Why did Golf go up in flames ?

Why did Golf go up in flames ?

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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GarryA said:
Service light came on for a different reason? Like highlighting stty oil which then led to the fire?
Don't be daft.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on.
That sounds a little extreme, even for the most ignorant wink

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Whatever it was you'll probably never know, it'll be too wiped put to find out easily so no one will bother.

Doubt you'd have been able to spot anything with a quick check over, whatever caused it didn't go until 100miles later.

Everyone was fine which is the main thing.

CraigyMc

16,473 posts

237 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on.
That sounds a little extreme, even for the most ignorant wink
Give that it's a service indicator rather than a your car is about to spontaneously combust indicator, I'm with 300 on this one.

paulmurr

4,203 posts

213 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on.
What happens if you're more than 5 minutes away from the garage when the indicator light comes on?

Edited by paulmurr on Friday 24th December 10:38

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Months pension its a electrical fault, fluid leakage he would almost certainly smelt it. Wire chaffed through and hey presto - barbi time. Main thing is the family are all safe.

durbster

10,293 posts

223 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on. I'm amazed he even asked. 100% his problem for being a skinflint risk taker.
hehe I hope the garage that does your servicing isn't more than five minutes away then!

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Doubt it was caused by an air con problem - VW air con (and in most modern cars) runs at 5% even when it's turned off so that it doesn't seize up - there is no need to use turn it on now and again like you had to do in old cars. IIRC it's in the manual.

I'd go for a fk-up the last time it was serviced - my VWs have come out of VW garages in worse condition than they've gone in on a number of occasions!

lescombes

968 posts

211 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Electrical issue somewhere, something has shorted out.....hsppens in 90%+ of vehicle fires.... VW Fox tapped a Mondeo a few weeks ago at so lights....no signs of damage at all, they were doing the Insurance details swap.....and the Fox just combusts....game over....result was the bump disloged a wire which chaffed and shorted = fire...

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on. I'm amazed he even asked. 100% his problem for being a skinflint risk taker.
The service department must love you low loader your car in because the service indicator light is on, the one most people would use as a reminder that a service needs booking, the urgency of which depends on funds, and proposed usage.
Probably just a freak occurance or the first event that leads to the recall, my parents had a '94 Diesel C-class the one that had a recall for a fault that causes a fire at the rear end, they got the recall paperwork several months after it burnt out on a French Autoroute.
In this weather it could be an overheat a burst pipe in the engine, UK cars aren't expected to be subjected to extremely low temperatures so the oil may be thicker, the coolant starting to freeze etc.

-Z-

6,055 posts

207 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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GarryA said:
-Z- said:
I'll go for:

a) Oil cap not being replaced properly/at all

b) If the car doesn't get driven much and was still covered in snow, then the melting snow got somewhere interesting and caused an electrical fire.
Go on then, please explain the process by which that would happen.

And tonker, this is the kind of crap you're going to get.
Err, oil cap off, oil comes out, lands on exhaust manifold, catches fire. Quite simple. Or the other alternative, water in electrics from compacted snow being pushed somewhere, especially taking into account that he opened the bonnet before driving.

Better than blaming tonker for causing oil to spontaneously catch fire while still in the engine as a result of the car being due a service. Jesus, if that were a possibility then:

a) you'd hear about it all the time with the amount of unserviced beaters on Britains roads

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b) the service light wouldn't be just a light, it would immobilise the car saving you and your family from fiery death!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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-Z said:
Err, oil cap off, oil comes out, lands on exhaust manifold, catches fire. Quite simple. Or the other alternative, water in electrics from compacted snow being pushed somewhere, especially taking into account that he opened the bonnet before driving.
Most exhaust manilfolds have a nice little heat shield over them

as to the electrics water is unlikely to get in as the stuff under the bonnet is all sealed

-Z-

6,055 posts

207 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
-Z said:
Err, oil cap off, oil comes out, lands on exhaust manifold, catches fire. Quite simple. Or the other alternative, water in electrics from compacted snow being pushed somewhere, especially taking into account that he opened the bonnet before driving.
Most exhaust manilfolds have a nice little heat shield over them

as to the electrics water is unlikely to get in as the stuff under the bonnet is all sealed
Getting side tracked but the heat shield is definitely not Water/oil tight, it's to protect fingers from accidental contact with hot surfaces.

Anyway, the original point was that oil thats slightly past its change date is not going to spontaneously catch fire and it is numpty-ish to suggest so.

paddyhasneeds

51,603 posts

211 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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It's a 2006 Golf.

I'd have thought you'd have to be pretty fking negligent as an owner to be driving it in a state where it can catch fire and a year without a service sounds like nothing tbh.

Not helpful I know, but it just sounds very odd.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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If not changing your oil immediately on the service interval caused spontaneous combustion of the car then I would be looking out my window on a year old burnt out wreak, I'm not so I am assuming the oil may be in stty condition but it hasn't burst into flames.

Tonker checking if they have missed a recall now is irrelevant, but keep an eye out now incase this is one of the trigger issues for a recall, as I said earlier my parent's car was one of the early incidents that lead to the recall.

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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paulmurr said:
angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on.
What happens if you're more than 5 minutes away from the garage when the indicator light comes on?

Edited by paulmurr on Friday 24th December 10:38
run for the hills, its going to explode and polar bears will die too!

FFS its a ROUTINE service indicator, its telling you that either enough time has elapsed between services or the oil quality is deemed to be at a point where it should ( not must) be changed for the longevity of the engine.

It does not mean that your car is going to self destruct, the two instances in question will not be related.

My money is on electrical, possibly cooling fan failure making the loom burn out (hence lots of acrid smoke?) then the plastic components of the engine bay becoming involved then sufficient heat to burn through fuel lines, brake resevoir etc.

If the cap was off then he would have had oil all over the windscreen and A LOT of smoke from about 15 minutes in.

crofty1984

15,895 posts

205 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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durbster said:
angusc43 said:
I wouldn't drive 5 minutes with the service indicator on. I'm amazed he even asked. 100% his problem for being a skinflint risk taker.
hehe I hope the garage that does your servicing isn't more than five minutes away then!
It can happen. On certain BMWs (and I think Volkswagens) if the service indicator light comes on and you ignore it for about 100 miles, then douse the interior with a jerrycan's worth of petrol, and throw in a lit match it can lead to fire.

Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

216 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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GarryA said:
Service light came on for a different reason? Like highlighting stty oil which then led to the fire?
rofl



va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Not sure what caused it.... but I was thinking of buying a 56 1.6 fsi golf and this thread has put me right of!

GarryA

4,700 posts

165 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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Vidal Baboon said:
GarryA said:
Service light came on for a different reason? Like highlighting stty oil which then led to the fire?
rofl
As in leaking or too thin and getting were it shouldn't. furiousbiggrin