 yr old kid a 182 as a first car is just asking for an accident.

[Mr Trophy]

I think I am going to cry...

[Mr Trophy]

rallycross said:

RobCrezz said:

Lots of comments of "I wouldn't let my kids have a car like this 18". Come on, its hardly a rocket ship. Ok he crashed it, I've seen plenty of smaller engined hatches crashed too.

An 18 year old having a TVR could be a bit crazy, but a 2.0 clio? As long as hes not a complete moron it should be ok, just because one goon crashed it shouldn't mean any 18 shouldn't have a hot hatch.

I cant agree with that at all.
Most young males in their first car(s) will be liable to crash, the quicker the car the sooner and harder they will crash. Ok some will be sensible but giving an 18 yr old kid a 182 as a first car is just asking for an accident.

Not sure. I got my Clio Trophy at 19 and no crashes, not even a slight one.

[The Wookie]

RobCrezz said:

Lots of comments of "I wouldn't let my kids have a car like this 18". Come on, its hardly a rocket ship. Ok he crashed it, I've seen plenty of smaller engined hatches crashed too.

An 18 year old having a TVR could be a bit crazy, but a 2.0 clio? As long as hes not a complete moron it should be ok, just because one goon crashed it shouldn't mean any 18 shouldn't have a hot hatch.

I disagree with the notion of 'if you've had a car bought for your you're a reckless idiot' and 'young people shouldn't drive fast cars', but I can't really agree with that, hot hatches are probably the worst combination of speed and lack of intimidation factor that you can get for an inexperienced driver, ignoring any passive safety aspects.

Something like a TVR is more likely to inpire respect from an inexperienced driver by scaring them quite early on at low speed, whereas they're unlikely to end up sideways in a hot hatch until they're heading straight for the edge of the road having lobbed it into a corner too quickly.

Plus, most of us know how to and enjoy catching an 'adjustable' hatch, but with someone who doesn't know how to catch it, adjustability really means 'the propensity to go very sideways very quickly'

[John D.]

The Wookie said:

RobCrezz said:

Lots of comments of "I wouldn't let my kids have a car like this 18". Come on, its hardly a rocket ship. Ok he crashed it, I've seen plenty of smaller engined hatches crashed too.

An 18 year old having a TVR could be a bit crazy, but a 2.0 clio? As long as hes not a complete moron it should be ok, just because one goon crashed it shouldn't mean any 18 shouldn't have a hot hatch.

I disagree with the notion of 'if you've had a car bought for your you're a reckless idiot' and 'young people shouldn't drive fast cars', but I can't really agree with that, hot hatches are probably the worst combination of speed and lack of intimidation factor that you can get for an inexperienced driver, ignoring any passive safety aspects.

Something like a TVR is more likely to inpire respect from an inexperienced driver by scaring them quite early on at low speed, whereas they're unlikely to end up sideways in a hot hatch until they're heading straight for the edge of the road having lobbed it into a corner too quickly.

Plus, most of us know how to and enjoy catching an 'adjustable' hatch, but with someone who doesn't know how to catch it, adjustability really means 'the propensity to go very sideways very quickly'

Exactly

Insurance is sky high on one of these for an under 25 male for good reason.